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player999   Brasil. Apr 19 2010 14:01. Posts 7978

14k pf and he shoves 140k

why are you guys even discussing, if it were a tourney you wouldnt
same math applies you know?

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

Oskar_123   Sweden. Apr 19 2010 14:10. Posts 401


  On April 19 2010 12:34 Stroggos wrote:
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13.8k in the pot preflop and he open shoves 150k. lets say people call with AK, AA, KK, QQ. AQs is winning 28% of time vs that range. So he needs to be called 1 every 11 times or less with that calling range to be profitable.

It's 7 handed and the calling range is 2% of all hand combinations, hes got to get through 66people for this to be profitable.
66x2%=132. 132/100=.76 Needs to be 1 or higher for this to be profitable. ( i think hes losing 37k every time he open shoves this?)

Not sure if this is fail maths or not but that's how i see the hand.
not really sure what you're doing with the 66x2 and stuff but if he's only getting called by 2,6% of hands then he's going to win the money in the pot .974^6=85,3% of the time. then having 28% equity when called means he's losing 62k each time he gets called. ev(shove) = .853*13.8 - .147 * 62 = 2,7k


Jelle   Belgium. Apr 19 2010 16:12. Posts 3476

lol no one would throw away JJ against that shove

and I agree with the man who posted that people would all say its stnd if it was tourney shove

GroT 

TheHuHu3   United States. Apr 19 2010 16:22. Posts 5544

Phil's 3-bet was insanely small. Sorry but that was a terrible re-raise size.

TheHuHu4 coming soon :) 

zulu_nation8   United States. Apr 19 2010 17:43. Posts 1929

I really wanted Galfond to ship it with the Q7 oh well


Stroggos   New Zealand. Apr 19 2010 18:03. Posts 1117

shipping a flush draw 250bb deep wouldn't be the best play on the flop against a loose passive players raise.

 Last edit: 19/04/2010 18:03

milkman   United States. Apr 19 2010 18:44. Posts 5719


  On April 19 2010 02:44 WastedGate wrote:
rofl @ doyles shove. i was sure he'd just raise it big. how fucked up on coke is mikey btw? "i play bad when im tired"...yeah when that coke wears off you prolly dont feel all the good hahaha.



dude its not drugs, hes like pretty much socially retarded.. hes on like a cocktail of different medications fucking with his head trying to help him be able to focus and stay calm n shit.. hes basically just mentally falling apart, u can tell just by some of the clips in the last few shows, i cant imagine all the shit he says that they edit out.

Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally. 

Stim_Abuser   United States. Apr 19 2010 18:46. Posts 7499


  On April 19 2010 16:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I really wanted Galfond to ship it with the Q7 oh well



woulda been a terrible play. his call was pretty bad too afaik. but galfond > me x1000 so meh.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

kaisr   Canada. Apr 19 2010 18:50. Posts 1058




Twisted    Netherlands. Apr 19 2010 19:06. Posts 10422


  On April 19 2010 17:46 Stim_Abuser wrote:
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woulda been a terrible play. his call was pretty bad too afaik. but galfond > me x1000 so meh.


It was pretty borderline but not that bad. He was getting decent odds and enough implied odds to make the call and it looked like Eli wasn't going anywhere.


Tien   Canada. Apr 19 2010 22:32. Posts 1605

Eli seems like a solid player.


Makes the right calls. Doesn't like to fold at all, but doesn't make donkey calls either. You could see Durrrr thinking about bluffing him out, but doesn't because of Eli's reputation.

I liked it when he said "I don't have that fold in me" when commenting on Negreanu's river flush fold against Benyamine.

Only one life to live 

starfritz   Belgium. Apr 20 2010 03:44. Posts 124

episode 10 megaupload fast download link hf

thinking of getting a coach. how much will they charge just to keep repeating the words, wtf why do u think he is bluffing. since i swear this will up my winrate 5x 

Baalim   Mexico. Apr 20 2010 04:13. Posts 34305

56s would be better than AQs and we all know that doyle is not shoving 56s.


About Galfonds call it was totally fine, shoving is awful, Eli is a passive stationary donkey that overcalled flop and CR an ace high flop, thats obvious nuts and Galdon has probably his entire stack of implied odds, plus theres a chance Eli might check some turns

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

player999   Brasil. Apr 21 2010 01:58. Posts 7978


  On April 20 2010 03:13 Baal wrote:
56s would be better than AQs and we all know that doyle is not shoving 56s.



what, how?

he has 20bb, HOWS THAT NOT A SHOVE??

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

Baalim   Mexico. Apr 21 2010 02:17. Posts 34305


  On April 21 2010 00:58 player999 wrote:
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what, how?

he has 20bb, HOWS THAT NOT A SHOVE??


somebody said that it was 28bb deep but it seems it isnt, well then its not a bad shove but against a calling range of QQ+ suited connectors perform equally as good as AQs and PP have even better equity

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

Highcard   Canada. Apr 21 2010 02:39. Posts 5428

well yes but card removal with AQ is nice feeling

I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time 

dogmeat   Czech Republic. Apr 21 2010 04:02. Posts 6374

card removal is such a big bs -__-

ban baal 

uiCk   Canada. Apr 26 2010 01:37. Posts 3521

anyone got links for ep 11? seems the usuals had a day off or something..



edit: upon closer inspection, it seems doing oxy and trying to record a show is not a good thing

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike TysonLast edit: 26/04/2010 01:45

Spicy   United States. Apr 26 2010 02:15. Posts 1027

It's up on pokerbay now


Carthac   United States. Apr 26 2010 02:58. Posts 1343

After watching that episode, I really want Mike Matusow to get into another drug addiction and bust again

"That's how you play poker boys"............

Complete idiot. Guy has no respect


 
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