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blackjacki2   United States. Mar 12 2018 07:29. Posts 2094

Ro24 Group A

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PuertoRican   United States. Mar 12 2018 08:13. Posts 10942

Nick got rid of his gray hair for this show.

Rekrul is a newb 

FrinkX   United States. Mar 13 2018 14:17. Posts 7412

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bitch on a pension suck my dong 

alejandicto   . Mar 13 2018 16:46. Posts 724

Ro 24 Group B



http://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Afreeca_Starleague_Season_5

The Prize for the champion is 27K USD this season and last season was 50K for the first place :O

 Last edit: 21/03/2018 19:27

blackjacki2   United States. Mar 19 2018 06:37. Posts 2094

Afreeca hasn't uploaded group C to their youtube page but here is a link to afreeca VOD

http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/31766795


HungarianGOD   . Mar 19 2018 22:34. Posts 415

Island map this season? wow

Not sure how I feel about making the gas inaccessible to terran and protoss though. I understand something is necessary but that feels kind of lame, like changing unit properties or something

 Last edit: 20/03/2018 06:07

Ryan Neilly   United States. Mar 20 2018 06:57. Posts 1224

they gotta keep it as fresh as possible imo

that first ZvT had a lot of great action, loved it


Ryan Neilly   United States. Mar 20 2018 07:02. Posts 1224

love when they talk about all the past island maps.....

Dire straights and ummm none else are memorable


blackjacki2   United States. Mar 20 2018 20:06. Posts 2094

Group D


WhyYouKickMyDog   United States. Mar 20 2018 22:59. Posts 1607

wow, some really cool games from group D


PuertoRican   United States. Mar 21 2018 07:08. Posts 10942

Mong looks like a bodyguard for the other three guys.

Rekrul is a newb 

spets1   Australia. Mar 21 2018 18:56. Posts 2109

Lets go BW! we need some new players to smash the veterans.
Surprised Wham isnt in this thread

hola 

alejandicto   . Mar 21 2018 19:12. Posts 724

Jaedong is playing on group F :O I thought he retired last season


Daut    United States. Mar 22 2018 21:32. Posts 8830

Cool games thus far, new maps always bring out creative cheese until defenses against every attack vector are chunked together in a working adaptive strategy for each race.

Random question for people who kept up with SC more over the years than I did: tasteless and artosis often talk about the 4 best players ever and name Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, and Stork. Why stork? Not just why is he listed alongside the other 3 players who were clearly at the top, but also why is he listed above the other candidates like savior, iloveoov, fantasy, jangbi, or guys like nada who were dominant for long periods of time? An analogy I would use is tennis: instead of saying Roger, Novak, Rafa are the three best ever, someone says the four best ever are Roger, Novak, Rafa, and Murray, and simultaneously places Murray alongside three players he shouldn't be named with and above players like Sampras, Borg, Lendl, and McEnroe which is unclear.

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, DautLast edit: 22/03/2018 21:36

HungarianGOD   . Mar 23 2018 11:42. Posts 415

I was curious about that myself. I would have thought Nada would have been the logical 4th choice.
I'm pretty certain savior would be have been solidly there except he is unmentionable after being so instrumental in the match-fixing scandal.


Technics   Bulgaria. Mar 23 2018 11:59. Posts 541

EchoOfThunder & HungarianGOD

Liquipedia's take on TaekBangLeeSsang which seems accurate to me. Maybe they refer to them more often because of the absolute level of skill they reached.

Enjoy the gameLast edit: 23/03/2018 12:05

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Mar 23 2018 15:26. Posts 8168

I can tell you why they do that with tennis, and it's probably equivalent here in BW, they say Murray is in the big four cause he smashed the other 3 in 1-2 seasons. People ignore previous legends cause tennis is virtually a different game compared to when Sampras played. Skillwise its very likely that Murray is indeed top4 most skilled ones ever, achievements-wise that's a whole different topic.

Generally, though people just prefer to focus on the present and project that into different aspects. It's the same with every sport, its the current players that are "the best ever" etc...


blackjacki2   United States. Mar 23 2018 19:56. Posts 2094


  On March 22 2018 20:32 Daut wrote:
Cool games thus far, new maps always bring out creative cheese until defenses against every attack vector are chunked together in a working adaptive strategy for each race.

Random question for people who kept up with SC more over the years than I did: tasteless and artosis often talk about the 4 best players ever and name Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, and Stork. Why stork? Not just why is he listed alongside the other 3 players who were clearly at the top, but also why is he listed above the other candidates like savior, iloveoov, fantasy, jangbi, or guys like nada who were dominant for long periods of time? An analogy I would use is tennis: instead of saying Roger, Novak, Rafa are the three best ever, someone says the four best ever are Roger, Novak, Rafa, and Murray, and simultaneously places Murray alongside three players he shouldn't be named with and above players like Sampras, Borg, Lendl, and McEnroe which is unclear.



I don't know why they rank stork so highly either and I think the tennis analogy is a good one.


Daut    United States. Mar 24 2018 01:23. Posts 8830

It makes sense from the perspective that he had a long period where he was mostly among the top 5 (notably while the other 3 best ever were dominant) and briefly reached #1 a few times. But if you go by the extended dominance metric then savior, iloveoov, and nada are all better all time greats. And if you go by peak skill level metric, then I think Fantasy is better as he had a higher peak ELO (so did savior, but during an easier time period) and reached #1 at a later point in history while games were still very difficult and was higher ranked from 2010-2012. Fantasy was also 9-13 vs flash and had a winning record vs jangbi.

I'm ok deferring to people who watched actively while it was happening and have thought about this more and giving stork the tiebreaker as he was amongst the top 5 during the hardest era of starcraft for 4-5 years.

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, DautLast edit: 24/03/2018 01:26

FrinkX   United States. Mar 24 2018 16:18. Posts 7412

i was 100% sure the 4th greatest player he was going to say was Boxer

<-- stopped following the scene in 2004 lolol

bitch on a pension suck my dong 

 
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