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lebowski   Greece. Mar 22 2016 22:06. Posts 9205


  On March 22 2016 20:16 Big_Rob_isback wrote:
Donald Trump isn't a racist or a bigot or whatever. He is simply saying whatever he feels will get him elected. Democrats here are the bigots, they pander to people's skin color, wages, gender, and religion because they want their vote, they dont actually give a shit about them. Trump is pandering to people's fears.

That being said, the only thing Trump has said that is really bad is he went waaaay overboard about muslims, which makes it obvious he is unfit for presidency. He does say that stuff just to get attention though.

Trump is much more interesting than it seems people are giving him credit for. His campaign is allowing all the bullshit going on in the u.s. media and all the bullshit that far left groups are about come to the surface. The pc has to stop, its just that trump is not qualified. I hope the long term effect of his presidential run will be positive and help people wake up to the over pc shit.

If you guys want an example of what I am talking about, I will give one. Obama has not said radical islamic terrorism, not even once. He also constantly preaches for u.s. citizens to not be hateful towards american muslims. Statistics show that post 9/11 2001 muslims have not in any way had hate crimes rise against them. Meanwhile hate crime against Jews is steadily much higher.



I think Trump's populism is far more dangerous than being overly pc. I'm not giving any moral high ground to the democrats but I think what Trump does could spiral out of control. I don't care who gets elected as long as the whole thing doesn't end in a massive shitstorm (or bloodbath) of Christians vs Muslims or Muslims vs the world or whatever. So I'd rather have a politician who sucks up to people/minorities with bs pc, than have dudes who seem willing to do anything on their ride to power.

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...Last edit: 22/03/2016 22:10

uiCk   Canada. Mar 22 2016 22:18. Posts 3521


  On March 22 2016 20:16 Big_Rob_isback wrote:
Statistics show that post 9/11 2001 muslims have not in any way had hate crimes rise against them. Meanwhile hate crime against Jews is steadily much higher.



Source?

Googling hate crimes muslim post 911 got me:

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike TysonLast edit: 22/03/2016 22:21

soberstone   United States. Mar 22 2016 22:40. Posts 2662


  On March 22 2016 21:18 uiCk wrote:
Show nested quote +


Source?

Googling hate crimes muslim post 911 got me:



Yup. Yet if you listened to the MSM or President Obummer you'd think it was an epidemic. It's all political pandering.

As 2001 shows, hate crimes against Muslims will go up when we let Terror spread, which is just natural human nature - to be angry when nutjobs are killing innocent people people tend to get aggravated and make bad decisions.

 Last edit: 22/03/2016 22:42

cariadon   Estonia. Mar 22 2016 23:03. Posts 4019

Sure this is a terrible thing to have happened. One of many in Europe in recent times. Bad.

However, media magnifies everything 1000-fold. During the Genghis Khan era, not too many centuries ago, every 8th person in the world was killed because of that mongoloid. That's decimation.

I feel safe. popcorn.gif for Trump. Not many believe it can happen, until it may. Ridiculous baboon.


VanDerMeyde   Norway. Mar 22 2016 23:35. Posts 5108

Every second/third month now, if we count Koln.

This is unreal

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Mar 22 2016 23:40. Posts 9634

Trump wont happen. It's a clownfest which will demolish the republicans, well deserved too. The funniest part is about to come @ Summer when his own party tells him to fuck off though considering he wont gather the needed delegates

 Last edit: 22/03/2016 23:41

passiveace   United States. Mar 22 2016 23:56. Posts 46

If Trump loses at the convention then he probably goes third party and the republicans lose 30% of their base for years to come. I think that party leaders will actually unite behind him rather then risk the damage of trump telling his supporters to not vote for the republican party.

There might be a good number of republicans in congress who will see appeasement as the lesser evil

 Last edit: 23/03/2016 00:05

whamm!   Albania. Mar 22 2016 23:59. Posts 11625


  On March 22 2016 16:09 uiCk wrote:
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Your simplistic view of the world is mindblowing.

Actually no its not.



Well simplicity in the face of obvious danger is more common, unlike your constant scholarly apologetic explanations on how it's the bigot's fault 100% of the time. How stupid can you get? You offer any solutions from Salon.com or Gawker? I think not. Do nothing? I've said it before in the numbers of threads like this one, there will be more attacks whether you bomb them or not, they have been saying this 3 years ago, they will flood Europe and they will do exactly what they are doing right now. You look too deep into things and keep blaming Bush and Obama like I'm a big fan of those fucks, all you gotta to do is listen to them and take their threats seriously. You keep calling me out each time in these threads and all you accomplish is you "sound" progressive.

 Last edit: 23/03/2016 00:00

soberstone   United States. Mar 23 2016 00:37. Posts 2662

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428146/more-than-few-islamic-extremists

Disturbing stuff. I'd like to hear any liberal make a coherent argument against any of the claims. I'm open minded.


Baalim   Mexico. Mar 23 2016 02:05. Posts 34250


  On March 22 2016 22:40 Spitfiree wrote:
Trump wont happen. It's a clownfest which will demolish the republicans, well deserved too. The funniest part is about to come @ Summer when his own party tells him to fuck off though considering he wont gather the needed delegates



According to bets Trump has a 30% chance to win.... so Trump very well could happen

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whamm!   Albania. Mar 23 2016 02:09. Posts 11625

#t=254

 Last edit: 23/03/2016 02:09

uiCk   Canada. Mar 23 2016 03:34. Posts 3521


  On March 22 2016 22:59 whamm! wrote:
Show nested quote +



Well simplicity in the face of obvious danger is more common, unlike your constant scholarly apologetic explanations on how it's the bigot's fault 100% of the time. How stupid can you get? You offer any solutions from Salon.com or Gawker? I think not. Do nothing? I've said it before in the numbers of threads like this one, there will be more attacks whether you bomb them or not, they have been saying this 3 years ago, they will flood Europe and they will do exactly what they are doing right now. You look too deep into things and keep blaming Bush and Obama like I'm a big fan of those fucks, all you gotta to do is listen to them and take their threats seriously. You keep calling me out each time in these threads and all you accomplish is you "sound" progressive.


Cool, got any more rehashed opinionated labels?

Btw loved the Trudeau name drop in that earlier post.

Also i dint read opinion pieces in general, my news feed is mostly straight factual news and i skip over whatever opinion is included in the article of interest. You should do the same. And i most definitely dont waste time watching view hungry retards spew there "opinions" on youtube, whatever side of the spectrum.

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike TysonLast edit: 23/03/2016 17:22

Baalim   Mexico. Mar 23 2016 04:52. Posts 34250

Could we not fucking discuss Trump?

I dont think that subject needs to be discussed in a forum of this intellect come on, leave that to ignorant rednecks, probably not even dogmeat would support him.

Its a shame that this will only make him stronger because again, the regressive left offers nothing but excuses and ignores an obvious problem.

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RaiZ   France. Mar 23 2016 05:44. Posts 1503


  On March 22 2016 10:35 Baalim wrote:
But remember, this has NOTHING to do with Islam...



  On March 22 2016 12:37 whamm! wrote:
lol no way


It absolutely has nothing to do with that religion. Those fanatic bombers are using it as an excuse, and it does make a bad publicy for the religion (tbh I don't mind since they're all stupid but w/e that's not the point)

  On March 22 2016 14:00 whamm! wrote:
Seems like when they caught the mastermind for the Paris attacks, this was the backlash. Great logic, capture the guy who planned the murder of 100 innocent people, radicals kill another 35 more. Damn it appears Europe is going to change for the worse


Are you saying great logic with a sarcastic tone ?

Btw Baal is right. Just fucking stop making any parodies of trump, it's actually worse because he's getting more and more attention. Just ignore him pretty, please ?

Shin-il : Yeah it was very very very good for me too. Rekrul : YOU MOTHER FUCKING FUCKING SON OF A BITCHLast edit: 23/03/2016 05:47

soberstone   United States. Mar 23 2016 06:15. Posts 2662



France is fucked. Germany is fucked. And WW3 is probably not far off. You guys really need to get your shit together over there. If I'm being over-dramatic, watch the 4 minute video and show me how, cause I'd really like to wake-up tomorrow and know that this is all fear-mongering. I'd MUCH rather be wrong.

 Last edit: 23/03/2016 06:18

Baalim   Mexico. Mar 23 2016 08:07. Posts 34250


  On March 23 2016 05:15 soberstone wrote:


France is fucked. Germany is fucked. And WW3 is probably not far off. You guys really need to get your shit together over there. If I'm being over-dramatic, watch the 4 minute video and show me how, cause I'd really like to wake-up tomorrow and know that this is all fear-mongering. I'd MUCH rather be wrong.



It partially is fear mongering when its generalizing the word "radical Muslim".

There are less than 1M Jihadist in the world, these are people who want to wage war against the west and impose Islam in the entire planet (ISI, AlQuaeda etc).

There are indeed about 600M ISLAMISTS, which support Sharia law in Islamic countries and have barbaric beliefs like death penalty for apostacy, homosexuality etc, these people are fucked up but they dont pursue armed conflict against the west.

So no, there wont be a 3rd world war, there isnt simply military oposition to NATO besides Russia and China that do antagonize NATO from time to time but they are not going to declare war under any circumstance, so that would leave you with what, Pakistan?

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Mar 23 2016 11:47. Posts 9634


  On March 23 2016 05:15 soberstone wrote:
I'd MUCH rather be wrong.


you are
now live happily

a potential 3rd world war wouldn't be a clash between NATO/Russia/China ( even though USA s being quite annoying when it comes to the sea territory south of China, even though media tries to propaganda China as the " antagonist " .... and Putin showed that he s probably the smartest geopolitician in the world considering his actions past years, basically exploiting every situation to its maximum and withdrawing when its time. so no way he gets into a big military conflict) would much more likely be a shit storm in the Mid-east with NATO's involvements and proxy terrorist acts in Central/West Europe - which is already happening so ...
I really feel like the civillized world is safe from the threat of complete demolishment such as the one during WW2, however the threat for arabs is very much real.

P.S. a bit off topic, if anyone is aware of this and just a theoretical question, what happens if one NATO country declares war to another? Is it true that there is nothing written on the subject in their agreements ?

 Last edit: 23/03/2016 11:49

fira   United States. Mar 23 2016 13:48. Posts 6345

i read on a news update from a day ago that "the Islamic state had taken responsibility" for these bombings? i'm not sure what that means...


NewbSaibot   United States. Mar 23 2016 15:11. Posts 4943


  On March 23 2016 12:48 fira wrote:
i read on a news update from a day ago that "the Islamic state had taken responsibility" for these bombings? i'm not sure what that means...

Short for ISIS

bye now 

fira   United States. Mar 23 2016 20:56. Posts 6345

what does it mean to take responsibility though? how can a state take responsibility for the actions of a few people? and, is the statement supposed to be an apology, or like, a declaration of war?


 
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