Leatherass -- Challenge issued

I hope he plays you but I doubt he will
isnt he some sort of bum hunter champion?

he has a big ego, that i know

also, maybe he thinks im a bum. but ya, chances r he doesn't respond ...my best action at that point would probly be to write a book to pick apart his game the same way he did to hellmuth. i'd whoop his ass in this challenge, i would've been comfortable laying more than 1.2-1. but he's got millions in the bank from poker, i don't, so for him to even think he needs more than that to play someone like me would be pretty pathetic.

LMAO ur like the online poker police

GET THEM

http://raisydaisy.pokerstrategy.com/Return-to-Action

He isn't good in HU and admits it himself, doubt he will play you dude

"Arrival10, the ethics of the games at Merge are so bad, admittedly I started leaving tables quickly as well after spending months frustrated that everyone else was doing the same. At some point it got to where if you were the decent guy, then you got taken advantage of with the button stealing etc. However, your assertion that I don't play you, while true in some cases if I have too many tables and can't handle a HU table, is simply not true. I will happily accept your action anytime you want. Probably not at the stakes you frequent mostly, but if you are looking for a higher stakes HU match, then just say the word. Dsticks - Great point. I will keep that in mind."

--Dusty Schmidt after I called him out for being a bumhunter.

He doesnt have e-penis issues like you. He does it to make money and bum hunt the weak. Playing people that are actually good is really dumb. I dont see whats your problem with him.

Hu4rollz 100/200

On January 27 2013 16:11 Chewits wrote: He doesnt have e-penis issues like you. He does it to make money and bum hunt the weak. Playing people that are actually good is really dumb. I dont see whats your problem with him.

so many posting here are so stupid.

READ THE OP. AND COMMENT #7.

hes just getting you mad bro its working

whats the highest stakes youd play him at

Well this might be fun.

its dependent on how much money i have on the site we decided to play. i'd assume we'd play on WPN. given that, i don't wanna play higher than 5/10 if it's for 20k hands. if it was on another site i'd consider playing 10/20 w/ a larger side bet.

marshal you got the mentality to be "the" poker player, who only wants to play the best and learn how to be the best, but i mean some guys just dont give a fck about you and your "quest", so its a little stupid to be mad if they give you the F word

i doubt he will play you, but would be good to see his ass kicked.

I read a blog recently Phil Galfond wrote about the topic of bumhunters and how it is ruining the community. IMO, I think for short-term economic purposes, sticking to playing lesser players is better. However, long term skill growth and future earnings probably leans towards playing a mix of good and bad players(I have no experience in this btw, just pure theory)

On January 27 2013 16:11 Chewits wrote: He doesnt have e-penis issues like you. He does it to make money and bum hunt the weak. Playing people that are actually good is really dumb. I dont see whats your problem with him.

Im not Marshall's fan but that sentence is so wrong.

coincedence I'm reading his book ''treat your poker like a business''. Maybe if you would've read his book, you'd understand more about his gameplan. It makes nothing but sense to sit next to bad players and table select good. As far as his book about Phil Hellmuth, I think it's just to draw more attention to his book (perceived from a business aspect). It worked, since negative attention is still beter than none. I don't think he is as bad as a guy as you describe him.

lol the guy has been successful in two distinct fields, he executes an approach to playing poker that focuses on maximising the amount of money he can win for his effort, who gives a fuck about challenging this guy to a battle of skills? I read his book years ago and it was great because it reminded me how life skill-deficient most twentysomething poker players are; the guy will keep making money at poker while many better players will (for one reason or another) have nothing to show for it.

theres nothing wrong with being a bumhunter. nobody gives a shit that leatherass is a bumhunter. what everyone hates is the fact that he would go around demeaning people who made less money than him in poker and acting like he was gods gift to poker.

i remember him insulting irockhoes cause leatherass had made 3 mill from poker and irock hadnt. irock came in and posted screenshots of him playing thousands of hands with leatherass overall but only playing a few hands of heads up. every regular clearly thought irock was the better player but leatherass had a higher winrate and played more hands so he had more money in the bank.

lol 2nd time that u senselessly call out someone who's minding their business.. doesnt help your case. as a friend, i strongly advocate that you get a life

we need more grudge matches. gogogo

u guys don't read too well. he said "ANYTIME YOU WANT A MATCH AT HIGH STAKES I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU".

I posted that quote.

grow the fuck up

marshall randomly flinging shit and neilly going bust, such frequent certainties in LP life that they are comforting.

I really like your personality btw, but I think you should just accept that there are people out there that only want the maximum amount of money for their time spend. Ofcourse always worth the try to call them out

i think Marshall is good for poker.

these challenges are what its all about.

if everyone minded their own business then there would be no poker game. ego and personality are going to come into it. someone has to be better than the other and you must battle to find out.

i hope this goes down and i hope marshall wins a ton from leatherass.

On January 28 2013 14:01 aernout wrote: I really like your personality btw, but I think you should just accept that there are people out there that only want the maximum amount of money for their time spend. Ofcourse always worth the try to call them out

i try to make it interesting.

maybe i should write a book w/ all the hands he and i have played and talk about how he played them.

theres probably no chance he accepts this, im not even sure he'd accept if i offered my 20k to his 10k.

On January 28 2013 14:48 chris wrote: i think Marshall is good for poker. these challenges are what its all about. if everyone minded their own business then there would be no poker game. ego and personality are going to come into it. someone has to be better than the other and you must battle to find out. i hope this goes down and i hope marshall wins a ton from leatherass.

tx for the support

On January 28 2013 14:48 chris wrote: i think Marshall is good for poker. these challenges are what its all about. if everyone minded their own business then there would be no poker game. ego and personality are going to come into it. someone has to be better than the other and you must battle to find out. i hope this goes down and i hope marshall wins a ton from leatherass.

agree

marshall crushed last match vs. zach. I think issuing challenges and coming off as a headcase is plus ev as well, since it doesnt seem to affect his game.

if i were trying to get action out of a perceived weaker player by trying to challenge his ego, not sure i'd go after the guy who's made a career out of having staggeringly disciplined game selection. but whatever i guess.

On January 28 2013 16:23 MARSHALL28 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 28 2013 14:01 aernout wrote: I really like your personality btw, but I think you should just accept that there are people out there that only want the maximum amount of money for their time spend. Ofcourse always worth the try to call them out i try to make it interesting. maybe i should write a book w/ all the hands he and i have played and talk about how he played them. theres probably no chance he accepts this, im not even sure he'd accept if i offered my 20k to his 10k.

On January 28 2013 03:09 Daut wrote: theres nothing wrong with being a bumhunter. nobody gives a shit that leatherass is a bumhunter. what everyone hates is the fact that he would go around demeaning people who made less money than him in poker and acting like he was gods gift to poker. i remember him insulting irockhoes cause leatherass had made 3 mill from poker and irock hadnt. irock came in and posted screenshots of him playing thousands of hands with leatherass overall but only playing a few hands of heads up. every regular clearly thought irock was the better player but leatherass had a higher winrate and played more hands so he had more money in the bank.

dude u aren't reading. this whole 'demeaning other players' business is what he did to me. that's the other reason this went down.

If you saw him at a casino would you swing at him?

On January 28 2013 16:23 MARSHALL28 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 28 2013 14:01 aernout wrote: I really like your personality btw, but I think you should just accept that there are people out there that only want the maximum amount of money for their time spend. Ofcourse always worth the try to call them out i try to make it interesting. maybe i should write a book w/ all the hands he and i have played and talk about how he played them. theres probably no chance he accepts this, im not even sure he'd accept if i offered my 20k to his 10k.

This is probably the first time I agree with what Marshall does so it means something.

Leatherass is

1. A bumhunter who prides himself in not actually trying to do his part in keeping games going and such.
2. Annoying.
3. Wants attention as a "good player" to get money from books, teaching or whatever.

Any somewhat healthy group of people needs to try and get rid of the guy and make sure to make fun of him and generally make him feel uncomfortable. The poker world would be better without him so whatever is bad for Leatherass is a good thing for poker. If I had a somewhat legal way of making him go broke and never be able to play again I'd snap take it.

Most winning regs does their part to start game, not snap-sit-out, make sure to keep the games fun etc. Leatherass does not. That's why everyone needs to take every opportunity to mess with him.

On January 29 2013 01:41 Funktion wrote: If you saw him at a casino would you swing at him?

of course not. lol

On January 29 2013 03:10 DustySwedeDude wrote: This is probably the first time I agree with what Marshall does so it means something.

if you've read a lot of my other stuff and you agree with this, you likely misunderstood where i was coming from in other situations.

i say that because this is at the heart of my beliefs. if i see a wrong and i have any power to right it, i will try to do so.

i think it just comes off as attention-whoring to some people which is why they might not like my internet persona. but what do i care about that? it's the internet.

if people can't handle somebody being real they probably can't stand to look at themselves in the mirror. there's no way they'd be cool enough to be one of my friends anyways.

marshall is the joe rogan of poker

if i was cool enough to be marshalls friend i woulda been so happy

On January 29 2013 07:00 whamm! wrote: marshall is the joe rogan of poker

LOL!!!!!


anyway, gl!

nothing like shitting on another villain in order to become a hero

On January 29 2013 07:00 whamm! wrote: marshall is the joe rogan of poker

more like the Nate Diaz of poker

Butt here I agree with him 100%. Its not just that leather@ss is a huge bumhunter and former shortstacker, its that he mass markets his game-ruining strategy to stroke his own ego.

Yada yada yada. Yeah. Bumhunters suck. But still, pretty insulting to Joe Rogan and Nate Diaz to compare this guy with them. Pretty darn insulting

i think it is a bit ridiculous how people say "oh ill play you anytime" and request a higher stake than marshall's as a deterrent. Marshall snap calls and still no match.

When is the wobbly match? isnt that supposed to go down?

leatherass says he wasnt dodging and would play anytime. match?

why doesnt anyone else seem to care at the dodging? if someone is going to stroke his own ego and then put himself on a pedestal as far as the industry as a whole, fine. but to then partially instigate and then accept a challenge and dodge it? shouldnt he have to at least buy out for some amount? (maybe thats reaching a bit, but still).

GL pete

I hope you get the action and you win

who is joe rogan and nate diaz?

...

ya chris, i'd be so embarrassed to ever call somebody out, say i'd play them any time, then back away when the guy accepts. it's a pretty pathetic thing to do. why i'll never have any respect for guys like wobbly or leatherass.

FWIW I used to love doing that. I found it to be absolutely hilarious to get someone riled up then watch them spin their wheels setting something up. I did that in warcraft/starcraft/poker.

On January 29 2013 17:55 Maynard! wrote: FWIW I used to love doing that. I found it to be absolutely hilarious to get someone riled up then watch them spin their wheels setting something up. I did that in warcraft/starcraft/poker.

you were jisoo right? is that what this was about?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54/...bag-middle-stakes-talentedtom-228329/

No. That was different. I was angry and issued a challenge I never intended to honor (or I'd honor it until I lost a pot or got tilted). I knew that it wouldn't be accepted either. So I got off a little steam and laughed a little.

The times I'm talking about are usually where I'm responding and get the other dude to issue HU challenges or 1v1s. They'd set up tables and keep asking why I'm not joining. Pretty funny.

this isn't anything to be proud of.

tom's always been a pretty cool dude as far as i could tell, don't even see why someone would do any of this. i guess u r just either not particularly smart or just a sad individual.

you are clearly someone of very low character if you are purposefully issuing challenges you never intend on honoring.

Clearly.

gl with this marshall, but he 100% won't play you and definitely is doing the pansy move of offering high(ish?) stakes because inside he hopes you'll back down from them.

i understand your frustrations but everyone who has a clue knows the guy is a pansy and is terrified of playing competent people so your efforts are probably in vain.

and...

you rly dont know who joe rogan is wtf?

thx nolan

i know the chances he plays are very small, so i wasn't really worried about it either way. the point of this was i keep my rep and he looks bad in front of a lot of people for trying to scare me into backing down when he rly had no intention of playing either way. it obviously shows to anyone w/ half a brain that he cares how good other people think he is but isn't willing to prove it and look even worse if he's wrong and loses--otherwise why bother w/ some stupid charade like this? this way i can expose him, so whether he accepts or not it seems like a win to me.

ofc i know who he is, i was joking