ASL Season 5 - Page 3

On March 28 2018 19:55 Liquid`Drone wrote: going by win rates in sponsored matches I think sparkle is more p >> z than any other. It was like 81% protoss win for a while at least. It not looking like it during asl matches so far is because jaedong played way, way better than mind (also kinda lucked out getting the cybernetics core right before +2 air attack was done - which is a game deciding move in air wars) and because of a risky allin barely working. Imo it should be strongly z >> t strongly p >> z and slightly p > t. that said they're not playing sparkle in the ro16. They're bringing it back for ro8 - but ro16 is gonna be transistor, third world and gladiator. I think I saw somewhere that it was transistor first then third world then gladiator - but I can't find whatever place that was, so I can't confirm it. Gladiator last for sure though. From some small amount of stream watching, third world seems really difficult for terran, and good for sair reaver pvz.

Artosis: Shout out to Liquid Drone who used to go ensnare on Dire Straits!
*1 group later*
.....OH SHIT JAEDONG GOES ENSNARE ON SPARKLE

queens are a must have on island zvp, both ensnare and parasite. I've been saying this for like 17 years :D

I'm pretty stocked about being able to watch what is practically a ~20 year old game that I grew up with, on my big ass TV with HD quality in 2018... 15 year old me would be so jealous... :D, I remember waking up at like 5 AM just to catch some crappy 240p stream when NaDa was crushing fools, and being happy if the stream did not die every 2 minutes or so.

I always thought that I'd watch Brood War no matter how old I got, as long as there was quality content of it out there, and sure enough, here I am, still excited about those "alien thingies and the constantly screaming guys"!

Here's to another 20

On March 29 2018 10:09 Liquid`Drone wrote: queens are a must have on island zvp, both ensnare and parasite. I've been saying this for like 17 years :D

Parasite is so sick I'm honestly surprised people dont kill parsisted units, who gives a shit about 1 Corsairs, having info on where they are flying real-time is far more valuable.


btw I like Larva, his cocky character feels like fresh air in a culture where extreme politeness is the norm

people who kill off their parasited units really invite you to build 5 queens and parasite shit all the time. There's no great counter for p tbh, but there are two responses that are less bad than keeping them with your army or killing them ; either use them for scouting, with sairs you'll at least often get z to use two scourge on them then - in which case you only lose 25 gas from the trade, or if he's parasiting a lot, stick them in an unimportant region of your base and then bring those units to whatever big engagement requires all your muscle.

also if he parasites ground units like archons or templars, you can stick them inside shuttles! (but generally z should parasite air units anyway cuz that's more important)

it must be better to build a few medics + upgrade the spell i cant remember the name of to take it away than to sacrifice all parasited units for Terran

obviously getting restore is good for terran. people generally just store away units until they research it when a unit of theirs gets parasited. generally don't really need more than 1 medic to handle parasites either.

Ro16 Group A

youtube video is lagging/skipping. Here's the afreeca link:

http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/32158117

On March 30 2018 23:43 Baalim wrote: btw I like Larva, his cocky character feels like fresh air in a culture where extreme politeness is the norm

Yeah, I miss Firebathero for that. Thats good for esports, a little show and interesting players are going to make it more popular.

You can follow results and groups here btw

http://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Afreeca_Starleague_Season_5

they really need to improve their recording, the video is stuttering so much especially the last game almost tilted me

On April 02 2018 18:07 Spitfiree wrote: they really need to improve their recording, the video is stuttering so much especially the last game almost tilted me

They also need to bring Tastosis back for group B. The color commentator was horrendous -- we get it, you play starcraft2 and know nothing about starcraft 1 and have no business being in the booth. The main commentator did an ok job of carrying both of them, but it's not the same as the varsity crew.

group B has had two very solid games so far. absolutely amazing reaver shuttle control in game 2.

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Ro16 Group B

http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/32213006

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Shout out to Artosis. I love his casting. The way he gasps any time a shuttle might be picked off is hilarious. You can tell how much he loves this game.

On March 26 2018 01:50 Daut wrote: Show nested quote + On March 26 2018 01:42 blackjacki2 wrote: It seems like this 2-hatch fast-lair muta rushing zerg might be the new meta in ZvT. When Flash started doing the 1/1/1 build this is what I thought zergs should have done to counter it. Zerg's economy takes a hit because they're only mining minerals with a couple of drones at their natural as they use all of the resources to pump out as many mutas as early as they can, but a lot of times they can do devastating damage to the Terran. A lot of times they can win the game outright. I love it. Previously ZvT was just 15 straight minutes of Zergs trying to not die to 5-rax until they could secure a 3rd, get defilers, and maybe win a hard fought end-game. I felt so bad for Zergs. It definitely seems like the best build on Transistor. I don't think it's as strong on a map as big as Gladiator or maps without large spaces behind both mineral patches to harass, but it puts a lot of pressure on Terran to both defend against speedlings early and to get 8+ turrets to defend main+natural by time mutas get there. But that said, if Terran can stabilize and get 4 rax marine/medic going quickly, zerg's economy might be shit rendering it somewhat of an all in. But if you drone a little harder early and parlay it into a 3-4 hatch ling/lurker while expanding after ~12 mutas, you can make it work anywhere.

2 hatch muta is good on transistor because the bases are so close and there is so much wide open space in the bases

On March 27 2018 17:32 Daut wrote: Flash picks Mind for his group lol, poor Terran

this was strategic to keep protoss out of their group. they clearly went over it beforehand. Mind picks a zerg and then no matter who that zerg picks for the 4th spot Flash can use his switch power to bring another zerg into their group. No matter what group 1 ends in T T Z Z when flash picks mind.

On March 28 2018 02:13 lucky331 wrote: jaedong is the underdog against larva? how did that happen?

Lol Larva is a top5 player now, likely top3

macro wizard goes to the next round
micro wizard goes to the next round