On June 14 2015 05:01 soberstone wrote:
Lost $15.00 on the night, would've won a shit ton if I was completely wrong in every way about the main event. GG #ifeeldumb :/
7 out of 11 underdogs won tonight, so don't feel bad. If Werdum didn't win, I would've lost several units myself cuz Cain wasn't gonna finish that fight u2.5 rounds after he gassed in round 1 going for the big kill.
Also, the only guy who went past round 1 and didn't gas was Yair. Kelvin wasn't gassed, but he slowed down his pace in round 2. High altitude raped everyone.
I thought Yair Rodriguez was the big over-achiever (obviously aside from Werdum) for the night. Rosa was good and game like I expected, but Rodriguez is the first TUF Latin America guy who looks like he can stick around and even make a run at the top 10 at feather. He simply looked amazing, which I'm pretty sure shocked a lot of people.
Kelvin v Marquardt really saved me with the stoppage - that was clearly a good bet (both the moneyline and the KO prop at +225), as was Torres by decision at +110.
I disagree that Cain looked the same as always. Cardio Cain was not Cardio Cain, he won the first round on every media scorecard I've seen yet by the end of the round you could tell he was fading, looked sloppy, had no power on his punches, lost ALL head movement, and was beginning to lose in the clinch. That's exactly the opposite of what I've come to expect of Cain, and I blame the elevation. If you think I'm just making excuses for the guy because I picked him, I don't blame you, but you'd be wrong.
I was completely wrong in thinking that the elevation would play into Cain's strengths - his cardio namely, because Werdum clearly responded much better to it which in retrospect should have been predictable since he'd been staying there and training there for 2 months.
I still think that if Cain managed to stay healthy and ever looks like his old self (whether it was ring rust - which I don't buy, or coming to train in the elevation last minute - which I do buy) - he'll still be a favorite in my mind in any heavyweight fight. I do not think he deserves an immediate rematch obviously and it would be a stupid move to make it.
On the bright side, Heavyweight is kind of exciting again. I've thought about a lot about the match-ups and no matter how you do it, someone gets left out / fucked.
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soberstone   United States. Jun 14 2015 23:10. Posts 2662
On June 14 2015 21:56 PuertoRican wrote:
ROFL. God you gotta love Nate. Spices it up.
I actually favor Diaz over Alvarez in a 5-round fight.
As far as Pettis, Diaz is kidding himself, Pettis would beat the fuck out of him an overwhelming majority of the time, terrible style matchup.
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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 15 2015 01:50. Posts 34250
On June 14 2015 08:07 Nazgul wrote:
AKA wanted to bring Cain in earlier but he didn't think it was necessary.
Thats what happens when you think you are mexican but actually you arent
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flounder44   United States. Jun 15 2015 08:11. Posts 916
^ same with mark munoz cept hes an even bigger poser... at least cain can speak espanol
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traxamillion   United States. Jun 15 2015 11:23. Posts 10468
Cain might have been winning round 1 on the scorecards technically or something but Cain def took more damage in round 1 and ate much harder strikes. Might not have been phased just off the cardio and gassing but also from taking damage to his domepiece
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wongfeihung   United States. Jun 15 2015 20:43. Posts 48
On June 15 2015 07:11 flounder44 wrote:
^ same with mark munoz cept hes an even bigger poser... at least cain can speak espanol
What? Mark Munoz is Filipino.
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soberstone   United States. Jun 16 2015 00:06. Posts 2662
On June 15 2015 07:11 flounder44 wrote:
^ same with mark munoz cept hes an even bigger poser... at least cain can speak espanol
What? Mark Munoz is Filipino.
Yes. I believe he is making a comparison because Munoz wasn't born in the Philipines.
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soberstone   United States. Jun 16 2015 03:21. Posts 2662
God Damn. Promo's for 189 so good. And the entire card is fire. Gonna be at the MGM. Stoked. Prolly gonna be some good Irish vs Brazilian street-scraps to watch too.
Also a well-made amateur promo for Rockhold Weidman
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NotSorry   United States. Jun 16 2015 05:21. Posts 2603
Werdum still keeps his chin up and doesn't move his head much, JDS or Overeem could be champ soon because of it.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men.
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Jun 16 2015 21:32. Posts 7499
On June 16 2015 04:21 NotSorry wrote:
Werdum still keeps his chin up and doesn't move his head much, JDS or Overeem could be champ soon because of it.
He's super durable though, throws a ton of volume, and has way better fight IQ and cardio than both of those guys. And lettuce not act like either of those men are hard to hit either.
Werdum is definitely very beatable though and either could win.
Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete
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whamm!   Albania. Jun 17 2015 00:15. Posts 11625
expect the "REEM 3.0" to put out another episode lol
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Floofy   Canada. Jun 18 2015 15:31. Posts 8708
I was in vacantion in Cuba with my GF so i only put one bet on this card.
Werdum ML.
I didn't put a lot because of all the talk but i should have put more.
+385, with cain's ring rust, altitude, and it being heavyweight, was a really good line imo
I decided not betting on Pendred only because the fight is on Mexico.
I won the Yair Rodriguez and the u2.5 bets, but I am confused because I thought that meant if it got to round 3 I lose. I think it depends of the site you bet? : S?
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TianYuan   Korea (South). Jun 27 2015 09:01. Posts 6817
Was on vacation for a few weeks and didn't keep up with anything. Came back and just now watched this, holy shit what a feel good fight. Werdum is such a perfect champion, trilingual, exciting, and sick personality.