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chris   United States. Mar 26 2016 19:33. Posts 5503

You are all wrong. SCIENTOLOGY is the ONE TRUE WAY

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soberstone   United States. Mar 26 2016 22:57. Posts 2662






Baalim   Mexico. Mar 27 2016 04:33. Posts 34250


  On March 26 2016 17:07 soberstone wrote:
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Oversimplifications like this are just stupid. Don't blame religion, blame people. Stalin? Murdered more than anyone. Atheist. Didn't love his neighbor.

These days the Church does far, far more good than bad (even Catholicism which I admit I kinda have a personal bias against because that particular church is uber corrupt and I think the concept of a Pope is just sooooo dumb - sorry Catholics) regardless of how bad some of the shit in the bible sounds at face value. Because the Church modernized.

Islam just needs to modernize big time, which means people need to stop being policed into being politically correct and not acknowledging that it has a massive problem with radical fundamentalism.

Anyone or any country who believes in a Caliphate, Theocratic rule, Jihad, etc needs to be shunned. Not complicated. On a tangent, would be a lot easier for the US to stop buying oil from these shitbags if we dug up what was under our own feet instead of worrying about nonsense Climate Change (another stupid politically motivated phenomenon and yes I know that carbon emissions are up... perfectly faithful that science will take care of this in due time and if not too bad because China ain't stopping).

IF that's not possible, I don't claim to know, would probably need to ask an objective moderate Muslim scholar, than Islam will end up going bye bye after a lot of people die. I have faith for Muslim moderates that they can take over and modernize their religion.


Of course religion is partially responsible lol they are killing themselves screaming "god is great" and you still refuse to hold these stupid beliefs responsible?

Also you are daft if you think Catolicism vatican corruption and pedophiles is currently more harmful to the world than Islam, it is so obviously not true I dont think I really need to even go much into it.

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whamm!   Albania. Mar 27 2016 04:59. Posts 11625

They won't stop bombing even if you:

a) leave them alone in the middle east
b) apologize or speak in their behalf
c) Pretend to understand their struggle and be one with them

All religion is retarded but this one wins the award for the past 10 years straight


soberstone   United States. Mar 27 2016 06:24. Posts 2662


  On March 27 2016 03:33 Baalim wrote:
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Of course religion is partially responsible lol they are killing themselves screaming "god is great" and you still refuse to hold these stupid beliefs responsible?

Also you are daft if you think Catolicism vatican corruption and pedophiles is currently more harmful to the world than Islam, it is so obviously not true I dont think I really need to even go much into it.



Incase you haven't noticed I'm the guy who thinks Islamism/Radical Islam is, currently, a huge problem that needs to be pointed out and shit all over. Christianity and Judaism have some pretty dark histories (Judaism not so much in modern history) but today they are causing much more good than evil because they have modernized, don't try and violently convert people, and do a shitload of Charity.

I'm also not willing to go so far as to say religion is the core problem, and used Stalin as an example. The Nazis also hated religion, Hitler was only a Catholic for political purposes to rise up the ranks.

I think you mistake me for someone else here, I am NOT defending Islam. I hate people who cry bigot over facts and truth.

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Baalim   Mexico. Mar 27 2016 06:28. Posts 34250


  On March 27 2016 05:24 soberstone wrote:
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Incase you haven't noticed I'm the guy who thinks Islamism/Radical Islam is, currently, a huge problem that needs to be pointed out and shit all over. Christianity and Judaism have some pretty dark histories but today they are causing much more good than evil because they have modernized, don't try and violently convert people, and do a shitload of Charity.

I'm also not willing to go so far as to say religion is the core problem, and used Stalin as an example. The Nazis also hated religion, Hitler was only a Catholic for political purposes to rise up the ranks.

I think you mistake me for someone else here, I am NOT defending Islam. I hate people who cry bigot over facts and truth.



yeah I got confused I think, anyway no christianity and other religions obviously not do more good than harm but lets not discuss that in this unrelated thread

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Baalim   Mexico. Mar 27 2016 06:29. Posts 34250


  On March 27 2016 03:59 whamm! wrote:
They won't stop bombing even if you:

a) leave them alone in the middle east



how would you know?

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soberstone   United States. Mar 27 2016 06:30. Posts 2662

I think it is all related. I'm not sure how you can say, Mormons for instance, who are almost literally are all about charitable missions, peace, etc. are doing more harm than good. Why? Because a small portion of them believe in Polygamy? Give me a break.

I do worry about all religions getting lumped in unfairly with Islam's current issues so I do think its pertinent, but I am glad we can agree on the core subject.

In my own personal experience, as a guy who was raised Jewish (not hardcore at all) but who is an Agnostic, I've found that most Religious Christians are nice people who believe in family, charity, good morals, don't push their religion down my throat, while I've found that Atheists are young people who think they have it all figured out but are really quite Militant about their beliefs and are pretty miserable people because once you've ruled out any purpose to living at all and are "sure" God/some higher power (same shit) doesn't exist, it's kinda tough to be happy. I feel bad for them. They end up, again in my experience, worshiping something anyway - whether its environmentalism, veganism, democratic socialism, or some other such nonsense.

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capaneo   Canada. Mar 27 2016 09:32. Posts 8465


  On March 25 2016 07:37 Baalim wrote:
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I disagree with Harris on a few things specially about foreign policy but to say he is worse than somebody who beheads "kaffirs" is absolutely idiotic, so even if you use that comparison as hyperbole you shouldn't, it makes you lose credibility



Because beheading people and going "all-in" at-least requires balls. Which he doesn't have. He likes it when people like Ben Carson would hint that they would do similar things. He likes to preemptively nuke the muslims. But he just says shit. He is like those terrorists only "train" and brainwash suicide bombers but never do anything themselves.

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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Mar 27 2016 14:03. Posts 5108

lol capaneo u are really crazy

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whamm!   Albania. Mar 27 2016 15:02. Posts 11625


  On March 27 2016 05:29 Baalim wrote:
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how would you know?



Well Belgium...Philippines...we don't even have a proper army lol
They will bomb and terrorize when they can. We even kicked out the U.S. bases 10 years now. Yet they will look for reasons to bomb shit for practice
They've been pretty excited announcing that there are ISIS cells in the PH now, warnings of shit going down etc. Didn't even give any demands, just gonna fuck us up when we drop the ball. Maybe for being a Catholic country? Take a guess

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whamm!   Albania. Mar 27 2016 15:07. Posts 11625


  On March 27 2016 08:32 capaneo wrote:
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Because beheading people and going "all-in" at-least requires balls. Which he doesn't have. He likes it when people like Ben Carson would hint that they would do similar things. He likes to preemptively nuke the muslims. But he just says shit. He is like those terrorists only "train" and brainwash suicide bombers but never do anything themselves.



^^ Oh that's such a Sam Harris thing to say


whamm!   Albania. Mar 27 2016 17:33. Posts 11625

Just in 44 dead in pakistan suicide bombing
Near the childrens rides in a park, christians celebrating
Easter sunday.


Santafairy   Korea (South). Mar 27 2016 22:29. Posts 2226


  On March 27 2016 05:29 Baalim wrote:
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how would you know?

What were we doing in the Middle East on September 10th, 2001?

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traxamillion   United States. Mar 28 2016 01:03. Posts 10468


  On March 27 2016 16:33 whamm! wrote:
Just in 44 dead in pakistan suicide bombing
Near the childrens rides in a park, christians celebrating
Easter sunday.



I don't get it. These seem unrelated


Baalim   Mexico. Mar 28 2016 01:29. Posts 34250


  On March 27 2016 08:32 capaneo wrote:
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Because beheading people and going "all-in" at-least requires balls. Which he doesn't have. He likes it when people like Ben Carson would hint that they would do similar things. He likes to preemptively nuke the muslims. But he just says shit. He is like those terrorists only "train" and brainwash suicide bombers but never do anything themselves.



No he never advocated to preemtive nuke muslims for fucks sake, this opinion is incredibly retarded, so people who behead are better at him because they have more balls? To me you have zero credibility regarding this issue because of opinions like this, it shows you are clearly not objective and rational

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tapatapaz   Brasil. Mar 28 2016 04:14. Posts 1279


  On March 27 2016 08:32 capaneo wrote:
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Because beheading people and going "all-in" at-least requires balls. Which he doesn't have. He likes it when people like Ben Carson would hint that they would do similar things. He likes to preemptively nuke the muslims. But he just says shit. He is like those terrorists only "train" and brainwash suicide bombers but never do anything themselves.



holy ****. man. wow. capaneo, you can't seriously think that. i think you dislike Sam for some obscure reason, which is OK, and now you are rationalizing your opinion - ill give you the benefit of the doubt here

And what does self awareness have to do with anything you retard? srsly stfu. - baal 

whamm!   Albania. Mar 28 2016 06:01. Posts 11625

This Muslim shopkeeper in Scotland wanted tolerance and wrote a heartfelt message of peace to Christians
- after a couple of hours he was stabbed to death in front of a lot witnesses. Smh.
If this kind of behavior gets a death sentence, no wonder the moderates don't say shit
https://www.rt.com/uk/337257-scottish-muslim-shopkeeper-killed/

 Last edit: 28/03/2016 06:03

cariadon   Estonia. Mar 28 2016 06:25. Posts 4019

If you had a trip planned to the destination Brussels (or Paris), would you still go or cancel?


Santafairy   Korea (South). Mar 28 2016 06:34. Posts 2226


  On March 28 2016 05:25 cariadon wrote:
If you had a trip planned to the destination Brussels (or Paris), would you still go or cancel?


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