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On September 16 2014 10:53 Gnarly wrote: Jobs should exist if they are the most effective way to get something done. If automation is more effective, then that should take over jobs.

aaaand thats exactly how it works lol

Nobody automates something if manual labor would be more effective.

And also lol @ automated scientists... wtf are you smoking?

can't wait till everything is automated, and we are liberated from our bodies!

Gnarly take some macroeconomics classes and you ll understand how stupid you are...
If society had followed your ways, we d probably live in the stone age wow. How the fuck are you so ignorant

Like.. you have no basic understandings of unemployment and why is it healthy to have it and how does it lead to progress
I bet you don't even understand why am i even talking about unemployment

On September 16 2014 12:47 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On September 16 2014 10:53 Gnarly wrote: Jobs should exist if they are the most effective way to get something done. If automation is more effective, then that should take over jobs. aaaand thats exactly how it works lol Nobody automates something if manual labor would be more effective. And also lol @ automated scientists... wtf are you smoking?

http://www.cs.bris.ac.uk/publications/Papers/2001073.pdf

Literally the first result for automated scientific theory.

On September 16 2014 16:33 Spitfiree wrote: Gnarly take some macroeconomics classes and you ll understand how stupid you are... If society had followed your ways, we d probably live in the stone age wow. How the fuck are you so ignorant Like.. you have no basic understandings of unemployment and why is it healthy to have it and how does it lead to progress I bet you don't even understand why am i even talking about unemployment

Unemployment allows for mobility in the work force, and currently, the best % is around 5%. Too much, and not enough people are working. Too little, and there aren't enough jobs. Basic stuff you learn in high school economics.

Do you even know the statistics for unemployment per demographic? Do you even know which groups have been okay since 08 and which groups are still struggling? Like how the dollar is doomed (oh wait, it's been going up and up and up lately) and how gold is going to 10k and bitcoins are going to 100k, y'all can buy up that stuff or short, but I'll be laughing because you're following articles written by, well, ultimately, the people you're buying from.

BUT MUH BUFFET, HE BOUGHTEDED GOLDED WHEN IT WAS AT 1.8K
and look what happened after he said that.

>actually thinking gold's value is even over $400

On September 16 2014 19:29 Gnarly wrote: Show nested quote + On September 16 2014 12:47 Baalim wrote:   On September 16 2014 10:53 Gnarly wrote: Jobs should exist if they are the most effective way to get something done. If automation is more effective, then that should take over jobs. aaaand thats exactly how it works lol Nobody automates something if manual labor would be more effective. And also lol @ automated scientists... wtf are you smoking? http://www.cs.bris.ac.uk/publications/Papers/2001073.pdf Literally the first result for automated scientific theory.

Did you even read that link? yeah because automating some of the mindless processes of experimentation means we have robot scientits lol.

Also wtf does gold have to do with anything, btw nice dodge on the rest of my post

Why do you think companies want to automate their production? to fuck with people? lol its obviously more efficient and cheap, its a natural process and it has been happening for over nearly 200 years and in those 2 centuries there has been idiots claiming that people are loosing their jobs, yeah everything was hand made back in the day, and now it isnt and there isnt a job crisis, there spots for shoe makers closed and spots to many other more advanced jobs open every fucking day, its part of our civilization, and this process is not only a by product of advancement, its a necessity for it.

Thinking corporations should give money away for free so people can buy their shit with the money they just gave away is retarded and lacks the slightest understanding of economics, hey ill give you $5 bucks so you can buy my $5 product... im going to get rich! lol nice business model there.

^at some point the intellence of an average potencial worker becomes a barrier, not a problem for next few decades thou

On September 17 2014 06:18 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On September 16 2014 19:29 Gnarly wrote:   On September 16 2014 12:47 Baalim wrote:   On September 16 2014 10:53 Gnarly wrote: Jobs should exist if they are the most effective way to get something done. If automation is more effective, then that should take over jobs. aaaand thats exactly how it works lol Nobody automates something if manual labor would be more effective. And also lol @ automated scientists... wtf are you smoking? http://www.cs.bris.ac.uk/publications/Papers/2001073.pdf Literally the first result for automated scientific theory. Did you even read that link? yeah because automating some of the mindless processes of experimentation means we have robot scientits lol. Also wtf does gold have to do with anything, btw nice dodge on the rest of my post Why do you think companies want to automate their production? to fuck with people? lol its obviously more efficient and cheap, its a natural process and it has been happening for over nearly 200 years and in those 2 centuries there has been idiots claiming that people are loosing their jobs, yeah everything was hand made back in the day, and now it isnt and there isnt a job crisis, there spots for shoe makers closed and spots to many other more advanced jobs open every fucking day, its part of our civilization, and this process is not only a by product of advancement, its a necessity for it. Thinking corporations should give money away for free so people can buy their shit with the money they just gave away is retarded and lacks the slightest understanding of economics, hey ill give you $5 bucks so you can buy my $5 product... im going to get rich! lol nice business model there.

but there is a job crisis. when you look at specific demographics, you'll see this, but I'm sure you know all about that, right?

more advanced jobs aren't really opening up every day. when not even a single person I've known either from high school or from the many different colleges I've partied at has an actual fucking career, I'd be more inclined to say that there are more and more service jobs opening up every day, not engineering or whatever.

when the labor participation rate keeps falling, does that really mean jobs that are automated are being replaced? if so, wouldn't the rate stay the same?

think of it like this: there are three companies that pool money together to give to people. they give this money and the people start buying things. company A has had a really good week, B has had a medium week, and C had a shit week. C won't be able to put in as much money the next time, while A will be able to put in more. Eventually, company C will go under because they don't get enough business. Company A AND B just got richer.

On September 17 2014 12:02 Gnarly wrote: Show nested quote + On September 17 2014 06:18 Baalim wrote:   On September 16 2014 19:29 Gnarly wrote:   On September 16 2014 12:47 Baalim wrote:   On September 16 2014 10:53 Gnarly wrote: Jobs should exist if they are the most effective way to get something done. If automation is more effective, then that should take over jobs. aaaand thats exactly how it works lol Nobody automates something if manual labor would be more effective. And also lol @ automated scientists... wtf are you smoking? http://www.cs.bris.ac.uk/publications/Papers/2001073.pdf Literally the first result for automated scientific theory. Did you even read that link? yeah because automating some of the mindless processes of experimentation means we have robot scientits lol. Also wtf does gold have to do with anything, btw nice dodge on the rest of my post Why do you think companies want to automate their production? to fuck with people? lol its obviously more efficient and cheap, its a natural process and it has been happening for over nearly 200 years and in those 2 centuries there has been idiots claiming that people are loosing their jobs, yeah everything was hand made back in the day, and now it isnt and there isnt a job crisis, there spots for shoe makers closed and spots to many other more advanced jobs open every fucking day, its part of our civilization, and this process is not only a by product of advancement, its a necessity for it. Thinking corporations should give money away for free so people can buy their shit with the money they just gave away is retarded and lacks the slightest understanding of economics, hey ill give you $5 bucks so you can buy my $5 product... im going to get rich! lol nice business model there. but there is a job crisis. when you look at specific demographics, you'll see this, but I'm sure you know all about that, right? more advanced jobs aren't really opening up every day. when not even a single person I've known either from high school or from the many different colleges I've partied at has an actual fucking career, I'd be more inclined to say that there are more and more service jobs opening up every day, not engineering or whatever. when the labor participation rate keeps falling, does that really mean jobs that are automated are being replaced? if so, wouldn't the rate stay the same? think of it like this: there are three companies that pool money together to give to people. they give this money and the people start buying things. company A has had a really good week, B has had a medium week, and C had a shit week. C won't be able to put in as much money the next time, while A will be able to put in more. Eventually, company C will go under because they don't get enough business. Company A AND B just got richer.

No, there is not a world job crisis, if theres a particular job crisis in a country its because of its economy not because of the natural advancement in jobs.

Well maybe you need to hang out with a smarter crowd (maybe something will stick), the vast majority of my friends have degrees, many masters and a couple doctorates actually im one of the very few who doesnt lol

You say more sevice jobs are opening and less engineering jobs are available which is directly contrary to the belief that everything is getting automated

I cant believe you are insisting on that dumb idea... if you give $1000 to a person, and that person buys from your store a $1000 TV you didnt sell shit... you gave away a free TV for fucks sake

On September 17 2014 12:44 Baalim wrote: if you give $1000 to a person, and that person buys from your store a $1000 TV you didnt sell shit... you gave away a free TV for fucks sake

ding ding ding



I've often thought that gnarly's whole purpose is a massive trolling adventure. This thread strengthens that theory.

I say give Baal his forum rights back :D

also gnarly good job on googling unemployment, try googling structural & frictional unemployment now since its what i was talking about, except you couldn't have known that since you re pretty clueless, its what automation of production leads to, something pretty basic, anyone who's spent more than 10hrs on macroeconomics knows this shit


cba replying about other stuff you wrote since its not worth my time spent/entertainment level ratio

this has been a pretty epic derail

back on topic:

yeah U.S. media is terrible, and yeah PC faux outrage b.s. is annoying

I think the media should be held accountable for the rioting in Ferguson. Doubly so when they inevitably incite more outrage when this cop isn't even indicted by the grand jury.

People who aren't from America or don't realize how wide the right to self-defense is in most U.S. states probably find it shocking; but in a case where there is little evidence outside of questionable eye witness accounts and a shooter who doesn't need to justify why he acquired a weapon (cause he has to carry one for his job) it's going to be difficult if not impossible to get a conviction in court. The presumption of innocence means that if you say you felt threatened and were attacked you can legally kill the person attacking you. It's up to the courts to prove you were not in danger.

I don't know if the cop was out of line or not, and we'll probably never know, but unless some video of the actual shooting pops up I don't see how he wouldn't beat the charge anyways. People with good lawyers (which this cop would 100% have) have gotten off on murders with a whole lot more evidence than what exists in this case.

Anyways, I'll cut this already too long post short, but anyone with half a brain in the media already knows that there's not a really strong case against this cop. By keeping it in the media though they get to extend the story by further covering the outrage they themselves generated based on their reporting. In the eyes of the media the riots were best case scenario, gives them more of a "story" to cover. It's pretty dangerous and something I think the media as a whole has been pursuing more aggressively in the past few years.

Edit:

And to people who say "ya right, if this was Joe Citizen who shot him and said he felt threatened he'd be in prison for life!!!"

That may actually be true, but not explicitly because of corruption or police favoritism in the courts. Part of claiming self defense is explaining or justifying the acquisition of a weapon and providing for why you felt threatened. Both of these are pretty softball explanations for a cop.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...ck-pre-dawn-raid-capital-murder.shtml

Yeah, it's Texas which has some of the most lenient self-defense laws in the U.S., but here's one example of a citizen shooting a cop who failed to identify himself as an officer and a grand jury declining to indict considering it a case of self-defense.

Agree on media being held accountable. They never will be though as they have many powerful defenses and I think most people would be apathetic about it anyway. News corporations can pretty much spin anything they want to get your attention/outrage/etc. It would be sweet if people turned on the media instead of shop owners!

I think everyone has the right to self defense and that's one of the things America has right. The eyewitness accounts were pretty sketchy IMO and I totally side with the cop.

If you swapped the cop with a civilian (concealed carry holder) who was assaulted inside of his car then I doubt he would exit the vehicle. But If he did and the guy charged at him after already trying to take his weapon and having beaten him, you think he needs more to claim self defense? As far as non concealed carry permit holders go, I thought that the right of self defense would still apply but they may take an additional charge for carrying the weapon illegally. That said, if they're inside their car you could argue they're just on their way to a gun range but obviously less so if they exit the vehicle and pursue him.

On September 17 2014 12:44 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On September 17 2014 12:02 Gnarly wrote:   On September 17 2014 06:18 Baalim wrote:   On September 16 2014 19:29 Gnarly wrote:   On September 16 2014 12:47 Baalim wrote:   On September 16 2014 10:53 Gnarly wrote: Jobs should exist if they are the most effective way to get something done. If automation is more effective, then that should take over jobs. aaaand thats exactly how it works lol Nobody automates something if manual labor would be more effective. And also lol @ automated scientists... wtf are you smoking? http://www.cs.bris.ac.uk/publications/Papers/2001073.pdf Literally the first result for automated scientific theory. Did you even read that link? yeah because automating some of the mindless processes of experimentation means we have robot scientits lol. Also wtf does gold have to do with anything, btw nice dodge on the rest of my post Why do you think companies want to automate their production? to fuck with people? lol its obviously more efficient and cheap, its a natural process and it has been happening for over nearly 200 years and in those 2 centuries there has been idiots claiming that people are loosing their jobs, yeah everything was hand made back in the day, and now it isnt and there isnt a job crisis, there spots for shoe makers closed and spots to many other more advanced jobs open every fucking day, its part of our civilization, and this process is not only a by product of advancement, its a necessity for it. Thinking corporations should give money away for free so people can buy their shit with the money they just gave away is retarded and lacks the slightest understanding of economics, hey ill give you $5 bucks so you can buy my $5 product... im going to get rich! lol nice business model there. but there is a job crisis. when you look at specific demographics, you'll see this, but I'm sure you know all about that, right? more advanced jobs aren't really opening up every day. when not even a single person I've known either from high school or from the many different colleges I've partied at has an actual fucking career, I'd be more inclined to say that there are more and more service jobs opening up every day, not engineering or whatever. when the labor participation rate keeps falling, does that really mean jobs that are automated are being replaced? if so, wouldn't the rate stay the same? think of it like this: there are three companies that pool money together to give to people. they give this money and the people start buying things. company A has had a really good week, B has had a medium week, and C had a shit week. C won't be able to put in as much money the next time, while A will be able to put in more. Eventually, company C will go under because they don't get enough business. Company A AND B just got richer. No, there is not a world job crisis, if theres a particular job crisis in a country its because of its economy not because of the natural advancement in jobs. Well maybe you need to hang out with a smarter crowd (maybe something will stick), the vast majority of my friends have degrees, many masters and a couple doctorates actually im one of the very few who doesnt lol You say more sevice jobs are opening and less engineering jobs are available which is directly contrary to the belief that everything is getting automated I cant believe you are insisting on that dumb idea... if you give $1000 to a person, and that person buys from your store a $1000 TV you didnt sell shit... you gave away a free TV for fucks sake

>world job crisis

I'm talking about America, here. I know, it's really easy to forget that America isn't the center of this planet but... actually, it is.

The people I hang out own businesses.

Again, you really need to look at certain statistics. Active participation labor rate, full employment v half employment, different age, gender, and race groups. Once you actually look into this stuff, instead of spouting non-researched opinions, then you'll understand what's been going on.

It seems you have extremely poor reading comprehension. I'm not saying there is only going to be one company giving money away. What I'm saying is that COMPANIES, plural, and if you need a link explain the difference between plurality and singularity, I'll be happy to oblige, will be pooling their money. Again, refer to my previous example with company A, B, and C.

On September 17 2014 21:30 ggplz wrote: Agree on media being held accountable. They never will be though as they have many powerful defenses and I think most people would be apathetic about it anyway. News corporations can pretty much spin anything they want to get your attention/outrage/etc. It would be sweet if people turned on the media instead of shop owners! I think everyone has the right to self defense and that's one of the things America has right. The eyewitness accounts were pretty sketchy IMO and I totally side with the cop. If you swapped the cop with a civilian (concealed carry holder) who was assaulted inside of his car then I doubt he would exit the vehicle. But If he did and the guy charged at him after already trying to take his weapon and having beaten him, you think he needs more to claim self defense? As far as non concealed carry permit holders go, I thought that the right of self defense would still apply but they may take an additional charge for carrying the weapon illegally. That said, if they're inside their car you could argue they're just on their way to a gun range but obviously less so if they exit the vehicle and pursue him.

>ever once believe all the protesters are actual angry citizens and not having batches of undercover agents.

wtf @ >?

>occupy agents

On September 16 2014 02:39 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On September 15 2014 14:07 Gnarly wrote: IM TALKING ABOUT THE INCREASED AUTOMATION WE ARE SEEING IN THE WORKFORCE LOL LIKE OPEN YOUR EYES AND LOOK AT THE COMPUTER SCREEN DON'T TURN 360 DEGREES AND WALK AWAY LITERALLY ON THIS PAGE LOL 360 degrees? not sure if trolling or just increasingly stupid with each post.

maybe by 360 degrees he means he's baked

On September 17 2014 22:40 Gnarly wrote: It seems you have extremely poor reading comprehension. I'm not saying there is only going to be one company giving money away. What I'm saying is that COMPANIES, plural, and if you need a link explain the difference between plurality and singularity, I'll be happy to oblige, will be pooling their money. Again, refer to my previous example with company A, B, and C.

It doesnt matter if its one or one million companies, if you give money away so they can purchase something from you with that money you didnt sell shit, you gave that shit free you retard.