On June 25 2012 05:24 SoC wrote:
I'd rather spend my life caring about enjoying it rather than getting gym time in that I don't enjoy. I don't care about how I look to please you
If you go to the gym it doesnt mean you are not enjoying life man, wtf? It is 1 hour a day you will spend to improve you health, it is not about the looks.
It means you're a superficial person that doesn't take interests in people behind the surface. First let me say that I'm not fat to start with but I don't judge a fat person b/c he or she's fat, that person could actually bring a lot more in my life than good looking people and tbh it's often the case. People with great appearances are most of the time narcissic and egoïst, of course I'm not making a general statement although I think you fit in this category, you probably love yourself and spend time kissing your biceps in front of the mirror amirite ? Anyway i don't know you so that's my 2 cents ...
BUT on the other hand, some good looking people actually have a real personality and wear their beauty like a panther wears its fur, it is natural and non artificial and well I guess they won the genetic lottery, good for them. Being beautiful and having a beautiful personality is also true, that's my contention. The usual "they don't take care of their bodies therefore they're lazy, uninteresting, etc" argument is dumb and judgemental, some eating disorders are proved to be linked to many external factors and a fat person is not more lazy or uninteresting than a "normal" person.
But I think you're too young and too dumb to realize it yet, enjoy your youth and your young body while it lasts, but if I were you I'd stop judging people and open my mind a little bit...
Odds are exactly 50%: it either happens or not
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SoC   United Kingdom. Jun 25 2012 06:46. Posts 999
On June 25 2012 05:24 SoC wrote:
I'd rather spend my life caring about enjoying it rather than getting gym time in that I don't enjoy. I don't care about how I look to please you
If you go to the gym it doesnt mean you are not enjoying life man, wtf? It is 1 hour a day you will spend to improve you health, it is not about the looks.
That's 360hours a year excluding travel time to and back from gym. So about 15days a year wasted. Rather spend 15days eating chocolate cake
On June 25 2012 05:24 SoC wrote:
I'd rather spend my life caring about enjoying it rather than getting gym time in that I don't enjoy. I don't care about how I look to please you
If you go to the gym it doesnt mean you are not enjoying life man, wtf? It is 1 hour a day you will spend to improve you health, it is not about the looks.
That's 360hours a year excluding travel time to and back from gym. So about 15days a year wasted. Rather spend 15days eating chocolate cake
hmm I understand. it is your choice, and you are aware of the consequences.
Last edit: 25/06/2012 06:51
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Nazgul   Netherlands. Jun 25 2012 07:05. Posts 7080
Let's see here. "I don't have any fat friends"
Your conclusion: Fat people are pretty uncool. Most obvious conclusion: You are pretty uncool.
Open up your mind there are plenty of amazing people out there who can't, or don't want to, control themselves in one way or another.
This whole blog is like a big rant discriminating a group of people.
I have to say that I'm talking about young people here, when it comes to fat older (over 40) ppl things are very different.
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MiPwnYa   Brasil. Jun 25 2012 07:07. Posts 5230
Its good you try to rationalize your prejudices on fat people cause they obv show how intolerant, shallow and ignorant you are/were, and you seem to realize that. I used to hate fat people too and I feel extremely ashamed for having ever felt that way (Im not fat btw lol). I think you first need to acknowledge that not everybody has the same life view and criterions of "success" and "happiness" than you, and you obv evolve in an area where looks matter very much which sadly affects the way you perceive and think things through.. Anyways, not wanting to have a fat girlfriend dsnt have anything to do with not being able to like fat people in a friendly manner. Sexual attraction is an important dimension in an amorous relationship, it's not in your regular m/m friendship (unless youre hiding in teh closet but it dsnt seem to be the case) . So dont feel silly about not wanting your gf to be fat, thats a personal sexual preference of yours, but do feel like a moron for not liking obese or fat people before knowing them. Not to mention genetics have quite a big part in that too. Not sure im making any sense right now but whatever
Deixa os gordos comerem torresmo a milanesa porra
Thanks for the insight guys. I think I had to remove this since it was going the wrong way. I will open my mind to this matter and understand it better. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, wasnt my intention really. I know there are a lot of awesome fat ppl out there.
Peace.
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okyougosu   Russian Federation. Jun 25 2012 07:43. Posts 963
There are lots of people not smart enough to take care of their health, however having your health bar in green is most important in your life. Even wild animals are able to stay in shape using their only instincts. Human beings have a brain up there, it basically overcomes instincts and unfortunately don't have common sense also. I have fat friend with very good personality and i warned him many times about things like low percentage chance of surviving zombie apocalypse and higher chance of getting heart attack during sexytime, but for some reason he is more into playing video games/car stuff/chocolate cakes/spending time on work to make money in his 30s.
Me myself was unhealthy as a kid, i worked hard to change that and succeeded, feeling very good since teenage. Conclusion is being fat is as bad as wearing gay white coat, but not willing to be healthier is much much worse
Lammerman
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Mariuslol   Norway. Jun 25 2012 07:43. Posts 4742
I've "experienced" a lot of the oposite, I'm extremly skinny. And it gets tiresome getting asked why I'm so skinny after awhile, and people seem to put me in a booth.
To me it seems impossible to get fat, and when I see slightly overweight people, I really want to try and get some tips. So hard to get a bit chubby. Don't want too chubby, but just a little cosy, that'd be perfect xD
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okyougosu   Russian Federation. Jun 25 2012 07:53. Posts 963
Why would u want to remove correct sentences, there were no discriminating words at all. Like if i post "Jews love money" = no discriminating, while "lets burn some j" would be
kingpowa   France. Jun 25 2012 08:59. Posts 1525
On June 25 2012 06:07 MiPwnYa wrote:
Deixa os gordos comerem torresmo a milanesa porra
I got porra (which may be the most important word here), gordos, comerem, and I guess i understand milanesa. But I don't get the whole thing !
sorry for shitty english.
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whamm!   Albania. Jun 25 2012 09:25. Posts 11625
fat people are funny. i hate fat comedians trying to lose weight
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Mortensen8   Chad. Jun 25 2012 10:50. Posts 1841
On June 25 2012 05:24 SoC wrote:
I'd rather spend my life caring about enjoying it rather than getting gym time in that I don't enjoy. I don't care about how I look to please you
Eh no you will feel better overall if you exercise and eat healthy.
going to the "gym" is not the only way to do exercise nor the best.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
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Endo   United States. Jun 25 2012 11:32. Posts 953
lol regardless of whether I like someone or not, people who are fat give me the distinct impression that they don't care for their own well-being. It reflects on themselves.
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HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Jun 25 2012 11:43. Posts 10896
did not see the thread but im on your side when you say '' its about health , not look ''
im amazed everytime i see a very fat person... its sick how people dont care about their health... and when i see a family of fat people im sad for the kids
not only it suck for his health but people gona laugh at him at school
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BiNK   United States. Jun 25 2012 11:46. Posts 302
I did not see his original post nor do I know Tutz in any manner but I do appreciate that having discipline to do any sort of exercise, whether it be like going for a mile run, jog, or even walk, should be a priority for some people. Our bodies are such fragile things and it should be of some importance to try and preserve the small amount of time we have. You don't have to have huge muscles, be a model like tutz and his girl, but simple exercise is very achievable by most people and it's a shame that people do not take more advantage of the time they could spend doing like a 10-20 minute exercise routine.
On June 25 2012 10:32 Endo wrote:
lol regardless of whether I like someone or not, people who are fat give me the distinct impression that they don't care for their own well-being. It reflects on themselves.
lol regardless of whether I like someone or not, people who are judgmental give me the distinct impression that they are insecure. It reflects on themselves.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
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dnagardi   Hungary. Jun 25 2012 12:05. Posts 1776
On June 25 2012 10:32 Endo wrote:
lol regardless of whether I like someone or not, people who are fat give me the distinct impression that they don't care for their own well-being. It reflects on themselves.
lol regardless of whether I like someone or not, people who are judgmental give me the distinct impression that they are insecure. It reflects on themselves.
this
also rofl at deleting the blog, dont be a pussy tutz, accept the reactions for your actions
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chris   United States. Jun 25 2012 12:11. Posts 5503
its mind boggling that a model would be concerned with physical appearance
i think the majority of fat people wish they were not fat but do not have the willpower and discipline to exercise and eat right - it is just easier to keep doing what they are doing.
there is probably a correlation between self esteem and obesity - i would bet that the majority of over weight or fat people probably have lower than average self esteem and worth.
i like tutz - but i think it would be funny for a photoshop of a fat tutz
Chris, don't you think that some fat people reach excellency in many domains ? It would contradict your theory about discipline and willpower ?
Odds are exactly 50%: it either happens or not
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idonklife   Sweden. Jun 25 2012 12:25. Posts 182
^ level 80 warlock doesn't count really
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okyougosu   Russian Federation. Jun 25 2012 12:35. Posts 963
On June 25 2012 07:18 Achoo wrote:
Or if I post "Russians are ignorant drunkards" ?
Is that because Canada is always end up second best at hockey or because someone here is jewish and use mirror to see his dick?
Lammerman
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BiNK   United States. Jun 25 2012 12:58. Posts 302
On June 25 2012 11:11 chris wrote:
its mind boggling that a model would be concerned with physical appearance
i think the majority of fat people wish they were not fat but do not have the willpower and discipline to exercise and eat right - it is just easier to keep doing what they are doing.
there is probably a correlation between self esteem and obesity - i would bet that the majority of over weight or fat people probably have lower than average self esteem and worth.
i like tutz - but i think it would be funny for a photoshop of a fat tutz
On June 25 2012 11:11 chris wrote:
its mind boggling that a model would be concerned with physical appearance
i think the majority of fat people wish they were not fat but do not have the willpower and discipline to exercise and eat right - it is just easier to keep doing what they are doing.
there is probably a correlation between self esteem and obesity - i would bet that the majority of over weight or fat people probably have lower than average self esteem and worth.
i like tutz - but i think it would be funny for a photoshop of a fat tutz
i think the correlation is not as important since self esteem and obesity are results of something else (trauma or gene pool), which is influenced by environment and gene pool. If your environment is fat food, big quantities, "addictive" food (sugar/salt addictions): that can cause high level of obesity. i think the correlation between american "food" environment (economically, america depends on "fattening" products, and fast food restaurants) and high level of obesity, is much more important.
Self esteem is usually the result of another action. Majority of people have self esteem issues, and IMO is part of development of our "own" individual character. I don't know one person, succeffull or not, who hasn't have/had self esteem issues. Everyone deals with them differently, but if your environment is a heavy exposure any "drug", be it fast food, alcohol, opium or whatever, majority of people with some sort of self esteem problem will have high probability of turning towards that drug to "band-aid" the pain due to self esteem issue.
Eating food compulsively is no different then playing video games compulsively or working compulsively, since IMO they can all be self destructive behavior.
i also don't see the correlation between net worth and "self destructive" behavior, since i can say also that : i would bet that the majority of cokeheads probably have lower than average self esteem and higherworth.
just adding to your post chris, not trying to shoot it down.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
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Mariuslol   Norway. Jun 25 2012 13:41. Posts 4742
On June 25 2012 11:25 idonklife wrote:
^ level 80 warlock doesn't count really
you might think its funny but the real reason i opted to play is because im not dumb
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sniderstyle   United States. Jun 25 2012 13:43. Posts 2046
As a person who has lost over 100 pounds I know what it is to be fat and less fat.
I believe one of the main contributing factors of me being obese all my life is my upbringing.
I grew up
A) Poor
B) Without any functioning parents ( one absent , one alcoholic)
While there were a few people that helped me adolescents, I essentially had to grow up myself.
Food wasn't exactly easy to get and the most unhealthy food is the cheapest.
I grew up with no discipline/ no one to tell me what to do, what not to eat
That coupled with an addictive personality genetically makes that sweet sweet sugar so much sweeter.
Eventually I got to the point where I was fatter than loveable las vegas comedian staple Louie Anderson. We took a picture together and when I was bigger than him , I knew I had to change.
IT wasn't until then that I even felt motivated at all to change.
My mentality was that of Independence. I remember thinking these gym jockeys were wasting their lives/hours working towards something as insignificatn as beauty when there are so many more valuable things in life
1. treating others well,
2. living for the moment
3. taking care of your bussiness
Those were my priorities but eventaully I started getting lonely
And all the girls I hung out with passed me over for my "douchebag goodlooking" friends
And I realized that the world doesn't work on personality or my personality wasn't as charismatic as I thought it was
So that was another motivational factor ( probably the only one that really matters at all)
I then educated myself/ asked lots of questions/ and went to the gym
The first 6 months were horrible cause I had never been active in my entire life and I was really heavy. I would get shin splints and I physically couldn't excersize because I was so much pain. After months of pain I found less impactful excersizes (such as the ellipitcal) and that made so I could actually physically do something worthwhile.
I also discovered that in losing weight ( at least when you're super heavy) its like 85% diet. Onced I changed my diet, the pounds just flew off.
Now I'm at the point where I go to the gyjm 5-6 times a week and play full court basketball close to everyday. Now when I go to the gym, I look forward to it because it puts me in a much better mood for the day. I work hard for about an hour, then I sweat in the sauna and when I'm done with teh Sauana my mind just feels clear adn I'm happy and things are easier. ( compared to my initial impression of people who go to the gym "gym jockerys who are obbessess with how they look - I was quite wrong " )
It changes you physically and mentally and makes things more peaceful.
I never told anyone I was trying to lose weight, I just did it.
I don't think anyone should hate fat people. Because we're good people, we're much funnier, clever, and nicer because we have to be. Only good looking people can be assholes as evident by the original poster.
Genginho: lose today 100 dollar only because of fishs they called and had luck on river
Last edit: 25/06/2012 13:46
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ciachooooo   Vatican City State. Jun 25 2012 14:12. Posts 335
On June 25 2012 12:43 sniderstyle wrote:
As a person who has lost over 100 pounds I know what it is to be fat and less fat.
I believe one of the main contributing factors of me being obese all my life is my upbringing.
I grew up
A) Poor
B) Without any functioning parents ( one absent , one alcoholic)
While there were a few people that helped me adolescents, I essentially had to grow up myself.
Food wasn't exactly easy to get and the most unhealthy food is the cheapest.
I grew up with no discipline/ no one to tell me what to do, what not to eat
That coupled with an addictive personality genetically makes that sweet sweet sugar so much sweeter.
Eventually I got to the point where I was fatter than loveable las vegas comedian staple Louie Anderson. We took a picture together and when I was bigger than him , I knew I had to change.
IT wasn't until then that I even felt motivated at all to change.
My mentality was that of Independence. I remember thinking these gym jockeys were wasting their lives/hours working towards something as insignificatn as beauty when there are so many more valuable things in life
1. treating others well,
2. living for the moment
3. taking care of your bussiness
Those were my priorities but eventaully I started getting lonely
And all the girls I hung out with passed me over for my "douchebag goodlooking" friends
And I realized that the world doesn't work on personality or my personality wasn't as charismatic as I thought it was
So that was another motivational factor ( probably the only one that really matters at all)
I then educated myself/ asked lots of questions/ and went to the gym
The first 6 months were horrible cause I had never been active in my entire life and I was really heavy. I would get shin splints and I physically couldn't excersize because I was so much pain. After months of pain I found less impactful excersizes (such as the ellipitcal) and that made so I could actually physically do something worthwhile.
I also discovered that in losing weight ( at least when you're super heavy) its like 85% diet. Onced I changed my diet, the pounds just flew off.
Now I'm at the point where I go to the gyjm 5-6 times a week and play full court basketball close to everyday. Now when I go to the gym, I look forward to it because it puts me in a much better mood for the day. I work hard for about an hour, then I sweat in the sauna and when I'm done with teh Sauana my mind just feels clear adn I'm happy and things are easier. ( compared to my initial impression of people who go to the gym "gym jockerys who are obbessess with how they look - I was quite wrong " )
It changes you physically and mentally and makes things more peaceful.
I never told anyone I was trying to lose weight, I just did it.
I don't think anyone should hate fat people. Because we're good people, we're much funnier, clever, and nicer because we have to be. Only good looking people can be assholes as evident by the original poster.
v nice post, especially the ending
The room is so quiet you can hear Stanko saying to himself, I am the best player.
Last edit: 25/06/2012 14:12
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gawdawaful   Canada. Jun 25 2012 14:21. Posts 9012
Nice blog to stumble upon while lying in bed eating a can of chips with my laptop on my belly
Im only good at poker when I run good
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 25 2012 14:22. Posts 9634
You cant just make a blog w name "Fat people" and then delete everything to "nevermind" wtf OP!
On June 25 2012 10:32 Endo wrote:
lol regardless of whether I like someone or not, people who are fat give me the distinct impression that they don't care for their own well-being. It reflects on themselves.
lol regardless of whether I like someone or not, people who are judgmental give me the distinct impression that they are insecure. It reflects on themselves.
Sorry dude but its not exactly the best thing to be riding on a bus next to a fatass guy that can easily take both seats and smells like shit. Somehow its not one of the things i could handle during the summer. Its disgusting and i dont see how i look insecure from this point of view. Running 1hr/day every 2nd/3rd day isnt exactly time consuming and it will do wonders to such people. And the thing with the bus just happened to me 3 days ago as i was forced to ride like that for 2 hours i have no idea how i didnt throw up .... Overally you are right we have no right to judge anyone, but literally wasting their motor skills just cause one cant realize its time for a change is something both sad and stupid
Last edit: 25/06/2012 14:29
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okyougosu   Russian Federation. Jun 25 2012 14:38. Posts 963
Its not about rage hating fatasses its about feeling sorry for them bc of the mentioned reasons. Just imagine how crappy the world would be in case there are only fat chicks around would cause sick population decrease worldwide
Lammerman
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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Jun 25 2012 15:00. Posts 5108
People handle insulin different.
Carbohydrate drives insulin drives fat
:D
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chris   United States. Jun 25 2012 15:45. Posts 5503
On June 25 2012 11:23 Achoo wrote:
Chris, don't you think that some fat people reach excellency in many domains ? It would contradict your theory about discipline and willpower ?
i should have clarified - my fault. i meant the discipline and willpower relative to exercise and diet - not everything else. and while it is a generalized statement, there will obviously be exception
thank you for pointing that out
5 minute showers are my 8 minute abs. - Neilly
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chris   United States. Jun 25 2012 16:02. Posts 5503
also to Uick - thanks, i didnt think you were breaking or shooting down my point. i think both of our points kind of build on each other, even if they are a little different.
i used to be an athlete, then i gained significant weight when i adopted a sedentary lifestyle after a knee injury , poker, and weed. im trying to get into a routine of exercising again.
i dont think anyone should hate on tutz either. i didnt see his original post, but who cares. the vast majority of the world base nearly everything on appearance- be it in a person's character, a car's performance, a business, school, everything. so for someone to have judgements for a friend, sexual partner, etc based on physical appearance and fitness is not really such a horrible thing. if anything, it would seem to me that it is only natural to have these types of views. i think it takes a bit of a higher understanding, or nobility, if you will, to look past a purely physical appearance.
i mean, when you see someone from across a room- you dont know he/she is a chess master, or a playboy millionaire, or a poker pro, or a gas station clerk, etc. lawyers dress like they do because they want people to know they are lawyers and think they are badass, rich and successful by appearance.
tutz just made a natural assumption/judgement based on his personal experience. he deleted his post because he is obviously ashamed of it. this is forgivable
can't believe i posted this many times in tutz blog though
5 minute showers are my 8 minute abs. - Neilly
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EvilSky   Czech Republic. Jun 25 2012 16:06. Posts 8915
I actually like fat people but be as open minded as you like morbidly obese people are disgusting, enough is enough.
-I'm judgemental towards fat people, and I'm not proud of it
-I dont have good fat friends
-I think most fat people have a lot of issues, either what causes them to be fat (too lazy to even take care or their body for example) or/and
-issues caused by their fatness (low self-steem for example)
-I don't feel attraction to fat girls and I wouldnt like mine to become a fat girl cause I love her with my whole heart, but I dont think I could love a fat girl
Things I would like to add:
-I don't hate fat people
-I never shared this thought with anyone other than my girlfriend. It is not something to go around saying and I'm not proud of this. So I thought I could generate some dicussion here.
-Going to the gym is a big part of my life loooong before becoming a model. I dont think I ever missed a month out of the gym since I'm 15. And I was into sports since ever.
-The model world is fucked up. It is hard to make good friends, people a very very shallow (maybe myself included?). I get invited almost everyday to have dinner in fancy places, for free. Every nightclub let me in for free and gives me at least 5 free drinks plus food is available. I got a VIP ticket to the lady gaga show, for free. I will be paid $700 to go to the WHITE SENSATION THAILAND (its a huge awesome rave). It is just too easy. Now imagine how this fucks up ones mind. Makes you think you are better than others because of your looks, you expect people to give you free shit all the time. And when all this looks goes away what is left is only what you got inside, but how to adapt? Imagine all this young pretty girls, how their mind is gonna be in 20 years from now. Its so fucked up.
On June 25 2012 15:45 tutz wrote:
hey guys, watch this video, you can clearly see that one of my friends is fat.
YAY!
1. I didn't see anyone that fat in that video
2. You just verified some Brasilian stereotypes for me. Well done.
I'm curious. What are those stereotypes?
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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jun 25 2012 18:00. Posts 5296
thanks for sharing your thoughts tutz, i'm beginning to understand why you think the way you think now.
@trolala. Most fat people do not choose to be fat. They are fat because of bad habbits and bad environments. You'd be fat too given the right circumstances.
One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beings
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whamm!   Albania. Jun 25 2012 18:22. Posts 11625
hey guys, how about ugly people? their lives must suck eh?
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K40Cheddar   United States. Jun 25 2012 18:43. Posts 2202
On June 25 2012 17:22 whamm! wrote:
hey guys, how about ugly people? their lives must suck eh?
Now imagine if you're fat, ugly, mexican and gay ! Oh wait sorry Baal ...
Odds are exactly 50%: it either happens or not
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 25 2012 20:06. Posts 9634
On June 25 2012 17:22 whamm! wrote:
hey guys, how about ugly people? their lives must suck eh?
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HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Jun 25 2012 20:47. Posts 10896
On June 25 2012 17:00 Stroggoz wrote:
thanks for sharing your thoughts tutz, i'm beginning to understand why you think the way you think now.
@trolala. Most fat people do not choose to be fat. They are fat because of bad habbits and bad environments. You'd be fat too given the right circumstances.
alot of people are poor because of bad habbits and abd environments
lets stay poor and do nothing about it! ''its not my fault''
tsss
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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jun 25 2012 22:11. Posts 5296
On June 25 2012 17:00 Stroggoz wrote:
thanks for sharing your thoughts tutz, i'm beginning to understand why you think the way you think now.
@trolala. Most fat people do not choose to be fat. They are fat because of bad habbits and bad environments. You'd be fat too given the right circumstances.
alot of people are poor because of bad habbits and abd environments
lets stay poor and do nothing about it! ''its not my fault''
tsss
i wasn't advocating that people should go about in pity for themselves if that's what you thought. why does everyone assume that?
when i start thinking about philosophy like determinism and the factor of luck on human life, i find it very hard to hate other human beings, i just assume the human being is what i could be.
Anyway, i just don't believe people have any choice in anything. That's why i disagreed with trolala when he said it's a stupid decision to be a fat person. My lack of belief in free will does not mean i or anyone should go around blaming their life on it. just try to be an awesome person, and try to improve your life as much as you can obviously.
One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beings
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mnj   United States. Jun 25 2012 22:17. Posts 3848
On June 25 2012 13:21 gawdawaful wrote:
Nice blog to stumble upon while lying in bed eating a can of chips with my laptop on my belly
LOLOLOLOLOLLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLLO
On June 25 2012 10:43 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
did not see the thread but im on your side when you say '' its about health , not look ''
im amazed everytime i see a very fat person... its sick how people dont care about their health... and when i see a family of fat people im sad for the kids
not only it suck for his health but people gona laugh at him at school
this was basically op's sentiment and he got flamed for it
On June 25 2012 12:43 sniderstyle wrote:
As a person who has lost over 100 pounds I know what it is to be fat and less fat.
I believe one of the main contributing factors of me being obese all my life is my upbringing.
I grew up
A) Poor
B) Without any functioning parents ( one absent , one alcoholic)
While there were a few people that helped me adolescents, I essentially had to grow up myself.
Food wasn't exactly easy to get and the most unhealthy food is the cheapest.
I grew up with no discipline/ no one to tell me what to do, what not to eat
That coupled with an addictive personality genetically makes that sweet sweet sugar so much sweeter.
Eventually I got to the point where I was fatter than loveable las vegas comedian staple Louie Anderson. We took a picture together and when I was bigger than him , I knew I had to change.
IT wasn't until then that I even felt motivated at all to change.
My mentality was that of Independence. I remember thinking these gym jockeys were wasting their lives/hours working towards something as insignificatn as beauty when there are so many more valuable things in life
1. treating others well,
2. living for the moment
3. taking care of your bussiness
Those were my priorities but eventaully I started getting lonely
And all the girls I hung out with passed me over for my "douchebag goodlooking" friends
And I realized that the world doesn't work on personality or my personality wasn't as charismatic as I thought it was
So that was another motivational factor ( probably the only one that really matters at all)
I then educated myself/ asked lots of questions/ and went to the gym
The first 6 months were horrible cause I had never been active in my entire life and I was really heavy. I would get shin splints and I physically couldn't excersize because I was so much pain. After months of pain I found less impactful excersizes (such as the ellipitcal) and that made so I could actually physically do something worthwhile.
I also discovered that in losing weight ( at least when you're super heavy) its like 85% diet. Onced I changed my diet, the pounds just flew off.
Now I'm at the point where I go to the gyjm 5-6 times a week and play full court basketball close to everyday. Now when I go to the gym, I look forward to it because it puts me in a much better mood for the day. I work hard for about an hour, then I sweat in the sauna and when I'm done with teh Sauana my mind just feels clear adn I'm happy and things are easier. ( compared to my initial impression of people who go to the gym "gym jockerys who are obbessess with how they look - I was quite wrong " )
It changes you physically and mentally and makes things more peaceful.
I never told anyone I was trying to lose weight, I just did it.
I don't think anyone should hate fat people. Because we're good people, we're much funnier, clever, and nicer because we have to be. Only good looking people can be assholes as evident by the original poster.
great post, i think it was just ignorance on op's part, but and he seems to be an open minded person. i think proof like this is fine but your last comment is somewhat unnecessary
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 25 2012 23:28. Posts 13044
Rekrul is fat, but I still love him.
Rekrul is a newb
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El_Tanque   United States. Jun 26 2012 02:09. Posts 360
fuck i wish i was in before edit.
fail
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goose58   United States. Jun 26 2012 05:48. Posts 871
Fat people are basically drug addicts. It's hard to give full respect to someone who doesn't respect themselves.
Also I disagree with the guy in here who states that all fat people are funny/sociable/good people. I've seen dumb, asshole fat people and very kind, funny beautiful people.
There are many, many reasons to exercise and eat healthy. Very few reasons not to.
I'll leave you guys with a quote from Socrates(he's pretty much never wrong):
No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training...what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.
Socrates (469 - 399 BC)
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kingpowa   France. Jun 26 2012 07:16. Posts 1525
On June 26 2012 04:48 goose58 wrote:
I'll leave you guys with a quote from Socrates(he's pretty much never wrong):
No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training...what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.
Socrates (469 - 399 BC)
really ? applying a societal quote from 2400 years ago ?
sorry for shitty english.
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2c0ntent   Egypt. Jun 26 2012 07:53. Posts 1387
I think that is a pretty solid quote, I hadn't heard it before but it represents one of the reasons that I began exercising again. Not sure if it should be a law or anything.. ;o
engage
when i see a family of fat people im sad for the kids
not only it suck for his health but people gona laugh at him at school
this 100x. really makes me furious when I see truly fat children.
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 26 2012 08:38. Posts 9634
On June 25 2012 17:00 Stroggoz wrote:
thanks for sharing your thoughts tutz, i'm beginning to understand why you think the way you think now.
@trolala. Most fat people do not choose to be fat. They are fat because of bad habbits and bad environments. You'd be fat too given the right circumstances.
alot of people are poor because of bad habbits and abd environments
lets stay poor and do nothing about it! ''its not my fault''
tsss
Thats far from true, even in the most optimal enviroment where every human being strives for progress in form of $ with our current system the majority of the planet's population will still be poor. The whole system must be changed which is kind of harder than going to the gym or jogging
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kingpowa   France. Jun 26 2012 08:42. Posts 1525
In his quote, he is referring to citizen. Citizens were a small part of the population of Greece, they were the one in charge of society, leading the "polis". And they had nothing else to do than this.
Slavery permitted slaveowners to have substantial free time, and enabled participation in public life.[17] Polis citizenship was marked by exclusivity. Inequality of status was widespread; citizens had a higher status than non-citizens, such as women, slaves or barbarians.
I prefer Séma Sôma as a greek quote. Sôma standing for the body, and Séma for the soul. And it would mean that the body is a tomb for the soul. So that one should not "listen" to his body but to his soul. Pythagorre and other ascetics would apply this.
sorry for shitty english.
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HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Jun 26 2012 09:25. Posts 10896
On June 25 2012 15:45 tutz wrote:
hey guys, watch this video, you can clearly see that one of my friends is fat.
YAY!
you are either the biggest troll on lp or the biggest moron ever
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goose58   United States. Jun 26 2012 09:51. Posts 871
On June 26 2012 07:42 kingpowa wrote:
In his quote, he is referring to citizen. Citizens were a small part of the population of Greece, they were the one in charge of society, leading the "polis". And they had nothing else to do than this.
Slavery permitted slaveowners to have substantial free time, and enabled participation in public life.[17] Polis citizenship was marked by exclusivity. Inequality of status was widespread; citizens had a higher status than non-citizens, such as women, slaves or barbarians.
I prefer Séma Sôma as a greek quote. Sôma standing for the body, and Séma for the soul. And it would mean that the body is a tomb for the soul. So that one should not "listen" to his body but to his soul. Pythagorre and other ascetics would apply this.
nit
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suited_mess   Poland. Jun 26 2012 13:43. Posts 93
I will go with the biggest moron for sure
well...
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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Jun 26 2012 15:32. Posts 5108
Sugar is more addictive than Heroin.
You hate on Heroin-abusers too or ?
:D
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Jun 26 2012 17:05. Posts 6374
tl;dr
i hate fat ppl, if u dont respect urself enough to reduce junk food and exercise now and then .. where r u goin with ur life? gtfo of my sight u lazy fat bastard
ban baal
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Jun 26 2012 17:06. Posts 6374
On June 26 2012 14:32 VanDerMeyde wrote:
Sugar is more addictive than Heroin.
You hate on Heroin-abusers too or ?
people don't really have open mind to understand how addictions affects everyone differently. Also (judging by the posts here) people have no clue the influence DNA has on our behaviors.
It's easy (and fucking retarded) to think that everything is possible with will power. (that's if your environment + education + genes even thought you what will power is).
It s cool guys, keep living in little world where everything can be understood through your own perception and if someone stopped eating badly, that means everyone can do it. Right?
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
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Graisseux   Canada. Jun 26 2012 21:21. Posts 474
On June 25 2012 12:43 sniderstyle wrote:
My mentality was that of Independence. I remember thinking these gym jockeys were wasting their lives/hours working towards something as insignificatn as beauty when there are so many more valuable things in life
1. treating others well,
2. living for the moment 3. taking care of your bussiness
Thanks for that post. Some people here need to turn 12 and learn to "take care of their fucking business".