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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 21 2016 06:50. Posts 13217


Rekrul is a newb 

Big_Rob_isback   United States. Oct 21 2016 14:56. Posts 211

When Conor has the reach advantage it is game over for his opponents. Thats why I worried about him vs. Nate. But I think he cracks Eddie here.

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cariadon   Estonia. Oct 22 2016 08:24. Posts 4019

I`d like to comment on the cardio issue. You can cut weight lots of ways. If you leave the bulk of it to the last minute it is going to be devastating no matter what. However if you cut weight by eating slightly less and exercising in a way that builds endurance i believe it is possible to weigh less and have better cardio.


northsails   Bulgaria. Oct 22 2016 09:57. Posts 410


 
Leg kicking and being more cautious in Round 1 isn't how Conor fights. He had to be helped to the back of the arena after his second fight was over with Nate. Conor was then on crutches after he was in the back.

So no, leg kicking and fighting the way he did against Nate in their second fight isn't his style of fighting. He knew he had to change something, or end up punching himself out and gassing, followed by getting finished again.




He was still the one doing the pressuring and countering, which is his style of fighting. just added leg kicking to his arsenal. It was not like he was circling around throwing leg kicks and then gassed out out of nowhere.


Big_Rob_isback   United States. Oct 22 2016 13:07. Posts 211


  On October 22 2016 07:24 cariadon wrote:
I`d like to comment on the cardio issue. You can cut weight lots of ways. If you leave the bulk of it to the last minute it is going to be devastating no matter what. However if you cut weight by eating slightly less and exercising in a way that builds endurance i believe it is possible to weigh less and have better cardio.



This is fairly simple and true. More muscle mass makes you get tired quicker. Also, even worse, more mass that isn't muscle will make you get tired quicker too. Like Conor said, he has no ab definition at 170. Some of his extra mass definitely was not muscle.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Oct 22 2016 17:32. Posts 9634

Which is kind of weird. Since he s not a midget or anything. He s 1.75 so 70kgs ( 155lbs ) should be the place where he feels best in a matter of strength/cardio
170lbs -> 77-78kgs are supposed to be where he goes from optimal weight to a bit fat for his body type I guess

 Last edit: 22/10/2016 17:33

whamm!   Albania. Oct 23 2016 06:54. Posts 11625

his frame is not really heavy set, he's got long legs and arms for 5'9. kind of short torso but not too short. i think his frame is "lighter" compared to bemuscled guys with the same height. btw these conor clones are popping up everywhere in the UFC it's kinda gross how they try to "act" like conor lol

 Last edit: 23/10/2016 06:56

Nazgul    Netherlands. Oct 23 2016 16:03. Posts 7080

Is this on paper the best UFC card ever?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_100
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_194

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gebbstet   Sweden. Oct 23 2016 17:11. Posts 391


  On October 23 2016 15:03 Nazgul wrote:
Is this on paper the best UFC card ever?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_100
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_194



For sure imo.

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alejandicto   . Oct 23 2016 20:15. Posts 865


  On October 23 2016 16:11 gebbstet wrote:
Show nested quote +



For sure imo.

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Shit Nice, I am more hyped now :O


Nazgul    Netherlands. Oct 23 2016 22:47. Posts 7080

I'm inclined to agree this card is insanely stacked top to bottom can't wait. I need to figure out some bets though.

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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 23 2016 23:49. Posts 13217

Rekrul is a newb 

Minsk   United States. Oct 24 2016 03:23. Posts 1558

Does Connor lose his belt if he loses this?


PuertoRican   United States. Oct 24 2016 06:34. Posts 13217


  On October 24 2016 02:23 Minsk wrote:
Does Connor lose his belt if he loses this?


If Conor beats Eddie, he'll have 2 belts for one week or so, then give up one of his belts.

If Conor loses to Eddie, he'll still have his Featherweight belt and can go defend the title if he wants to try and make 145 pounds again.

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Minsk   United States. Oct 24 2016 11:07. Posts 1558

I'm fairly confident that Eddie will win then.

 Last edit: 24/10/2016 11:07

Nazgul    Netherlands. Oct 24 2016 11:28. Posts 7080

How does everyone feel about Weidman -165 (Romero) and Alves -160 (Miller)? Thinking about betting those two alongside Thompson -185.

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Minsk   United States. Oct 24 2016 12:02. Posts 1558

I like Romero for sure. I don't see any reason Weidman should have the edge over Romero, I think Romero should be the favorite. Just due to his athleticism and reaction speed. Hes a more natural atheltic fighter and Weidman is a good generic fighter with a good mindset and wrestling, but I don't see what edge hes going to get over Romero from that skillset.

I ended up being pretty indifferent about Alves after thinking thoroughly about it, because the odds and I can see Miller dominating him on the ground like 33% of the time. While I don't think Miller can really stand with him.

 Last edit: 24/10/2016 12:12

Nazgul    Netherlands. Oct 24 2016 13:57. Posts 7080

For me I've just always felt Weidman/Rockhold were a level above the rest of the division, even if it is often hyped as the big four with Rockhold/Weidman/Jacare/Romero. Certainly Romero is athletic but he is also 39 years old, got into MMA late, and has an absolute dog shit gas tank.

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Oct 24 2016 16:14. Posts 7499


  On October 22 2016 07:24 cariadon wrote:
I`d like to comment on the cardio issue. You can cut weight lots of ways. If you leave the bulk of it to the last minute it is going to be devastating no matter what. However if you cut weight by eating slightly less and exercising in a way that builds endurance i believe it is possible to weigh less and have better cardio.



Sure, but you realize he was slated to fight at 155 pounds 11 days before his first fight with Nate right? That was his LW weight, he didn't suddenly put on weight in 10 days for the 170 pound fight, he simply didn't have to cut much. Then he had 5 months and a 300k camp to try and improve his cardio and still gassed after 2 rounds.

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Oct 24 2016 16:18. Posts 7499


  On October 24 2016 10:28 Nazgul wrote:
How does everyone feel about Weidman -165 (Romero) and Alves -160 (Miller)? Thinking about betting those two alongside Thompson -185.



I like them but there is some variance with Weidman. Weidman at his best should definitely be a good bet at those odds. But he looked kind of small and terrible against Rockhold which is his only post USADA fight, plus he's had a ton of injuries which we don't know how badly they've affected them. Might be best to wait till weigh ins to see how he looks physically closer to the fight, dunno if sharp money will come in on him though and affect the odds.

He apparently did have a fractured foot about a month out from the Luke fight and struggled to train, so that could be the reason for why he looked bad. But with how often he's injured who knows if he's coming in healthy to this fight.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny peteLast edit: 24/10/2016 16:23

 
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