chris United States. Jun 25 2012 15:45. Posts 5503
On June 25 2012 11:23 Achoo wrote:
Chris, don't you think that some fat people reach excellency in many domains ? It would contradict your theory about discipline and willpower ?
i should have clarified - my fault. i meant the discipline and willpower relative to exercise and diet - not everything else. and while it is a generalized statement, there will obviously be exception
thank you for pointing that out
5 minute showers are my 8 minute abs. - Neilly
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chris United States. Jun 25 2012 16:02. Posts 5503
also to Uick - thanks, i didnt think you were breaking or shooting down my point. i think both of our points kind of build on each other, even if they are a little different.
i used to be an athlete, then i gained significant weight when i adopted a sedentary lifestyle after a knee injury , poker, and weed. im trying to get into a routine of exercising again.
i dont think anyone should hate on tutz either. i didnt see his original post, but who cares. the vast majority of the world base nearly everything on appearance- be it in a person's character, a car's performance, a business, school, everything. so for someone to have judgements for a friend, sexual partner, etc based on physical appearance and fitness is not really such a horrible thing. if anything, it would seem to me that it is only natural to have these types of views. i think it takes a bit of a higher understanding, or nobility, if you will, to look past a purely physical appearance.
i mean, when you see someone from across a room- you dont know he/she is a chess master, or a playboy millionaire, or a poker pro, or a gas station clerk, etc. lawyers dress like they do because they want people to know they are lawyers and think they are badass, rich and successful by appearance.
tutz just made a natural assumption/judgement based on his personal experience. he deleted his post because he is obviously ashamed of it. this is forgivable
can't believe i posted this many times in tutz blog though
5 minute showers are my 8 minute abs. - Neilly
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EvilSky Czech Republic. Jun 25 2012 16:06. Posts 8915
I actually like fat people but be as open minded as you like morbidly obese people are disgusting, enough is enough.
-I'm judgemental towards fat people, and I'm not proud of it
-I dont have good fat friends
-I think most fat people have a lot of issues, either what causes them to be fat (too lazy to even take care or their body for example) or/and
-issues caused by their fatness (low self-steem for example)
-I don't feel attraction to fat girls and I wouldnt like mine to become a fat girl cause I love her with my whole heart, but I dont think I could love a fat girl
Things I would like to add:
-I don't hate fat people
-I never shared this thought with anyone other than my girlfriend. It is not something to go around saying and I'm not proud of this. So I thought I could generate some dicussion here.
-Going to the gym is a big part of my life loooong before becoming a model. I dont think I ever missed a month out of the gym since I'm 15. And I was into sports since ever.
-The model world is fucked up. It is hard to make good friends, people a very very shallow (maybe myself included?). I get invited almost everyday to have dinner in fancy places, for free. Every nightclub let me in for free and gives me at least 5 free drinks plus food is available. I got a VIP ticket to the lady gaga show, for free. I will be paid $700 to go to the WHITE SENSATION THAILAND (its a huge awesome rave). It is just too easy. Now imagine how this fucks up ones mind. Makes you think you are better than others because of your looks, you expect people to give you free shit all the time. And when all this looks goes away what is left is only what you got inside, but how to adapt? Imagine all this young pretty girls, how their mind is gonna be in 20 years from now. Its so fucked up.
On June 25 2012 15:45 tutz wrote:
hey guys, watch this video, you can clearly see that one of my friends is fat.
YAY!
1. I didn't see anyone that fat in that video
2. You just verified some Brasilian stereotypes for me. Well done.
I'm curious. What are those stereotypes?
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Jun 25 2012 18:00. Posts 5296
thanks for sharing your thoughts tutz, i'm beginning to understand why you think the way you think now.
@trolala. Most fat people do not choose to be fat. They are fat because of bad habbits and bad environments. You'd be fat too given the right circumstances.
One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beings
On June 25 2012 17:22 whamm! wrote:
hey guys, how about ugly people? their lives must suck eh?
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HeRoS)eNGagE Canada. Jun 25 2012 20:47. Posts 10896
On June 25 2012 17:00 Stroggoz wrote:
thanks for sharing your thoughts tutz, i'm beginning to understand why you think the way you think now.
@trolala. Most fat people do not choose to be fat. They are fat because of bad habbits and bad environments. You'd be fat too given the right circumstances.
alot of people are poor because of bad habbits and abd environments
lets stay poor and do nothing about it! ''its not my fault''
tsss
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Jun 25 2012 22:11. Posts 5296
On June 25 2012 17:00 Stroggoz wrote:
thanks for sharing your thoughts tutz, i'm beginning to understand why you think the way you think now.
@trolala. Most fat people do not choose to be fat. They are fat because of bad habbits and bad environments. You'd be fat too given the right circumstances.
alot of people are poor because of bad habbits and abd environments
lets stay poor and do nothing about it! ''its not my fault''
tsss
i wasn't advocating that people should go about in pity for themselves if that's what you thought. why does everyone assume that?
when i start thinking about philosophy like determinism and the factor of luck on human life, i find it very hard to hate other human beings, i just assume the human being is what i could be.
Anyway, i just don't believe people have any choice in anything. That's why i disagreed with trolala when he said it's a stupid decision to be a fat person. My lack of belief in free will does not mean i or anyone should go around blaming their life on it. just try to be an awesome person, and try to improve your life as much as you can obviously.
One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beings
On June 25 2012 13:21 gawdawaful wrote:
Nice blog to stumble upon while lying in bed eating a can of chips with my laptop on my belly
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On June 25 2012 10:43 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
did not see the thread but im on your side when you say '' its about health , not look ''
im amazed everytime i see a very fat person... its sick how people dont care about their health... and when i see a family of fat people im sad for the kids
not only it suck for his health but people gona laugh at him at school
this was basically op's sentiment and he got flamed for it
On June 25 2012 12:43 sniderstyle wrote:
As a person who has lost over 100 pounds I know what it is to be fat and less fat.
I believe one of the main contributing factors of me being obese all my life is my upbringing.
I grew up
A) Poor
B) Without any functioning parents ( one absent , one alcoholic)
While there were a few people that helped me adolescents, I essentially had to grow up myself.
Food wasn't exactly easy to get and the most unhealthy food is the cheapest.
I grew up with no discipline/ no one to tell me what to do, what not to eat
That coupled with an addictive personality genetically makes that sweet sweet sugar so much sweeter.
Eventually I got to the point where I was fatter than loveable las vegas comedian staple Louie Anderson. We took a picture together and when I was bigger than him , I knew I had to change.
IT wasn't until then that I even felt motivated at all to change.
My mentality was that of Independence. I remember thinking these gym jockeys were wasting their lives/hours working towards something as insignificatn as beauty when there are so many more valuable things in life
1. treating others well,
2. living for the moment
3. taking care of your bussiness
Those were my priorities but eventaully I started getting lonely
And all the girls I hung out with passed me over for my "douchebag goodlooking" friends
And I realized that the world doesn't work on personality or my personality wasn't as charismatic as I thought it was
So that was another motivational factor ( probably the only one that really matters at all)
I then educated myself/ asked lots of questions/ and went to the gym
The first 6 months were horrible cause I had never been active in my entire life and I was really heavy. I would get shin splints and I physically couldn't excersize because I was so much pain. After months of pain I found less impactful excersizes (such as the ellipitcal) and that made so I could actually physically do something worthwhile.
I also discovered that in losing weight ( at least when you're super heavy) its like 85% diet. Onced I changed my diet, the pounds just flew off.
Now I'm at the point where I go to the gyjm 5-6 times a week and play full court basketball close to everyday. Now when I go to the gym, I look forward to it because it puts me in a much better mood for the day. I work hard for about an hour, then I sweat in the sauna and when I'm done with teh Sauana my mind just feels clear adn I'm happy and things are easier. ( compared to my initial impression of people who go to the gym "gym jockerys who are obbessess with how they look - I was quite wrong " )
It changes you physically and mentally and makes things more peaceful.
I never told anyone I was trying to lose weight, I just did it.
I don't think anyone should hate fat people. Because we're good people, we're much funnier, clever, and nicer because we have to be. Only good looking people can be assholes as evident by the original poster.
great post, i think it was just ignorance on op's part, but and he seems to be an open minded person. i think proof like this is fine but your last comment is somewhat unnecessary
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PuertoRican United States. Jun 25 2012 23:28. Posts 13044
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