UFC 205: Alvarez vs. McGregor - Page 5

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"USADA strikes UFC 205, Lyman Good pulled for possible doping violation"

Hopefully they can find a replacement. Lyman vs. Belal was a fight I was looking forward to.

Romero seems like a terrible fighter to me, fantastic wrestler with shit cardio, Weidman is an amazing grappler so even if things go Romeros way he controls the 1st ground, gets some GnP and then collapses.

It should be a clear for Weidman unless he was doping hard before and now he is shit or something weird like that.

On October 25 2016 02:03 PuertoRican wrote: "USADA strikes UFC 205, Lyman Good pulled for possible doping violation" Hopefully they can find a replacement. Lyman vs. Belal was a fight I was looking forward to.

Vicente Luque vs. Belal Muhammad is the new match.

MW is such a shit division post USADA. Rockhold beats everyone but does have a chinny quality to him, Bisiping pillowfists, Romero, Weidman, all have diminished too. If wonderboy put on some muscle he could probably crush that division as well he is tall and long like Rockhard. I'm curious about what Jacare's shape is also, but he's brazilian so there's a good chance he was on some jesus juice as well.

On October 26 2016 04:23 Baalim wrote: Romero seems like a terrible fighter to me, fantastic wrestler with shit cardio, Weidman is an amazing grappler so even if things go Romeros way he controls the 1st ground, gets some GnP and then collapses. It should be a clear for Weidman unless he was doping hard before and now he is shit or something weird like that.

Not sure how you can say that. 7-0 in the UFC, wins over Brunson ( who's probably #5 or 6 best MW right now ) Kennedy, Machida, and Jacare. And he honestly doesn't use his wrestling all that much, most of those fights were won with his striking. He's the best athlete in UFC history almost certainly and has ridiculous power. Also most of his finishes come in the 3rd round so I wouldn't say he gasses all that much, but much of that is him being able to pace himself.

He's definitely a really good fighter, I just think Weidman is a great fighter who won't allow Romero to pace himself and will wear him down with pressure and use his massive reach advantage to box him up from the outside and maybe land something big coming in.

On October 26 2016 13:31 whamm! wrote: MW is such a shit division post USADA. Rockhold beats everyone but does have a chinny quality to him, Bisiping pillowfists, Romero, Weidman, all have diminished too. If wonderboy put on some muscle he could probably crush that division as well he is tall and long like Rockhard. I'm curious about what Jacare's shape is also, but he's brazilian so there's a good chance he was on some jesus juice as well.

lol god you're so terrible.

Turn your volume up.

On October 26 2016 15:12 Stim_Abuser wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 04:23 Baalim wrote: Romero seems like a terrible fighter to me, fantastic wrestler with shit cardio, Weidman is an amazing grappler so even if things go Romeros way he controls the 1st ground, gets some GnP and then collapses. It should be a clear for Weidman unless he was doping hard before and now he is shit or something weird like that. Not sure how you can say that. 7-0 in the UFC, wins over Brunson ( who's probably #5 or 6 best MW right now ) Kennedy, Machida, and Jacare. And he honestly doesn't use his wrestling all that much, most of those fights were won with his striking. He's the best athlete in UFC history almost certainly and has ridiculous power. Also most of his finishes come in the 3rd round so I wouldn't say he gasses all that much, but much of that is him being able to pace himself. He's definitely a really good fighter, I just think Weidman is a great fighter who won't allow Romero to pace himself and will wear him down with pressure and use his massive reach advantage to box him up from the outside and maybe land something big coming in.

His results does not match his skill imo, just look at how shitty his striking is, he is slow and has shit cardio despise the 3rd round finishes, the big athletic wrestler era is over and can only carry you so long, they still get these long winstreak but mostly because their opponents fight like idiots against their obvious holes like its happening with Romero, happened with Woodley, happened with Phil Davis etc.

On October 31 2016 01:25 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 15:12 Stim_Abuser wrote:   On October 26 2016 04:23 Baalim wrote: Romero seems like a terrible fighter to me, fantastic wrestler with shit cardio, Weidman is an amazing grappler so even if things go Romeros way he controls the 1st ground, gets some GnP and then collapses. It should be a clear for Weidman unless he was doping hard before and now he is shit or something weird like that. Not sure how you can say that. 7-0 in the UFC, wins over Brunson ( who's probably #5 or 6 best MW right now ) Kennedy, Machida, and Jacare. And he honestly doesn't use his wrestling all that much, most of those fights were won with his striking. He's the best athlete in UFC history almost certainly and has ridiculous power. Also most of his finishes come in the 3rd round so I wouldn't say he gasses all that much, but much of that is him being able to pace himself. He's definitely a really good fighter, I just think Weidman is a great fighter who won't allow Romero to pace himself and will wear him down with pressure and use his massive reach advantage to box him up from the outside and maybe land something big coming in. His results does not match his skill imo, just look at how shitty his striking is, he is slow and has shit cardio despise the 3rd round finishes, the big athletic wrestler era is over and can only carry you so long, they still get these long winstreak but mostly because their opponents fight like idiots against their obvious holes like its happening with Romero, happened with Woodley, happened with Phil Davis etc.

I think you're confusing that his style isn't the most clean or eloquent with his skills being low-level. I'm not positive though. Sometimes people with very brute low-refinement looking styles can look like that, where they look pretty raw, but its also just a viable style that looks like that. I feel he falls right in the middle of that where I can't say which one it is either, but it certainly could just be stylistic.

On October 31 2016 01:25 Baalim wrote: His results does not match his skill imo, just look at how shitty his striking is, he is SLOW

Great analysis, Romero indeed is very slow.

Romero isn't slow. Out of the two fighters, Weidman is the slow one.

Romero is a master at slowing down his fights and getting his opponents to fight the speed he wants them to; then he explodes on them.

Without explosiveness and the ability to fight fast when he wants to, Romero wouldn't have much going for him.

yea lol wtf Baal, I feel like you're talking about a different fighter. Romero is the quickest and most explosive MW ever and one of the most p4p.

I do think he's a lil overhyped by some but you don't run through Kennedy, Machida, and nearly kill Jacare in the 1st while being a shitty MMA fighter with slow shitty striking lol.

I do agree he's got some holes in his game, mainly if he's forced to fight at a high pace he gasses and his wild striking leads to him getting clipped and hurt sometimes. Overall he's pretty beast though.

Romero is explosive , but gasses pretty quick .

Also:

Obviously Romero is one of the most athletic fighters in the UFC, but that GIF explains perfectly what I mean with slow





Look at all those useless motion, compare that ridiculous jumping knee that did very little to a short precise knee to the liver by Overeem, who is the slowest fighter? obviously Overeem yet he will deliver a more powerful shot in half the time of that knee.

Obviously romero will probalby beat all middleweight in a 100m dash, but that makes him explosive but not actually fast when striking.

If you have trained some boxing you will know that a quick jab isnt really about how fast your muscles can move, its about having absolutely no load-up, weight back and uncorking it with elbows low sholders tight.

Speed in striking is about no load up and efficiency of movement and under that terms Romero is slow as fuck, he is all over the place, he telegraphs everything, he is an insane machine with 90% friction and 10% action.

what a clunky highlight real that is lol

On November 02 2016 00:30 whamm! wrote: what a clunky highlight real that is lol

It was posted to show his speed and I think it all shows what im talking about, sloppy shitty striking, what the fuck is with that full squat too lol, the point of feinting is to force your opponent to react and waste energy not that you waste more energy feinting than your opponent lol.

On November 01 2016 23:05 Baalim wrote: Obviously Romero is one of the most athletic fighters in the UFC, but that GIF explains perfectly what I mean with slow Look at all those useless motion, compare that ridiculous jumping knee that did very little to a short precise knee to the liver by Overeem, who is the slowest fighter? obviously Overeem yet he will deliver a more powerful shot in half the time of that knee. Obviously romero will probalby beat all middleweight in a 100m dash, but that makes him explosive but not actually fast when striking. If you have trained some boxing you will know that a quick jab isnt really about how fast your muscles can move, its about having absolutely no load-up, weight back and uncorking it with elbows low sholders tight. Speed in striking is about no load up and efficiency of movement and under that terms Romero is slow as fuck, he is all over the place, he telegraphs everything, he is an insane machine with 90% friction and 10% action.

LOL. Another great analysis. So much gold in here. Keep them coming.

He does do a lot of weird useless movement when hes striking but I also think it helps to confuse the absolute shit out of his opponents and make him very unpredictable. Plus he also throws a lot of normal combinations and regularly beats good fighters to the punch, and when he lands its often devastating as fuck.

Regardless he's obviously very effective which at the end of the day is all that matters.

On November 02 2016 16:50 Stim_Abuser wrote: He does do a lot of weird useless movement when hes striking but I also think it helps to confuse the absolute shit out of his opponents and make him very unpredictable.

So did Keith Jardine but that didnt make him fast, and Jardine had set-ups with his weird movement, Romero is just spazzing all over the place with no specific plan just wasting his absurd athleticism.

His results are obviously great, and its not hard to side with a 12-1 guy who beat Machida and Jacaré yet here I am predicting that he will be exposed soon, you will see.