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Minion   Brasil. Jan 30 2008 14:53. Posts 2112

No history with Jorgo V, he was limping, calling way too much pre, like 21/7/1 style.
After Daut called the 3bet i put him on 66-JJ.
Call or fold?

Submitted by : Minion

POKERSTARS GAME #14935168776: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($5/$10) - 2008/01/30 - 13:34:14 (ET)
Table 'Rotanev' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: lucky888 ($217 in chips)
Seat 2: Jorgo V ($792.95 in chips)
Seat 3: Daut44 ($1350.90 in chips)
Seat 4: mtg38skopok2 ($157 in chips)
Seat 5: Virtucon ($1119 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($1335.25 in chips)
Seat 7: ackbleh ($1170 in chips)
Seat 8: longdong1972 ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 9: Blazed187 ($970 in chips)
ackbleh: posts small blind $5
longdong1972: posts big blind $10

Holecards
Dealt to Hero AhAd
Blazed187: folds
lucky888: folds
lucky888 leaves the table
Jorgo V: calls $10
Daut44: raises $30 to $40
mtg38skopok2: folds
Virtucon: folds
sachv joins the table at seat #1
Hero : raises $120 to $160
ackbleh: folds
longdong1972: folds
Jorgo V: calls $150
Daut44: calls $120

Flop (Pot : $495.00)

   8h7c3h
Jorgo V: checks
Daut44: checks
Hero : bets $310
Jorgo V: raises $322.95 to $632.95 and is all-in
Daut44: raises $557.95 to $1190.90 and is all-in



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 Last edit: 30/01/2008 14:53

DooMeR   United States. Jan 30 2008 14:59. Posts 8562

dauts not setmineing so call. how is this a question imo?

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DooMeR   United States. Jan 30 2008 15:00. Posts 8562

slam dunk shipit call

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DooMeR   United States. Jan 30 2008 15:00. Posts 8562

atleast i dont think so. he shouldn't be =.=

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Minion   Brasil. Jan 30 2008 15:07. Posts 2112

i think he could be set mining after the limper called my 3 bet
what do u think he got here?

 Last edit: 30/01/2008 15:10

DooMeR   United States. Jan 30 2008 15:08. Posts 8562

"After Daut called the 3bet i put him on 66-JJ."

i dont get it.... if hes calling 66 why not 22-55? he is also never 4betting QQ here i dont think. you're too deep, therefore i dont think KK or AA that often either because he will definitely want to balance that out imo. also i disagree i think his calling range is fairly tight and i think 22-88 he folds most likely, they are all relatively the exact same hand

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nolan   Ireland. Jan 30 2008 15:09. Posts 6205

wow this is insane sick. and yeah, with the other caller a setmine isn't that out of the Q, especially with the noob calling.

this is like mega shitballs close imo. maybe neutral to slight - EV, with the $ in the pot I suppose it can't be a fold as Jorgo can probably play TT like this and Daut can certainly be "slowplaying" KK or QQ to iso the fish perhaps.

fwiw if it was me not daut id fold cause it means ill hit runner runner

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DooMeR   United States. Jan 30 2008 15:10. Posts 8562

if he has a set then power to him. but he can have JJ-AA here just as likely

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Minion   Brasil. Jan 30 2008 15:12. Posts 2112


  On January 30 2008 14:09 nolan wrote:
fwiw if it was me not daut id fold cause it means ill hit runner runner


rofl
so true T_T


Minion   Brasil. Jan 30 2008 15:13. Posts 2112


  On January 30 2008 14:10 DooMeR wrote:
if he has a set then power to him. but he can have JJ-AA here just as likely


i think he would 4 bet AA/KK here so he could go for a hu pot or take it pre


DooMeR   United States. Jan 30 2008 15:21. Posts 8562


  On January 30 2008 14:13 Minion wrote:
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i think he would 4 bet AA/KK here so he could go for a hu pot or take it pre


doesn't make sense to me because ur never getting it in with AK or QQ and neither is the shorty with all that action (usually) so its a bad read imo and a spew in a way as he is not maximizing EV and not protecting his other ranges. if it was 100bbs then thats a different story as he would also do it with AK cuz ur spot looks like a squeeze sometimes, however its too deep so hes not gonna be 4betting anything imo

I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance, by running away from the scene of an accident.Last edit: 30/01/2008 15:23

SeanBam   . Jan 30 2008 15:52. Posts 953

9h10h


Robinson47   United Kingdom. Jan 30 2008 16:42. Posts 992

id guess 7 8 diamonds, id still call though to hit running hearts. Wouldnt he do the same with jacks or queens?
set is very likely though Folding is probably the best thing to do, but im a donk calling station so i couldnt resist

 Last edit: 30/01/2008 16:45

DooMeR   United States. Jan 30 2008 17:14. Posts 8562

its impossible to fold here shoveeeeeee u got so much overlay and the donk can have many hands here imo

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YoMeR   United States. Jan 30 2008 17:35. Posts 12438

Hero : raises $120 to $160

i don't think there is any more folding after this action 99.9 percent of the time.

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NMcNasty    United States. Jan 30 2008 19:51. Posts 2041

Does Daut respect your game? I really don't think I see him ever having QQ or JJ here, and probably not KK.

Its probably a fold on paper, but I don't make big folds like this in the heat of things anymore.


twotimesopt   United States. Jan 30 2008 20:07. Posts 2393

well i don't know about this range, but if this is accurate it's a snap call

Board: 8h 7c 3h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 43.604% 41.22% 02.39% 8161 472.50 { AdAh }
Hand 1: 56.396% 54.01% 02.39% 10694 472.50 { KK+, 88-77, 33, Th9h, 87s, 6h5h }


didn't know if i should include QQ/JJ here, otherwise i think this looks good

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Rekrul   United States. Jan 30 2008 20:34. Posts 3338

lol at the thought of pokerstoving aa on this board

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twotimesopt   United States. Jan 30 2008 20:43. Posts 2393


  On January 30 2008 19:34 Rekrul wrote:
lol at the thought of pokerstoving aa on this board


b/c EV calculations clearly do not apply

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Rekrul   United States. Jan 30 2008 20:51. Posts 3338

to not know that this is a snap call even against the tightest of ranges makes someone completely ignorant of all poker common sense

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