I do not have time to research all of those. I have come to the conclusion that who really does unless they are Bernie Sanders or putting food on the table to research above. Great online debate tactic that I am guilty of: "Hey everyone, research and answer all of these really complicated questions or there is no discussion (which is true but also perhaps unreasonable)."
I will say image above is misleading.
"Voted YES on Congressional pay raise"
Here is a good example. I do not have the time to go and research all the facts but let's assume that the pay raise was inline with the previous years' and expected future years' inflation rates. That would seem reasonable to me. An argument could be made that the government is in debt and therefore should not be giving pay increases but then the question arises should government be a profit center? Honestly, I have an ideal of government not as government but as trusted public service. I do not know if that ideal is reasonable.
I may do some research on above image and get back to you. Thank you for posting though. All of them are disconcerting. Hopefully, if anyone else has insight and accurate information on above they will chime in and continue the discussion.
In another thread someone mentioned Bernie's policy on Israel. A quick google search could likely provide cliff notes but I figure I would just post to get discussion going on that too before I forget.
On September 09 2015 02:11 dogmeat wrote:
could be, but in reality isnt. it only produces abundance of philosophers, social-antropologists and gender-equality experts
Do you have any facts to support that?
It is a somewhat amusing post. I chuckled. That does not make it accurate.
On September 09 2015 02:11 dogmeat wrote:
could be, but in reality isnt. it only produces abundance of philosophers, social-antropologists and gender-equality experts
this is incorrect and it shows you have a very pessimistic and capitalist view of the world. there are plenty of countries where education is free and this problem does not exist. it enables people of different social statuses and backgrounds to educate themselves and be productive citizens like everybody wants to be
Do not push the river, it will flow by itself. - Polish proverb
The world is a fucked up place if it's generally considered a disadvantage when people take a step back and think a bit about their lives instead of working like mindless drones till they die
new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...
On September 09 2015 02:11 dogmeat wrote:
could be, but in reality isnt. it only produces abundance of philosophers, social-antropologists and gender-equality experts
this is incorrect and it shows you have a very pessimistic and capitalist view of the world. there are plenty of countries where education is free and this problem does not exist. it enables people of different social statuses and backgrounds to educate themselves and be productive citizens like everybody wants to be
yet in almost every country theres a big demand for doctors and engineers, supplied from 3rd world countries. these jokes about philosophy masters flipping burgers arent that inaccurate
On September 09 2015 11:04 lebowski wrote:
The world is a fucked up place if it's generally considered a disadvantage when people take a step back and think a bit about their lives instead of working like mindless drones till they die
it shows you have a very pessimistic and socialist view of the world when you see working as mindless droning -_-
Working is only mindless droning if you never thought about why you're doing it, a purpose. Which would require you to be a bit of a philosopher of sorts. How does not considering philosophy a useless luxury make me a socialist or pessimistic, I leave it to your always optimistic, joyful and kind hearted responses
new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...
A government is the most dangerous threat to man’s rights: it holds a legal monopoly on the use of physical force against legally disarmed victims. - Ayn Rand
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
I've got one more thing to add which I didn't think about earlier to the people that actually think because Trump is supposedly a good businessman that would imply he would be capable of running a government. That is absolutely fundamentally wrong. Businesses are ran in a way where you minimize costs and risk and optimize profits. Governments are exactly the opposite of that ( well not literally ). The USA and therefore the world has been ran by corporations for at least a decade now and look how it turns out. A corporate shark like Trump ( nevermind how discussable his skills in that sphere are ) is the worst thing that could happen to you, adding the fact that he s a moron will lead to a politically unstable environment in the very best scenario. Most of the decisions made when running a country you re put in the dilemma where you have to choose between profits and socially just redistribution the definitions of which are a matter of perspective. For example low income households represent a high risk for the health sector compared to mid-high class meaning they should cover heavier weight of the taxation if seen from business perspective, however that is obviously insane, cause you can't burden such households even further. That's just a basic example and I don't expect even as dumb as Trump to do such thing, but situations common to this will arise that don't have such a clear answer.
Anyways the fact that the western world lacks human resource and Trump's need to chase all the mexicans away shows a clear image of how retarded he is. That's like Germany pushing away Turks or England - Indians. Obviously different cultures and backgrounds will need a long amount of time to adjust, but in the end both parties profit. Immigration problems in the USA are one of the last issues that must be covered. I'm guessing however ( since I have no idea what the situation there is ) that there is s major voting group that would support such claims and a large % of the rest would not give a fuck about it which in no means justifies the deed.
Whole thing feels like a prequel to a civil war vol.2.
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