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On April 01 2016 16:47 ClouD87 wrote: Lol yeah. And that's exactly why Sweden gets to have thousands of muslim rapists doing whatever they want. Congrats.

Thousands? (2000+)
Source?

On April 01 2016 16:32 traxamillion wrote: Yea gumsterm is just dead wrong. Go back to university with thay crap

Did you just use university as an insult?

On April 01 2016 13:24 VanDerMeyde wrote: this Picture is so sad (((

That is like using twisted stats to make an argument.

On April 01 2016 17:58 uiCk wrote: Show nested quote + On April 01 2016 16:32 traxamillion wrote: Yea gumsterm is just dead wrong. Go back to university with thay crap Did you just use university as an insult?

Was going to use a specific example (Berkeley) but you foreigners probably wouldn't get it. All I meant was go back to whatever breeding ground for ignorant, immature philosophies/ideologies you came from

Eek

On April 01 2016 09:22 Gumster wrote: where do people get all these misconceptions about refugees? is it the media? why are we not receiving any fair and insightful coverage about the one's who are making it here from other countires. rapists, unskilled workers, serial killers, wtf? most of the syrians that come to europe are well-educated and prior to emigrating were middle or upper class citizens. people will believe anything that makes the world a simpler place and easier for their simpleton brains to understand.

Lol, beyond the fact that this is a huge strawman...

Most of the Syrians might be that, but from all the polling I've found the majority of migrants aren't even Syrian.

On April 01 2016 17:58 uiCk wrote: Show nested quote + On April 01 2016 16:32 traxamillion wrote: Yea gumsterm is just dead wrong. Go back to university with thay crap Did you just use university as an insult?

I went to one of the top 50 public Uni's in the US.

I'm not the most intelligent guy around, far from it, but believe me at least 20% of the student body there was surprisingly incapable of critical thinking or really doing anything beyond studying for the test and plagiarizing.

Actually, I had to do some group work with a guy who think was quite literally illiterate. University has been a sham for quite awhile unless you're studying Engineering or specific fields of Science / Computer science imo.

On April 01 2016 22:57 nolan wrote: Show nested quote + On April 01 2016 17:58 uiCk wrote:   On April 01 2016 16:32 traxamillion wrote: Yea gumsterm is just dead wrong. Go back to university with thay crap Did you just use university as an insult? I went to one of the top 50 public Uni's in the US. I'm not the most intelligent guy around, far from it, but believe me at least 20% of the student body there was surprisingly incapable of critical thinking or really doing anything beyond studying for the test and plagiarizing. Actually, I had to do some group work with a guy who think was quite literally illiterate. University has been a sham for quite awhile unless you're studying Engineering or specific fields of Science / Computer science imo.

+1 big time.

On April 01 2016 22:57 nolan wrote: Show nested quote + On April 01 2016 17:58 uiCk wrote:   On April 01 2016 16:32 traxamillion wrote: Yea gumsterm is just dead wrong. Go back to university with thay crap Did you just use university as an insult? I went to one of the top 50 public Uni's in the US. I'm not the most intelligent guy around, far from it, but believe me at least 20% of the student body there was surprisingly incapable of critical thinking or really doing anything beyond studying for the test and plagiarizing. Actually, I had to do some group work with a guy who think was quite literally illiterate. University has been a sham for quite awhile unless you're studying Engineering or specific fields of Science / Computer science imo.

post education rate is directly correlated with countries success, growth wise, wealth wise which leads to better wages and thus better living standards.

So using university as a pejorative term, especially sitting in front of a device that was invented by people with post secondary education, is quite dishonest.

And what you are talking about (and probably trax) is diminishing returns of universities, which is very normal, given the large amount of people that can afford to go now compared to , say, 100 years ago, and the amount of information one can gather online, blurrs the line between post secondary educated people, and non post secondary educated people. The returns are still there, just not as spectacular as before, since alot of universities have become financially oriented and accept people that are clearly more efficient at other tasks. And each department within universities, depending on societies needs, have moments of diminishing returns also, while other flourish (think finance and MBA's circa year 2000, which are now on downswing with major diminishing returns, especially MBA's)

But yea, i can also come up with examples of how person x is smarter more successful then person y who went to university, and x did not, so universities are a sham. these statements are invalid.

and would say, from my experience, more then 80% of people that attend(ed) universities have no grasp on critical thinking. though that number diminishes quickly once you get to year 2, year 3, post graduate studies. i don't know the numbers, but the amount of uni drop outs in our era far exceeds graduation levels i would think.

Most likely will enter some more circular discussions if i continue, so hopefully i can bow out, again. sometimes i wish i can just phase out LP temporarily from my memory,but i have the worst self control ever and always the urge to speak my mind

agreed 100% with uiCk on the University issue, indeed they arent as good as they used to be but you also see some hilariously ignorant rednecks dismiss university students as if somehow those damn liberals cant think of their own if they join one only because there are a bunch of retarded PC kids screaming in videos.

Gumster made the same mistake Capneo did saying Dogmeat is just as bad as a terrorist... come fucking on, Dogmeat is a racist idiot and actually I permanently banned him but he obviously isnt remotely as bad as somebody who beheads people, your argument loses any meaning when you say something so obviously not logical.

On April 02 2016 00:05 uiCk wrote: and would say, from my experience, more then 80% of people that attend(ed) universities have no grasp on critical thinking. though that number diminishes quickly once you get to year 2, year 3, post graduate studies. i don't know the numbers, but the amount of uni drop outs in our era far exceeds graduation levels i would think. Most likely will enter some more circular discussions if i continue, so hopefully i can bow out, again. sometimes i wish i can just phase out LP temporarily from my memory,but i have the worst self control ever and always the urge to speak my mind

it's not circular and you're not wrong, it's just i think that these days when someone says 'go back to uni' they're implying a specific type of university student rather than insulting all uni students. conversely i've seen someone try to defend an argument with 'WHAT UNIVERSITY DID YOU GO TO? DO YOU EVEN HAVE A DEGREE' which is basically the other side of the same retard argument coin.

http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/22/syrian-...zi-politician-from-car-crash-5768337/

I am posting this just to show how irrelevant it is to bring up the crimes committed by a few refugees and then make a conclusion about millions of people based on that.

On April 01 2016 08:11 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On March 31 2016 18:02 Spitfiree wrote: Don't bother he ll just call you a conspiracy theorist now and he ll be done :D I think a view of the world with "they" is childish, to believe there is such a level of organization, and malevolent control of things given many factors (stupidity, lifespan etc) simply isnt compatible with an objective view of the world, clearly society isnt the work of intelligent design but the work of the all mighty forces of randomness.

I do not believe in any kind of organization such as illuminati and whatever, at least not in a specific structure. There is however a "flexible" organization if you can call it even that. Its just between the people that run the world and they are being changed constantly. I'm not quite sure how to formulate it in English, so I'll give an example:

Country A, B and C have the absolute geopolitical control, hence they are running the planet, however their leadership is changed, hence the " flexibility ". Rotshields and etc. are the commercial theory for running the world right now, because the USA has been the only geopolitical force that managed to win all battle for the past hundred years and they are(Rotschields ) the methaphorical bankers that run the country, obviously they are a big part of it, but i highly doubt they are the solo force. Politicians are never the true rulers however, its people with influence and money that are so in current society, were the people with the influence on army in the past.
Anyways the reason i can't call it an organization is, in the hyphotetical situation, any given country of the A,B,C could make a mistake and lose their power, and get replaced, or have inner restructuring and bend its politics, so its not like 10 people get in a room and decide "we ll demolish the Balkans" and do it. Now here s probably where people would instantly tell me to put my thin foil hat, cause its as if there is always someone thats there " out to get us ", but when you read political, geopolitical and historical reviews of how the world was ran the past 600-800 years, you ll always notice the same thing, the global power trying to submit as many people as possible towards their views. I guess its just human nature, its not something new however, it does not change the world we live in, its just something that people should be aware of and respond appropriately.
Observing the global picture for the past hundreds of years is something we should learn from. It's just a game of chess, being aware of it gives you the chance to be able to adapt fast, nothing more for most people. I'd rather know that, than be a dumbass who laughs at such " theories " ( just get through a geopolitical or international affairs course in an university and see those same things being confirmed by people with much higher authority than mine), not forcing anyone to change his views


P.S. thats a big offtopic
P.S. I was only agreeing with Mortensen about his views on politics not being ran in a way which helps society, but for ulterior motives, which is so in 90% of the cases

On April 02 2016 08:27 capaneo wrote: http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/22/syrian-...zi-politician-from-car-crash-5768337/ I am posting this just to show how irrelevant it is to bring up the crimes committed by a few refugees and then make a conclusion about millions of people based on that.

How does that make crimes irrelevant? You show me a fruity little article I'm sure I could counter with something else.

How many of the millions people will choose god over the country they just settled in. How many generations until they let that go? That's the problem you probably dont even know any muslims and you are just as bad as the people you probably despise on the right.

I'm for Canada helping refugees and bringing them over because we can cap it and screen these people. Why should Europe allow an unending stream of unscreened people, a lot of them not syrian and just taking advantage of the situation? Saudi Arabia and Iran sure don't and Turkey is getting fed up but they are getting paid so its OK. These people have very different values and beliefs and its dangerous to try and assimilate so many of them at once. There will be more Belgiums but we oppressed conquered and colonized and the middle east and syria is the way it is because USA, so its OK. #whiteguilt.

On April 02 2016 12:01 KrappyKonnect wrote: That's the problem you probably dont even know any muslims

This is where Capaneo points out that he is persian and knows more muslims than all of us combined instead of actually replying to actually meaningful posts where I said around 50% of muslims believe in death to aphostacy, homosexuality etc. and calling him out on his claims about Sam Harris.

On April 02 2016 10:01 Spitfiree wrote: P.S. I was only agreeing with Mortensen about his views on politics not being ran in a way which helps society, but for ulterior motives, which is so in 90% of the cases

Yes, just as the Queen bee will do what a Queen bee does, but she does not design the hive, she does not build their society.

Of course a power hungry career bureaucrat will do stupid shit with power, that is what humans do, we are selfish , obtuse with a weak sense of morality, but Merkel isn't flooding Germany with refugees because she has some evil masterplan to dilute the race for votes for future generations of the stupid political party, nor Obama is drone-bombing the shit out of the middle east because he believes in the anglo-saxon hegemonmy, they both think they are kind of doing the right thing while at the same time pursuing personal interests and maintaining the Status Quo.

The way Mortensen spoke was as if there were some highly intelligent sociopaths orchestrating a multi-generational machiavelic scheme, and for better or worse thats not the reality, our genetic coding plus randomness rules our society at all scales.

On April 03 2016 09:09 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On April 02 2016 12:01 KrappyKonnect wrote: That's the problem you probably dont even know any muslims This is where Capaneo points out that he is persian and knows more muslims than all of us combined instead of actually replying to actually meaningful posts where I said around 50% of muslims believe in death to aphostacy, homosexuality etc. and calling him out on his claims about Sam Harris.

Where do you get these numbers?

And Muslims from where? That is such a broad population. It is impossible to do any survey on Muslims on the entire world. Do you know how did this specific surveying work?

On April 02 2016 12:01 KrappyKonnect wrote: Show nested quote + On April 02 2016 08:27 capaneo wrote: http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/22/syrian-...zi-politician-from-car-crash-5768337/ I am posting this just to show how irrelevant it is to bring up the crimes committed by a few refugees and then make a conclusion about millions of people based on that. How does that make crimes irrelevant? You show me a fruity little article I'm sure I could counter with something else. How many of the millions people will choose god over the country they just settled in. How many generations until they let that go? That's the problem you probably dont even know any muslims and you are just as bad as the people you probably despise on the right. I'm for Canada helping refugees and bringing them over because we can cap it and screen these people. Why should Europe allow an unending stream of unscreened people, a lot of them not syrian and just taking advantage of the situation? Saudi Arabia and Iran sure don't and Turkey is getting fed up but they are getting paid so its OK. These people have very different values and beliefs and its dangerous to try and assimilate so many of them at once. There will be more Belgiums but we oppressed conquered and colonized and the middle east and syria is the way it is because USA, so its OK. #whiteguilt.

First, who is arguing for letting in "unscreened" people?
And second, why you think these refugees chose Europe and North America over Saudi Arabia and Iran to take shelter in? Do you think it is because they want to setup sleeper cells in those countries? These people know better than anyone why fundamentalism is a problem. The fundamentalist Islam is a real problem here and should be defeated in an ideological battle with the change of culture over time. To alienate possibly your best allies in such a war is the most destructive thing you can do.
The point is that almost all of these refugees are literally running away from the enemy. To turn them around is not only inhumane it is the most counter productive thing you can do to defeat Islamist extremist. The Belgian attackers were born and raised in Belgium. The London attackers were born and raised in England (one in Jamaica). Most of these fools blowing themselves up have never experienced the evil side of Islam. These refugees have and will be the voice in those mosques and communities who will speak against the bullshit ideology.

I can tell you first hand from many many people I know. The Muslims running away from Middle-east are the strongest and most outspoken people against the fundamentalist ideologies that is the root of the problem and their voice carries ALOT more weight than the likes of Bill Maher and Sam-fucking- Harris.

please, in my post, point to where i talked about terrorists, i said extremists, people with extreme (often religious) views. those are not typically the ones blowing themselves up, it's rarely the same thing. never once did i mention terrorists. you guys should learn how to read. you guys just completely ignored the most important points i was trying to make cuz your stupid ass didn't read the post carefully enough.

of course killing innocent people is worse than having the viewpoint that people should not be allowed to migrate to your country, that's not the point i was trying to make. i just mean that some people have excellent opportunities to educate themselves as citizens in europe and america, yet they believe shit that trump says and these easy "lets just close the borders" solutions

also the "go back to university" insult was a good one. ill do that. now you go back to your fucking mancave and read all those "reliable" sources that you've found of the people that are "the only ones daring to tell the truth about those immigrants!!"