UFC 205: Alvarez vs. McGregor - Page 6

On November 02 2016 11:36 northsails wrote: LOL. Another great analysis. So much gold in here. Keep them coming.

Deleted my last post which was my typical response to aggression but I decided to take the high road this time.


If you disagree with what I said feel free to refute it, but dont be an asshole about it.

On November 03 2016 02:45 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2016 11:36 northsails wrote: LOL. Another great analysis. So much gold in here. Keep them coming. Deleted my last post which was my typical response to aggression but I decided to take the high road this time. If you disagree with what I said feel free to refute it, but dont be an asshole about it.

wow first time ever?


Already missing the old Baal :D

PS changes people you know :/

On November 03 2016 02:45 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2016 11:36 northsails wrote: LOL. Another great analysis. So much gold in here. Keep them coming. Deleted my last post which was my typical response to aggression but I decided to take the high road this time. If you disagree with what I said feel free to refute it, but dont be an asshole about it.

That is fair. Sorry for being an asshole, but you are posting some hilarious nonsense. Romero is probably the fastest middleweight in the division and yes athleticism converts into speed. Not saying his striking is really refined or any good, but to say that he is slow is embarrassing. You just need to look his last few fights, when he fought Tim Kennedy it looked that they operated in different speed and Kennedy biggest issue in this fight was dealing with that. Against Machida who is a very fast middleweight himself, Romero was faster in some exchanges and beating him to the punch.

Don't see the point arguing with you or refuting your claims, because it feels like I'll be talking to the wall . Just on the last page Stim_Abuser is giving you some explanation on Romero weird movement and striking and your response is bringing in some comical example with Keith Jardine.
So just because Jardine was doing weird stuff and was not fast, it also means that Romero is slow as well. What is the connection between the two things and wtf are you talking about?

Romero flaws have already been exposed multiple times. He has bad cardio, technically he is not very good and has bad striking defense. Weidman will probably beat him up, but if anything is certain it that he is not slow.

On November 03 2016 14:20 northsails wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2016 02:45 Baalim wrote:   On November 02 2016 11:36 northsails wrote: LOL. Another great analysis. So much gold in here. Keep them coming. Deleted my last post which was my typical response to aggression but I decided to take the high road this time. If you disagree with what I said feel free to refute it, but dont be an asshole about it. That is fair. Sorry for being an asshole, but you are posting some hilarious nonsense. Romero is probably the fastest middleweight in the division and yes athleticism converts into speed. Not saying his striking is really refined or any good, but to say that he is slow is embarrassing. You just need to look his last few fights, when he fought Tim Kennedy it looked that they operated in different speed and Kennedy biggest issue in this fight was dealing with that. Against Machida who is a very fast middleweight himself, Romero was faster in some exchanges and beating him to the punch. Don't see the point arguing with you or refuting your claims, because it feels like I'll be talking to the wall . Just on the last page Stim_Abuser is giving you some explanation on Romero weird movement and striking and your response is bringing in some comical example with Keith Jardine. So just because Jardine was doing weird stuff and was not fast, it also means that Romero is slow as well. What is the connection between the two things and wtf are you talking about? Romero flaws have already been exposed multiple times. He has bad cardio, technically he is not very good and has bad striking defense. Weidman will probably beat him up, but if anything is certain it that he is not slow.

Ill rewatch his fights, I might have made up my mind too soon, but to reiterate what I mean is that speed in striking isnt just moving fast, its mostly about not loading up.

You can have very fast arms but if you pull the jab before throwing it you wont hit anything and to me thats how Romero fights, strong yet telegraphed and long shots with a lot of waste movement, thats probably the reason why he gases early besides his muscle mass.

roidmero is just overhyped. and of course USADA is going to affect his "gifts" just like with everybody else all of a sudden
USADA testing is far superior than olympic testing, he's a beast wrestler but this is high level MMA and Weidman is no clown
Kennedy, also caught on roids almost got him with that "sitting down incident". I would like to see how he fights vs Weidman

nice group of people to train with lol

Random thoughts about Wonderboy vs. Woodley

The fight I keep thinking about most is Wonderboy vs. Woodley.

I expected Woodley's cardio to be new and improved for his last fight against Lawler, and he ended up finishing him fast, so it was never tested.

Woodley also basically left team ATT in Florida for his last fight and trained at Roufusport with Duke Roufus/Pettis brothers/etc. and brought his main coach with him from ATT. Although, Woodley owns an ATT gym somewhere (I think Atlanta), and he never officially left ATT in Florida cuz he will always be a part of the family since he owns one of their gyms.

This won't be like Wonderboy vs. Hendricks. Woodley won't do the same shit. Woodley is wayyyyy faster, stronger, closes the distance much faster, and hits much harder than Johny Hendricks. Woodley's explosiveness is also better than Hendricks', which means he'll present different take downs to Wonderboy.

We also don't know how good Wonderboy's cardio is against someone who can control him against the cage and on the ground. He needs a lot of space to kick, and his punches aren't super technical and he lacks the pop in his hands for 1-punch KOs.

Another big factor is confidence. Both guys are very confident, but Woodley is in the zone right now, and he's mentally superior and is willing to take the fight wherever to win. Wonderboy can only hope to avoid the TD and not get KO`ed.

Since Wonderboy is mostly a kicker, and Tyron has a stance that allows him to move away and move in real fast and has the speed in his feet and hands and power, I think this will end up being a bad MU for Wonderboy.

Woodley vs McDonald... Remember?

On November 07 2016 04:22 jvilla777 wrote: Woodley vs McDonald... Remember?

Yes, I remember Woodley vs. MacDonald very clearly, but Wonderboy and MacDonald don't fight anything alike.

Wonderboy isn't high level with his hands, and he doesn't possess a good jab. MacDonald possesses an elite jab, which is what he beat Woodley with.

finally someone sees it the same as me... woodley is underrated imho and could win.

All but one picked Alvarez > McGregor .. .what?

On November 07 2016 15:29 Spitfiree wrote: All but one picked Alvarez > McGregor .. .what?

I never really take picks serious from professional fighters. They're always biased in some way.

For example, a lot of fighters who pick Alvarez to win (in general, not just in this video) are either from the East Coast, have a wrestling background, and/or don't like Conor for various reasons.

• Wonderboy was unbiased and accurate in his assessment (he didn't pick a winner)
• Stevie Ray (from Scotland) picked Conor
• TJ Laramie had the best assessment, imo. He sees it how I see it (picked Conor)
• Tim Johnson (a wrestler) clearly isn't familiar with either guy (he didn't pick a winner)
• Jesse Ronson thinks Conor will be able to land, but not KO Alvarez (he picks Alvarez by decision)
• Peter and Max Barrett (no idea who they are) pick Alvarez
• Kevin Lee (a wrestler) picks Alvarez

I have decided to consider deciding that Weidman might expose Romero. Hes good at that. It might be his path to victory.
Still keeping my Romero bet, the odds were good.

On November 07 2016 04:22 jvilla777 wrote: Woodley vs McDonald... Remember?

Unrelated comparison if there ever was one. Rooting for Thompson pretty hard but I agree with the notion that Woodley's being underrated in this spot. Rory definitely does control range better with his hands. Along with his general mentality/style, was able to pick and choose when he'd be even a little exposed to Woodley's counter explosions. As good as he is with kicking, Thompson can't pull his leg back from a kick as fast to reset as Rory did with his jab. Any little bit more room/time to counter is enough to threaten for someone as athletic as Woodley. Think Woodley is going to surprise Thompson early on with how much faster he is than Thompson's typical opponent. Hopefully Thompson stays patient and starts to pick him apart

On November 07 2016 15:29 Spitfiree wrote: All but one picked Alvarez > McGregor .. .what?

A generality but one based in a lot of truth: Lots of Conor's peers are jealous as fuck and won't bring themselves to pick him in public

Dude is it just me or does woodley look like he is a lhw? He looks scary as fk and like he will rip wonderboy in half after his fight with lawler.

On November 07 2016 01:46 PuertoRican wrote: Random thoughts about Wonderboy vs. Woodley The fight I keep thinking about most is Wonderboy vs. Woodley. I expected Woodley's cardio to be new and improved for his last fight against Lawler, and he ended up finishing him fast, so it was never tested. Woodley also basically left team ATT in Florida for his last fight and trained at Roufusport with Duke Roufus/Pettis brothers/etc. and brought his main coach with him from ATT. Although, Woodley owns an ATT gym somewhere (I think Atlanta), and he never officially left ATT in Florida cuz he will always be a part of the family since he owns one of their gyms. This won't be like Wonderboy vs. Hendricks. Woodley won't do the same shit. Woodley is wayyyyy faster, stronger, closes the distance much faster, and hits much harder than Johny Hendricks. Woodley's explosiveness is also better than Hendricks', which means he'll present different take downs to Wonderboy. We also don't know how good Wonderboy's cardio is against someone who can control him against the cage and on the ground. He needs a lot of space to kick, and his punches aren't super technical and he lacks the pop in his hands for 1-punch KOs. Another big factor is confidence. Both guys are very confident, but Woodley is in the zone right now, and he's mentally superior and is willing to take the fight wherever to win. Wonderboy can only hope to avoid the TD and not get KO`ed. Since Wonderboy is mostly a kicker, and Tyron has a stance that allows him to move away and move in real fast and has the speed in his feet and hands and power, I think this will end up being a bad MU for Wonderboy.

Rory controlled Woodley mostly by good distance control but also by blocking punches with his elbows and stiff arming him with the left all the time, Wonderboy doesnt do that, as most karatekas he has very fast linear movement, so he gets out and in range extremely fast, however Woodleys very often does a stupid attack where he leaps-runs forward throwing the right, usually this shitty punch accomplishes nothing against a good striker which Wonderboy is but Wonderboys defense is leaping back super fast so he might leap back and still be in perfect reach for Woodleys silly punch.

I think Wonderboy destroys Woodley unless Woodley catches him with that punch... if that happens you can vow to me as the new LP.nets official Jack Slack.