Chicago False-Flag in May

Since many of you are Americans I believe the following information might be valuable in the upcoming days and months. Especially for those of you who live in or near Chicago.

There is a very high possibility that a false-flag (fabricated by the government) event will occur in Chicago, most probably this month. As in my “2012 London Olympics” thread, I just want to put the information out there and let everyone decide for themselves. The threat comes from the Elite calling themselves “The Illuminati” – the people behind 9/11 and 7/7 London Bombings. For those of you who haven’t read how I presented them (shortly) in the Olympics thread, which you can find here – http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/1039931/2012_London_Olympics.html – I will only say a few sentences to make everything else in this thread make more sense and if you want to dig deeper – the world wide web is full of information. If you are familiar with this secret society you can skip the next paragraph.

The Illuminati is a group of people that has many other names – Bilderberg Group, Freemasons, Zionists, The powers that be, Shadow Government and so on. There are some differences but they are not important now. The ring of power within the Illuminati is centered around the biggest international bankers and royalties and they recruit people in high ranking positions through threat, bribes, blackmailing and other covert means in order to complete their goal – One World Government. No borders, no enemies. Their moto is – a united world with no wars among each other. Complete centralization of the world power without any opposition. The same thing that Hitler wanted. However, they want to unite the world by fabricating a major crisis so that people will accept any solution especially when food and water are proposed as a reward.



This thread will be about their possible major crisis in the United States. And a few more things to mention about the Illuminati – they are Satanists. They worship Satan. They are incredibly ritualistic, numerology fanatics and always like to hint the public about their plans. It’s their code of honor – “we told you, you didn’t pay attention”. They give us hints through movies, newspapers and so on but this thread would not revolve around subliminals as the Olympics thread. The clues will be more direct. Let’s begin analyzing the clues (NOT EVIDENCE). So in order to understand where this thread goes, just flow with the idea that The Illuminati exist and are as described above and see where this takes you and if it makes sense.

Chicago will be the host of the NATO Summit for 2012 on May 20-21. For May 18-19 Chicago was planned to host another event too - the G8 Summit. Surprisingly, Barack Obama ordered that the summit be relocated at Camp David, which is just 62 miles away from Washington DC. What’s interesting is what has been going on in Chicago the past few years and particularly the preparations for these two major political events.

First of all, let’s say a few words on the Mayor of Chicago – Rahm Emanuel. He was elected to be a mayor of Chicago in early 2011 and is a well known Zionist and has dual citizenship – Israeli and American. Again that Israel. Why are those guys everywhere. Why does the US government support so much Israel and give them massive amounts of money every year (more than any other country) and have mayors who are Israeli citizens too? Rahm Emanuel is a very good friend of Obama and he is the perfect guy to be in charge of Chicago if they create a false-flag event. The guy is also a bit of an arrogant asshole, always swearing, saying **** on TV and just really isn’t the type of person to adore. Enough on him. Let’s see what preparations are being made in Chicago.


Starting May 1st, a full three weeks before the NATO Summit, the Federal Government will be setting up a Militarized Red Zone in the streets of Downtown Chicago.

Why would they militarize the whole downtown of Chicago when there are NO PROTESTERS. Whole 3 WEEKS before the event takes place!!! That is massive amount of human and financial resources paid by the American taxpayers.

Moving on…


As per standard security methodology, there will be a no fly zone and other normal measures. What is strange is that it seems the whole city is being prepared for MASS EVACUATION because of the fear of protests and riots. I will list a few articles and just quote the most important information from them.


http://www.examiner.com/article/national-security-nato-summit-chicago

Excerpt:


“Out of concern for Chicago citizen's safety, the Milwaukee Red Cross is preparing to receive Chicago citizens in the event of a mass evacuation. CBS has reported that a Wisconsin Red Cross spokeswoman was recorded on record confirming, the evacuation plan is not theirs alone. “Our direction has come from the City of Chicago and the Secret Service,”” she said.


Another article:

http://www.examiner.com/article/chica...stees-to-joliet-refugees-to-milwaukee

Excerpt:

“Now, reports are emerging of plans to incarcerate large groups of demonstrators and ship them off to Joliet prison (which is a vacant/unused prison since 2002). While at the same time, Milwaukee officials have reportedly been warned to prepare for the possibility of massive numbers of refugees from Chicago.”

Another excerpt from the same article:

“ According to CBS2 Chicago, reporters from the network have obtained an email from the Red Cross to its Milwaukee office. The email warns Wisconsin Red Cross responders that the upcoming May 20 Chicago NATO Summit, “may create unrest or another national security incident.” The American Red Cross in southeastern Wisconsin has been asked to place a number of shelters on standby in the event of evacuation of Chicago.”

And not only that, at least 10 hospitals in the suburban areas of Chicago are getting prepared for a dirty bomb. Read on:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national...pitals_perform_CoMJgSWEgmxKG7UZTDpk6H

Excerpt:

“CHICAGO -- Chicago's suburban hospitals are preparing for a worst-case scenario during next month's NATO summit.
At least 10 Chicago hospitals performed drills this week, including Evanston Hospital, simulating a radioactive dirty bomb explosion.”

And even more institutions have been prepared for a mass evacuation.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/05/0...ial-shelter-for-nato-summit-evacuees/

Excerpt:

“Benedictine is one of dozens of colleges, universities, community centers or churches standing by just in case Chicagoans must leave their homes because of violence or any other reason connected to the NATO summit.”


So basically, many universities, hospitals, churches, community churches, vacant prisons and other big halls are told by the City of Chicago and Secret Service to be on alert and prepare shelters and tents because of the possibility of riots and protests. There have been so many riots and protests during my lifetime and I cannot remember a time where a whole city like Chicago was evacuated. That’s over 9 million people! Is it possible that the Elite will stage a false flag event and blame it on Iran or whoever they want in order to instill even more security measures and control over Americans, bring in Martial Law (military in the streets – tanks, soldiers, like Iraq) and have the support of Americans to attack whoever is blamed for the attack. The same scenario as 9/11. Create a huge problem and crisis, blame an imaginary opponent that cannot be found, demand people give out their rights for more security and be welcomed by everyone when you attack the given “false attacker”. Problem-Reaction-Solution. Let’s see what other kind of preparations are being made.


These barricades you see in the picture below are being installed since 2005 on Chicago highways. They are designed to restrict or cut off access to roads during an emergency like a bioterrorist attack.




You can read more here:
http://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/publications/fhwahop08015/lit4_2_2_6.htm

But here is the important part:

‘With the gates, you wouldn’t need a police cruiser blocking or guarding every ramp,’ said IDOT ( Illinois Department of Traffic) spokesman Mike Claffey. If the experiment is successful, the barrier system would be expanded to include up to 80 inbound ramps on the Kennedy, Dan Ryan, Eisenhower, Stevenson and Edens Expressways, Claffey said.”

80 barrier checkpoints! Wow, that’s a bit too much for “just in case”. Can you imagine the millions of dollars those guys are spending just in case something happens exactly in Chicago. It’s almost as if the government is sure there would some awful attack on Chicago that will contaminate the whole area and people would be kept under quarantine. Doesn’t smell right to me.

Let’s move on.


Surprisingly, Russian’s President Putin has officially said he will not come to the G8 Summit. Instead the Prime Minister – Medvedev – will take his place. - http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/a...ocId=b87d99b23ebe487495005df9bb21d9a2

On 30th of March Kay Granger, US Congresswoman, wrote an article in the official White House website - http://kaygranger.house.gov/weekly-en...executive-order-you-should-know-about

Excerpt:

With all that is going in Washington these days some things don’t make the news the way they should. Fourteen days ago President Obama issued an Executive Order that you should know about. This order gives an unprecedented level of authority to the President and the federal government to take over all the fundamental parts of our economy - in the name of national security - in times of national emergency.
This means all of our water resources, construction services and materials (steel, concrete, etc.), our civil transportation system, food and health resources, our energy supplies including oil and natural gas – even farm equipment – can be taken over by the President and his cabinet secretaries. The Government can also draft U.S. citizens into the military and force U.S. citizens to fulfill "labor requirements" for the purposes of "national defense." There is not even any Congressional oversight, only briefings are required.

This type of Martial Law imposes a government takeover on U.S. citizens that is typically reserved for national emergencies, not in a time of relative peace.


Here you can find the whole Executive Order with all the details:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-o...tional-defense-resources-preparedness

Add to that the NDAA which makes it possible for the federal government to put you in prison if they THINK you are a threat to the national security. No trial, no nothing. They come to your home and take you to wherever they want. There are several hundred FEMA camps waiting unused. BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars have gone to the construction of these FEMA camps.

Now that you see the groundwork that is being prepared for a possible huge false flag event, I want to share a few ideas on what the possible targets could be. First of all, in order for an event like this to have a massive impact on the consciousness of people, it has to involve the destruction of something monumental, something that Chicagoans are proud of. What’s the most famous and tallest building in Chicago? The Willis Tower ( previously known as the Sears Tower.) It is officially 110 stories high (couting the roof constructions) and is allegedly the tallest building in the Western Hemisphere. The following presentation would be a comparison between the Twin Towers and The Willis Tower and how that is connected to the whole thing. There are many striking similarities!

The Willis Tower is 110 stories high, just like the two twin Towers that fell during 9/11 attacks. The Twin Towers were bought by (leased to) Larry Silverstein ( Zionist and Jew) just 6 weeks before 9/11 happened. The towers were not really a very wise investment at first glance. They made very little profit (if any) and were in dire need of renovation. The many vacant business areas were just another problem. The only solution for the owners were to be destroyed by a controlled demolition or pay a $200 million in renovation and scrapping off all the asbestos. There was no other way around. Six weeks before 9/11 Larry Silverstein comes and buys them. He quickly insures them against terrorist attacks with a special clause stating that in case of two separate terrorist attacks, he would get double the insurance policy. In other words, instead of 3.2, he would get 6.4 BILLION DOLLARS if two separate attacks happen. After 9/11 there was a court case which was settled by the two sides and Larry Silverstein won 4.8 BILLION DOLLARS. Nice profit for a few hundred million dollar investment, right?



Well, guess who owns the Willis Tower (at least most of it)? Yup, that same Zionist motherfucker. On July 16, 2009, several months after the Willis Group Holdings (Larry Silverstein) bought the leasing rights for the Sears Tower, they were given the right to rename it to Willis Tower. It is not announced publicly whether the tower has been insured and what are the specific clauses. Moreover, The Willis Tower also has a lot of vacant business space and isn’t winning much profit. On top of that, it has the same asbestos problem that the WTC had prior to 9/11. Is Larry Silverstein going to invest 100-200 million dollars in dealing with this problem? Is that why Silverstein bought the building?

Interestingly enough, the same company that provided security for the Twin Towers during 9/11 is given the same job in the Willis Tower. That company is called Kroll Inc and was founded by Jules Kroll in 1972. Needless to say Jules Kroll is a Jew. Kroll bought Convair which is the company that was assigned the task to recover data from the already demolished Twin Towers.

So we have the same guy who bought and insured the WTC against terror attacks, owning the Willis Tower now and the same company that provided the “security” for the WTC during 9/11 also providing security for the Willis Tower. And both Larry Silverstein and Jules Kroll are Jews. And both the Willis tower and the Twin Towers have asbestos problems which mean it has to be scrapped off or the whole building demolished. Anyone else starting to see a pattern here?

Remember when I said that the Illuminati LOVE symbolism, numerology and worship Satan?

The Willis Tower is 110 stories high.(wikipedia says 108 but they don’t include the roof constructions. So officially it’s 110)

The Twin Towers were both exactly 110. Added together, they make 330 stories high. 33 is one of the most important numbers in Freemasonry. The highest initiates are 33rd degree. If they manage to knock all 3 buildings, it would be a trifecta for them and the 33rd degree would be reached (symbolically).

The Twin Towers also represent the Two Pillars. In Freemasonry this is one of the most important symbols. It represents the passing from the old to the new. The End of the Old World and the beginning of the New World – the New World Order – the Illuminati
movement towards a One World Government. (add speech gbush)

The Two Pillars also represent the number 11 which is another extremely important number in numerology as Mortensen stated in the Olympics thread.

By destroying the Two Pillars, they destroy the Old World and rebuild the New World Order on top. If you look at this picture of the Willis Tower



It has two antennas on the roof, representing the Two Pillars in Freemasonry. You can read more on the Two Pillars and Freemasonry here -
http://secretarcana.com/occultsymbols/the-two-pillars/

The zipcode of the Willis Tower is, imagine that – 60606. Just a little Satanic, not much.

Now let’s examine the number of drills that have been played out in Chicago and Willis Tower in the last few years.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500164_162-553391.html - bioterroism drill, 2009

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/1087879/ - bioterrorism drill, 2003

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/051408_terror_drill.htm - terror drill at Chicago's Sears Centre Arena, 2008.

One of the biggest terror drills ever in American history was that 5-day drill they talk about in the cbsnews article I think. A multitude of different worst-case scenarios being played out from plane crash to a dirty bomb and whatnot.


And something that I found interesting: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/200...36451/bolton-nukes-chicago/?mobile=nc

Excerpt:
“This morning, former U.N. ambassador John Bolton spoke to the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC). He tried to up the fear quotient in the room by raising the prospect of an Iranian-sent nuclear attack on an American city. “It’s [a] tiny [threat] compared to the Soviet Union,” Bolton said, “but is the loss of one American city — pick one at random: Chicago — is that a tiny threat?” The audience erupted in cheers and laughter at the idea of Obama’s home city being obliterated. “

John Bolton is one of those guys in the media that is like “NUUUUUUUUUUUUUKE IRAN NOOOOW BEFORE THEY NUKE US!!!!!!!” The guy is obviously part of the game and it’s very coincidential that he chose exactly Chicago for his black humor joke.

Even one of the most respected geopolitical experts in the world Gerald Celente has something to say:
http://theintelhub.com/tag/false-flag-terror-attack/ (the second article)

Excerpt:

“Trends Forecaster Gerald Celente warned in February that we should expect another false flag attack in America to boost the popularity of President Obama and escalate the wars in the Middle East.
“Look for a false flag,” said Celente, “look for something to rally the people around the president. They’ll do another one …. Remember the Maine. Remember the Gulf of Tonkin.””


Now let’s summarise: We have full 3 weeks of militarization of downtown Chicago (which is 3 weeks before the NATO Summit). Orders given by non other than Secret Service and City of Chicago to numerous universities, unused prisons, hospitals and other possible refugee camps to prepare for mass evacuation of the whole Chicago population. There is also a developed intricate and costly barricade system, consisting of 80 (!!!) barricade checkpoints exactly on the highways of Chicago in order to quarantine the city in case of bioterrorism or other big emergency. There are the massive 5-day and other terror drills concentrating mainly on dirty bombs. We have the striking similarities and other interesting facts between Sears ( Willis) Tower and the Twin Towers and the groups that own and secure them.
Moreover, there are the signed executive orders giving all the power to the Federal Government in case of an emergency and the NDAA is also in place. Martial Law just waits for an emergency.

And take into consideration the fact that Obama changed unexpectedly the location of the G8 Summit 60 miles away from the possible false-flag. If there really is such an event, the leaders of the world would be in a safe zone, able to conspire and control from distance, while the Summit of the United Nations Military – NATO will be there on May 20-21. If something happens – boom NATO along with the US military come to save the day and Chicago becomes a second Iraq with tanks and soldiers marching in the streets. Martial Law!

If I had to give my best shot at predicting the time and place, I would say 20th of May, 2012, Willis Tower, Chicago. May 20th is also "Jerusalem Day" and Zionism is based on the idea of creating the New Jerusalem (something I wrote about in the Olympics thread). So, just like the symbology of the Two Pillars, if they create a false flag event on 20th of May it will lead to the building of the New World (Order) - the New Jerusalem. There is also much more information on May 20th that is not connected directly to this threat but it won't change the message - "get out of Chicago if you can". I don't exclude any type of disaster to happen even natural disasters like earthquake but that's too long of an argument and I think this thread scratches the length limit that is acceptable lol.

Beware and stay away from Chicago.

didn't read all of it but seems hysterically funny stuff! thanks for posting, i like this folio hat stuff so much

[...]And a few more things to mention about the Illuminati – they are Satanists. They worship Satan. They are incredibly ritualistic, numerology fanatics and always like to hint the public about their plans. It’s their code of honor – “we told you, you didn’t pay attention”. They give us hints through movies, newspapers and so on but this thread would not revolve around subliminals as the Olympics thread. The clues will be more direct. Let’s begin analyzing the clues (NOT EVIDENCE).

So we have the Illuminati - group of people who were smart enough to get to the very top of the hierarchy and stay there for decades (centuries?). Their goal is world domination.
Yet they worship Satan, have idiotic rituals, believe in numerology (lol)..
How does that make any sense?

Why would the group of evil geniuses wanting world domination constantly provide "clues" that could possibly be used to foil their plans?

The Willis Tower is 110 stories high.(wikipedia says 108 but they don’t include the roof constructions. So officially it’s 110) The Twin Towers were both exactly 110. Added together, they make 330 stories high. 33 is one of the most important numbers in Freemasonry. The highest initiates are 33rd degree. If they manage to knock all 3 buildings, it would be a trifecta for them and the 33rd degree would be reached (symbolically).

Why?
I seriously mean it.
*Why* would it be important for them?
How does reaching this 'trifecta' makes them closer towards world domination?

Also: what is your claim, exactly?
That there will be a - Illuminati caused - terrorist attack in Chicago?
Then why are they doing these bioterrorism drills and prepare people for potential attack?
Clearly the impact of an attack would be greater if people were caught unaware.

cliffs???

nlwolf, it is important because they believe in it. This goes way way deep into the ancient history of mankind and the universe, the universal laws and consciousness, occult knowledge. There is no good short explanation and it touches subjects that are too wacko so I am not gonna explain a lot about them. They are just ritualistic Satanic symbology-loving worshipers. If you want the bigger explanation, watch some documentaries or research the beginnings of the Illuminati in Bavaria in the 18th century and go from there. Just like there are inteligent psychopaths and normally looking cannibals and serial killers, there are those who are perverted by power because they feel invincible and free to perform any crime and sin for money and power.

And as i mentioned in this and the Olympics thread - they do not consider people smart enough to see what's in front of their faces. They have brainwashed the whole world through television and misinformation in school books and newspapers that people just cannot connect the dots, they are taught only how to repeat and do their job and not ask questions. Only when you see them stacked together do they start making sense. Otherwise, it's close to impossible to get it by chance. Only the Internet can bring them down because people wake other people up and the information is not censored. If someone knows a secret or something important, he shares it and they can't stop it. That's why they want to control it like the Chinese Government. That's why all the lobbying for CISPA, ACTA and so on. They give out all the clues because it's code of honor, I already wrote about this in the first post.

About the "why would it be beneficial for their total world domination" - because in order for the Gov to take more control of civil liberties, they need a crisis to bring in the military and then it's Iraq#2. They can blame any incident on Iran and say "let's attack them now". If there is no major crisis, you can't do these two things. They whole game is "hey there is someone out there that wants you dead, but if you give us all your rights we will protect you." That's the whole idea behind false-flag events - manipulating the population.

how much time did you spend on this post?

pretty sure most of this is copy paste from somewhere else

if it's not, now that's some serious OCD

D_smart_S, you do realize though that if you're just copy pasting the ridiculous shit of another member it can't constitute trolling
as you are then just communicating his nonsense to us as a proxy?

My conspiracy theory: D_smart_S just posts all the retarded shit username Sacerdotal posts on GrassCity.

yeah, dude, I am posting the same thing on different forums, I am Sacerdotal. Now go to Scandinavia to take your Noble Prize for investigation. And make me a taco before you leave.

On May 17 2012 10:24 D_smart_S wrote: yeah, dude, I am posting the same thing on different forums, I am Sacerdotal. Now go to Scandinavia to take your Noble Prize for investigation. And make me a taco before you leave.

You mean Sweden? You can take the time to find all these clues but cant take the time to check your facts or proof read your statements

On May 17 2012 10:37 FarmMylife wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2012 10:24 D_smart_S wrote: yeah, dude, I am posting the same thing on different forums, I am Sacerdotal. Now go to Scandinavia to take your Noble Prize for investigation. And make me a taco before you leave. You mean Sweden? You can take the time to find all these clues but cant take the time to check your facts or proof read your statements

Well he's close.

About as close as if I were to call you a Texan.

OMG. Noble Prizes are given in Norway for peace and the rest are in Sweden that's why I'm generalizing to Scandinavia. How pathetic is the life of a troll. Would you please the two of you check my thread for small grammar mistakes and post them here so that I can correct them before anyone with brain has seen the thread. Discussing irrelevant details with you two is like playing cards with a monkey.

No, sorry, I can't commit myself to that.

There is no need to debunk you this time, when May 21 rolls around and nothing happens will you accept that your are delusional and suffer from apophenia?

oh, http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/

click on new thread

check OP username

in my town, there are police stations spread throughout the city. They have guns, and all kinds of transportation devices, like cars. Something must be brewing

On May 17 2012 11:00 uiCk wrote: in my town, there are police stations spread throughout the city. They have guns, and all kinds of transportation devices, like cars. Something must be brewing

Only if there are very common structures, symbols or set-ups in your fairly large city, which is of course uncommon and always directly related to a secret society.

holy shit

There is a big difference between getting prepared for a G8 Summit and getting prepared for a dirty bomb zombie apocalypse mass evacuation. Not to mention Larry Silverstein's finger in all this. A Martial Law is exactly what they need and Gerald Celente is a world reknowned geopolitical expert who shares the same opinion as mine so it's not just tinfoil hats. Many conspiracy theorists have come to the similar conclusion as me so it's just a thread that warns people who might be in Chicago or have relatives there. Haters gonna hate, even when it's about serious matters but trolling is a way of life, right?

On May 17 2012 11:15 taco wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2012 11:00 uiCk wrote: in my town, there are police stations spread throughout the city. They have guns, and all kinds of transportation devices, like cars. Something must be brewing Only if there are very common structures, symbols or set-ups in your fairly large city, which is of course uncommon and always directly related to a secret society.

Must spend the next few days walking around town spotting symbols and talking to myself outloud

instead of posting this BS here, you should wirte a book, like Dan Brown.

On May 17 2012 09:29 D_smart_S wrote: nlwolf, it is important because they believe in it. This goes way way deep into the ancient history of mankind and the universe, the universal laws and consciousness, occult knowledge. There is no good short explanation and it touches subjects that are too wacko so I am not gonna explain a lot about them. They are just ritualistic Satanic symbology-loving worshipers. If you want the bigger explanation, watch some documentaries or research the beginnings of the Illuminati in Bavaria in the 18th century and go from there. Just like there are inteligent psychopaths and normally looking cannibals and serial killers, there are those who are perverted by power because they feel invincible and free to perform any crime and sin for money and power. And as i mentioned in this and the Olympics thread - they do not consider people smart enough to see what's in front of their faces. They have brainwashed the whole world through television and misinformation in school books and newspapers that people just cannot connect the dots, they are taught only how to repeat and do their job and not ask questions. Only when you see them stacked together do they start making sense. Otherwise, it's close to impossible to get it by chance. Only the Internet can bring them down because people wake other people up and the information is not censored. If someone knows a secret or something important, he shares it and they can't stop it. That's why they want to control it like the Chinese Government. That's why all the lobbying for CISPA, ACTA and so on. They give out all the clues because it's code of honor, I already wrote about this in the first post.

So the powerful and ruthless Illuminati, whose main goal is to control the world, and they are willing to reach this goal whatever the means (wars, terrirists attacks, propaganda, lies etc.) decided for some reason give *clues* which make it possible to unmask their goal?

When did that happen?
Was there a secret Illuminati meeting that went something like this:
-Illuminati Grand Strategist: "Hey, you know what will help our cause? Clues. Stupid fucking clues hinting towards our secret evil goal"
-Illuminati Advisory Board: "Sounds gool. LOL. Let's do it"

Also - where did you get this 'code of honor' thing?
Is there a consensus among scholars that indeed ruthless and unscrupulous Illuminati have such 'code of honor'?
Any citations from scientific literature supporting such claim?

About the "why would it be beneficial for their total world domination" - because in order for the Gov to take more control of civil liberties, they need a crisis to bring in the military and then it's Iraq#2. They can blame any incident on Iran and say "let's attack them now". If there is no major crisis, you can't do these two things. They whole game is "hey there is someone out there that wants you dead, but if you give us all your rights we will protect you." That's the whole idea behind false-flag events - manipulating the population.

What I'm asking is this: why the security measures?
If massive terrorist attack happened without any preparations I think it would have much bigger impact.
There was no lockdown of NY before 9/11.

Also - the claim that they are are setting up military checkpoint (or w/e) in Chicago to "bring" military in is retarded.
US Troops are already present in US, they dont need to go to the Chicago before attack.
Illuminati can - after attack - simply tell Obama: "Move troops to Chicago and ... uhhh... commence to the next phase of our plan"


You also claim that 'they' are both Zionist and Satanists.
Surely there must be a consensus among scholars supporting such claim.
Can you please provide citations?

Clearly everyone in this thread that is shitting on OP is part of the illuminati.

On May 17 2012 10:54 HaiVan wrote: click on new thread check OP username

encouraging to know that real patriots like you are disarming the NWO plans.

I can accept and believe the Illuminati and other major conspiracy stuff but I dont feel like d_smart is the right spokesperson for this. This whole post is pretty loony.

^lawl

On May 17 2012 13:51 nlwolf wrote: So the powerful and ruthless Illuminati, whose main goal is to control the world, and they are willing to reach this goal whatever the means (wars, terrirists attacks, propaganda, lies etc.) decided for some reason give *clues* which make it possible to unmask their goal? When did that happen? Was there a secret Illuminati meeting that went something like this: -Illuminati Grand Strategist: "Hey, you know what will help our cause? Clues. Stupid fucking clues hinting towards our secret evil goal" -Illuminati Advisory Board: "Sounds gool. LOL. Let's do it" Also - where did you get this 'code of honor' thing? Is there a consensus among scholars that indeed ruthless and unscrupulous Illuminati have such 'code of honor'? Any citations from scientific literature supporting such claim? What I'm asking is this: why the security measures? If massive terrorist attack happened without any preparations I think it would have much bigger impact. There was no lockdown of NY before 9/11. Also - the claim that they are are setting up military checkpoint (or w/e) in Chicago to "bring" military in is retarded. US Troops are already present in US, they dont need to go to the Chicago before attack. Illuminati can - after attack - simply tell Obama: "Move troops to Chicago and ... uhhh... commence to the next phase of our plan" You also claim that 'they' are both Zionist and Satanists. Surely there must be a consensus among scholars supporting such claim. Can you please provide citations?

Okay, for the last time - science doesn't deal with secret societies. Someone in the Olympics thread also asked for the same - scientific proof. It's like asking for a political proof that ducks quack. There is no scientific literature about the Illuminati, ok? Researchers research and write books. There are also insiders, ex-illuminati members. Google some key words and start researching.

I have never said that the checkpoint were aimed at bringing in military, where did you read that? I said that with these barriers, the military can control and cut access to the town if it is being hit by a dirty bomb.

On the clues thing: dude, ok I got it - you can't relate to them. I can't relate to cannibalistic rituals but I know that those fuckers exist and eat humans. It doesn't make sense when you can go kill a rabbit or a pig but I don't close my mind to the possibility that I just don't understand them. For the Illuminati giving clues and marking everything with their symbology is the same as a dog pissing trees to mark their territory. Does it make sense to you the tree-pissing performed by dogs? Do they own the territory or are other dogs also pissing the same trees? Was there a special meeting between the dogs in the world that went like "yo dawg, I put trees in your trees so you can piss them within a piss."

On the statement that there were no lockdowns on 9/11:

Yes, dude, there weren't. It would've been very suspicious if a bunch of military were hanging out with their cameras looking at the sky waiting for a few planes to hit the towers, don't you think? Just as it would be equally suspicious if there wasn't any security in a G8 Summit or NATO Summit meeting. But why is there military at all and why so many of them. It's almost like a preparation for war. Huge number of institutions training multiple different scenarios oh my god the end of the world is coming THERE ARE GOING TO BE PROTESTS, BRING IN THE TANKS AND THE SPACESHIPS, WE EXPECT NUCLEAR BOMBS AND DIRTY BOMBS AND SOME MUTATED VIRUS, PREPARE! Seriously, it just smells like they are preparing for some major action. You don't call your parents and grandparents to assist you in brushing your teeth, ya know what I mean?

On May 17 2012 15:41 D_smart_S wrote: Okay, for the last time - science doesn't deal with secret societies. Someone in the Olympics thread also asked for the same - scientific proof. It's like asking for a political proof that ducks quack. There is no scientific literature about the Illuminati, ok? Researchers research and write books. There are also insiders, ex-illuminati members. Google some key words and start researching.

It was just a sarcastic request.
Your complete lack of any rigor and critical thinking is amusing. That's why I asked for scientific sources, pretending to believe that your claim is solid and supported by scholars. Even though it is absolutely ridiculous.
By 'science' i dont mean engineering or biotech. Sources would come from historians who do a research in relevant areas.

What if I claimed that Illuminati are all left-handed, only eat cat brains, never listen to music, are required to learn classical Greek by the age of 7 and never say word 'bleh'?
That's right. It would make no fucking sense. Just as it makes no sense for such group to engage in the "clues game" or dabble in numerology.

On the clues thing: dude, ok I got it - you can't relate to them. I can't relate to cannibalistic rituals but I know that those fuckers exist and eat humans. It doesn't make sense when you can go kill a rabbit or a pig but I don't close my mind to the possibility that I just don't understand them. For the Illuminati giving clues and marking everything with their symbology is the same as a dog pissing trees to mark their territory. Does it make sense to you the tree-pissing performed by dogs? Do they own the territory or are other dogs also pissing the same trees? Was there a special meeting between the dogs in the world that went like "yo dawg, I put trees in your trees so you can piss them within a piss."

When dogs piss on trees they are executing adaptations to ancestral environment, where marking and defending territory was important.
It does't make sense for them to do that now, but dogs are stupid, and all-powerful, secret, planning-world-domination organization is not. That is the difference.
Cannibals (assuming they come from cultures that frown upon such practice) are mentally ill. They like human flesh more than animal flesh and thats what they do.

You could say that - in a sense - both dogs in ancestral environment, and cannibals are *instrumentally* rational.
They have goal (eating human flesh, marking territory to defend) and perform actions that lead them towards that goal.
Cannibal who would claim he first must master piano, then learn 5 programming laguages in order to eat human flesh would be correctly classified as a retard.
So is Illuminati who wants to control the world, but must give clues which might prevent him from doing so.

On the statement that there were no lockdowns on 9/11: Yes, dude, there weren't. It would've been very suspicious if a bunch of military were hanging out with their cameras looking at the sky waiting for a few planes to hit the towers, don't you think? Just as it would be equally suspicious if there wasn't any security in a G8 Summit or NATO Summit meeting. But why is there military at all and why so many of them. It's almost like a preparation for war. Huge number of institutions training multiple different scenarios oh my god the end of the world is coming THERE ARE GOING TO BE PROTESTS, BRING IN THE TANKS AND THE SPACESHIPS, WE EXPECT NUCLEAR BOMBS AND DIRTY BOMBS AND SOME MUTATED VIRUS, PREPARE! Seriously, it just smells like they are preparing for some major action. You don't call your parents and grandparents to assist you in brushing your teeth, ya know what I mean?

Too little security - suspicious
Too much - suspicious
I guess it security level was exactly right (whatever that means) you would find it suspicious too ("Why is it exactly right? They don't want to look suspicious, therefore something must be up".

You're a victim of the confirmation bias. Selectively gathering and interpreting evidence in a way that confirms your preconceived ideas.
When I first read your olypics thread I thought you were trolling. Showing illuminati-card game, and page from comic book where plane hit WTC.

The main problem with your theories is that they are too complex.
Read and think about this quote from Eliezer Yudkovsky:

The seventh virtue is simplicity. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry said: “Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.” Simplicity is virtuous in belief, design, planning, and justification. When you profess a huge belief with many details, each additional detail is another chance for the belief to be wrong. Each specification adds to your burden; if you can lighten your burden you must do so. There is no straw that lacks the power to break your back. Of artifacts it is said: The most reliable gear is the one that is designed out of the machine. Of plans: A tangled web breaks. A chain of a thousand links will arrive at a correct conclusion if every step is correct, but if one step is wrong it may carry you anywhere. In mathematics a mountain of good deeds cannot atone for a single sin. Therefore, be careful on every step.

Which 'theory' is most likely?
1) There exists a very influential, shadowy group, whose sole purpose is world domination. They gradually gained this influence by getting wealthy, controlling banking sector and media.
(implied suggestion: group consists of smart people, getting to the top of the sytem is not easy)
2) There exists a very influential, shadowy group, whose sole purpose is world domination. They gradually gained this influence by getting wealthy, controlling banking sector and media.
They also are both Zionists and Satanists. They believe in numerology and provide 'clues' about their plans.
3) There exists a very influential, shadowy group, whose sole purpose is world domination. They gradually gained this influence by getting wealthy, controlling banking sector and media.
They also are both Zionists and Satanists. They believe in numerology and provide 'clues' about their plans.
They are all left-handed, only eat cat brains, never listen to music, are required to learn classical Greek by the age of 7 and never say word 'bleh'?

What is this... I don't even...

The government? they would never do anything like this! now pass me the HFCS soda and turn on the idiot box I need to see snooki get drunk again.
Having fun in the US of Bankistan.

You realize that you make them feel smug about themselves if you are wrong right?

Boys, we gon' kill us sum Nazi's.

NSFW
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you're welcome guys ! OP : Potatoe !

On May 17 2012 10:52 FarmMylife wrote: There is no need to debunk you this time, when May 21 rolls around and nothing happens will you accept that your are delusional and suffer from apophenia?

wolf, I am apologising that I couldn't understand your incredible sarcasm that 'scientists' mean "historians". It totally makes sense given the way your logic flows.

I want to ask all the haters - if something happens on or around May 20th does that mean that it was correct to put the thread and warn people? If nothing happens does that change the "correctness" and make it "inappropriate"?

Most of you sound like some idiot friend who doesn't know poker at all. Everyone has that friend and when he comes over to watch you play poker over your shoulder and you lose a hand against the biggest donk on the table where he shoves 28s and crack your AKs he says "lol dude he totally outplayed you, you lost". That retarded friend are all of you who think that the outcome define the validity of this thread. How can so many poker players be so result-oriented when it comes to real life and sharing potentially important information but when you play poker you are all like "it was the correct way to play the hand, don't be a result-oriented donk, it was +EV." How can you not transfer your thinking skills into reallife is beyond me. Too much internet trolling has done some damage on your rational thinking.

http://www.eutimes.net/2012/05/fbi-ag...sive-manhunt-warns-theyre-all-insane/
or
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow...dugo-mountains-possibly-suicidal.html

Excerpt from EUTIMES:

"A bizarre Foreign Ministry report circulating in the Kremlin today states that this Friday past (11 May) Russian Envoy Vladimir Vinokurov, the Consulate General of San Francisco, was approached near his hotel room during a visit to Los Angles by an agent of the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) identifying himself as Stephen Ivens [photo top right] who warned that he and a former FBI agent named Donald Sachtleben had uncovered evidence of an impending terror attack on US soil stating that those behind the attack were “all insane.”


Before Ivens was able to finish his “message,” this report says, the three American Diplomatic Security (DS) agents, who trail all Russian diplomats in the US, began to “surge” towards Ivens causing him to flee.
According to US news sources, Special Agent Ivens, after leaving downtown Los Angeles, returned to his home in Burbank whereupon he then fled into the rugged Verdugo Mountains after which a massive manhunt for him ensued involving 100 FBI agents, 40 sheriff’s department rescuers and a dozen local police officers.`

Even more bizarre about this case, this report continues, is that the retired FBI agent named Donald Sachtleben mentioned by Ivens, who also knew about this impending “plot,” was arrested within hours of Ivens disappearing and charged with trading child pornography.

Most important to note about Sachtleben was, aside from his being an over 25-year veteran of the FBI, he was a special agent bomb technician before retiring in 2008 who specialized in counterterrorism and bombing investigations and whose most important case was the 11 September 2001 attacks on New York City.
According to US news reports about Sachtleben’s arrest, this most knowledgeable of FBI agents openly traded child porn using the e-mail address ‘pedodave69@yahoo.com’ in an act so stupid for one of the United States most highly trained intelligence agents it defies belief.

The practice of US intelligence services charging their most feared dissidents with child pornography and/or sex charges is well known, with the most celebrated case being against the former UN weapons inspector William Scott Ritter, Jr. who warned about the lies being told to the American people in the run-up to the Iraq War only to find himself sent to prison on trumped up charges involving a minor girl.

To exactly what kind of false flag plot Agents Ivens and Sachtleben had uncovered this report doesn’t say, other than to note that the credibility of this information should not be dismissed due to how fast and hard US intelligence agencies are acting to cover their tracks should any additional information come forth.
Grimly to be noted is the use of false flag operations by the United States and their political elite classes are well known and well documented, the most famous of them being Operation Northwoods."

So they will kill this guy Ivens, say that he was suicidal and went in the woods to actually kill himself and the other guy Sachtleben will be put in prison for child pornography lol. It's really funny. So they knew this Sachtleben was a child pornography lover and waited and waited and waited and now that he turns out to be saying they are planning a false-flag and boooooom he is arrested for child pornography. YEAH RIGHT, nothing out of the ordinary. And pay attention to the way this Ivens guy described the people behind the impending plot - "they are all insane" - who would that be hmmmm...

Oh and let's not forget the FBI agent's email who had 25 years of experience in FBI - pedodave69@yahoo.com . AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA they should've made it something like "fbi-pedo-agent-sachtleben69nambla@yahoo.com

And I love how they diagnosed Ivens "suicidal". I believe that the 3 bad agents who were looking for him managed to diagnose him while running towards him. They might be doctors with a keen eye after all. When they find him, he will be dead with 5 shot wounds. The official story would be of course suicide and the autopsy would be quick and he will be cremated. This is pure classic.

On May 18 2012 02:57 D_smart_S wrote: Most of you sound like some idiot friend who doesn't know poker at all. Everyone has that friend and when he comes over to watch you play poker over your shoulder and you lose a hand against the biggest donk on the table where he shoves 28s and crack your AKs he says "lol dude he totally outplayed you, you lost". That retarded friend are all of you who think that the outcome define the validity of this thread. How can so many poker players be so result-oriented when it comes to real life and sharing potentially important information but when you play poker you are all like "it was the correct way to play the hand, don't be a result-oriented donk, it was +EV." How can you not transfer your thinking skills into reallife is beyond me. Too much internet trolling has done some damage on your rational thinking.

Illuminati:

A clandestine group of elites who through grand schemes have manipulated the history and progress of civilisations across the Earth from the shadows, successfully keeping their identity and motives secret for hundreds of years, but who can't seem to resist the urge to leave clues on banknotes and logos of major international sports events?

Yeah, sounds legit.

On May 18 2012 02:57 D_smart_S wrote: wolf, I am apologising that I couldn't understand your incredible sarcasm that 'scientists' mean "historians". It totally makes sense given the way your logic flows. I want to ask all the haters - if something happens on or around May 20th does that mean that it was correct to put the thread and warn people? If nothing happens does that change the "correctness" and make it "inappropriate"? Most of you sound like some idiot friend who doesn't know poker at all. Everyone has that friend and when he comes over to watch you play poker over your shoulder and you lose a hand against the biggest donk on the table where he shoves 28s and crack your AKs he says "lol dude he totally outplayed you, you lost". That retarded friend are all of you who think that the outcome define the validity of this thread. How can so many poker players be so result-oriented when it comes to real life and sharing potentially important information but when you play poker you are all like "it was the correct way to play the hand, don't be a result-oriented donk, it was +EV." How can you not transfer your thinking skills into reallife is beyond me. Too much internet trolling has done some damage on your rational thinking.

Once come may 20th, you'll be that much closer to receiving medical help. And i lol'd at getting your AK "cracked"

When I opened this thread;

Set aside the geopolitical aspect of May 20th. Take a look at this:

On May 20th, the Earth, Moon, Sun, Jupiter and The Pleiades Constellation will align. Why is that important? Because recent discoveries show that alignments cause earthquakes. Mensur Omerbashich wrote a scientific paper on this called "Astronomical Alignments as the cause of ~M6+ Seismicity". After he put that paper online he was harrased and the paper disappeared for a while and then resurfaced again. It was probably a year ago from now. He emphasizes that when the Moon or Sun are part of the alignment, the earthquake is stronger. I guess it's due to the closeness of the Moon and the massive impact of the Sun on Earth. I mean, even not so big solar flares make an impact on Earth so I guess when it's aligned with different objects it starts going up a gear or two. Here are some of the alignments in the paper:



There is more but that's enough for further discussion. What do you think, LPers?

After the OP I was like "yea yea standard conspiracy stuff" but after ^^^ that ...

On May 19 2012 07:18 anheway wrote: After the OP I was like "yea yea standard conspiracy stuff" but after ^^^ that ...

This is one of the most important threads on this site. I suggest you pay close attention since these things affect you personally

On May 19 2012 09:50 Roald wrote: Show nested quote + On May 19 2012 07:18 anheway wrote: After the OP I was like "yea yea standard conspiracy stuff" but after ^^^ that ... This is one of the most important threads on this site. I suggest you pay close attention since these things affect you personally

too many trolls; cant distinguish the non-trolls lol.

The thing I hate most about these type of threads is that there are going to be some actual conspiracies and after all this bullshit no one is going to pay any attention to them.

On May 19 2012 03:46 D_smart_S wrote: recent discoveries show that alignments cause earthquakes.

Nope. They do not. Never have. Never will. Never showed it.

On May 19 2012 10:16 Fudyann wrote: The thing I hate most about these type of threads is that there are going to be some actual conspiracies and after all this bullshit no one is going to pay any attention to them.

This, :[ , gotta love the internets...

On May 19 2012 03:46 D_smart_S wrote: There is more but that's enough for further discussion. What do you think, LPers?

I think you're the dumbest cunt on this forum.

An amazing role model to champion science there for you: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Mensur_Omerbashich

Never read such garbage (since your last post) about alignment. But hey I'll be a sport, post links to peer reviewed/scholarly articles supporting the absurd theory and I'll change my mind. I have access to a huge array of academic databases so if the articles supporting your claims are on there I can read them, they probably will be seeing as you abide by the utmost integrity. I think this planet alignment bullshit comes around every few years, weird how the earth hasn't ended yet considering earth can be put into alignment with any other planet, the moon or the sun at any time if drawn correctly (funny ol' thing about space).

But then again I would say that if I was Illuminati.

I love how you take your information from "rationalwiki.org" hahahahahaha

What a great unbiased website. Only the first sentence cracked me up.

"Mensur Omerbashich is a crank scientist" . hahahahahhahahahaha

Now please turn on Fox News, drink a good healthy Coke with some Mountain Dew, have a nice cigar full of healthy carcinogens and enjoy some GMO food before popping in the daily dose of Adderall for zombie mode, while you read the all-knowing unbiased wikipedia. It's all good for you. And don't forget to brush your teeth with Fluoride toothpaste, it's only a poison before they put in your toothpaste. Just like the radioactive 'medicine' for cancer. When it's outside of you - don't touch it it will burn your skin. Inside - MEDICINE :D:D:D. The Elite love people like you - braindead zombie following instructions without asking too many questions.

one of them probably saw this thread and said "shit, they're on to us." and changed the date.

On May 19 2012 10:16 Fudyann wrote: The thing I hate most about these type of threads is that there are going to be some actual conspiracies and after all this bullshit no one is going to pay any attention to them.

Please give me some of the real conspiracy theories.

So you judge a theory by the validity of other non-related theories? Very smart, very smart...

On May 19 2012 11:56 D_smart_S wrote: I love how you take your information from "rationalwiki.org" hahahahahaha What a great unbiased website. Only the first sentence cracked me up. "Mensur Omerbashich is a crank scientist" . hahahahahhahahahaha Now please turn on Fox News, drink a good healthy Coke with some Mountain Dew, have a nice cigar full of healthy carcinogens and enjoy some GMO food before popping in the daily dose of Adderall for zombie mode, while you read the all-knowing unbiased wikipedia. It's all good for you. And don't forget to brush your teeth with Fluoride toothpaste, it's only a poison before they put in your toothpaste. Just like the radioactive 'medicine' for cancer. When it's outside of you - don't touch it it will burn your skin. Inside - MEDICINE :D:D:D. The Elite love people like you - braindead zombie following instructions without asking too many questions.

Trying hard to find the links to the requested sources in this post...they must still be coming right?

And his paper is also readily available on arxiv I guess the Illuminati et al can't fuck with the all encompassing power of Cornell University hosting.

On May 19 2012 10:16 Fudyann wrote: The thing I hate most about these type of threads is that there are going to be some actual conspiracies and after all this bullshit no one is going to pay any attention to them.

Bingo.
Has it ever occured to you that D_Smart_S is a member of Illuminati, whose job is to make *real* conspiracy theorists look like crazies?
And he's doing a very good job so far.

Here you go guys not related but I thought I'd post it because she might catch your attention because shes hot.

Could we please just fucking ban this clown already?

Like I've said before: If you banned someone for potentially making LP look like people who laugh at Breivik jokes why the fuck is this clown still here?

On May 19 2012 03:46 D_smart_S wrote: Set aside the geopolitical aspect of May 20th. Take a look at this: On May 20th, the Earth, Moon, Sun, Jupiter and The Pleiades Constellation will align. Why is that important? Because recent discoveries show that alignments cause earthquakes. Mensur Omerbashich wrote a scientific paper on this called "Astronomical Alignments as the cause of ~M6+ Seismicity". After he put that paper online he was harrased and the paper disappeared for a while and then resurfaced again. It was probably a year ago from now. He emphasizes that when the Moon or Sun are part of the alignment, the earthquake is stronger. I guess it's due to the closeness of the Moon and the massive impact of the Sun on Earth. I mean, even not so big solar flares make an impact on Earth so I guess when it's aligned with different objects it starts going up a gear or two. Here are some of the alignments in the paper: There is more but that's enough for further discussion. What do you think, LPers?

Or maybe earthquakes cause these allignments? Violent movements of tectonic plates causing ripples in the space-time that propagate and cause - by physical mechanisms yet to be discovered[1] - stellar objects to change their position.

Or maybe they are merely corrlated?
There have been hundreds of earthquakes, and there are millions of various stellar object combinations. Is it suprising that some of these combinations - by sheer chance- happen to have at the time of eathquake?

Here is something to think about: Butter production in Bangladesh predits the stock market.
Coincidence?

[1] I actually discovered these mechanisms, which go beyond standard physics, but Illuminati prevented me from publishing it.

Where the hell is palak? Sunnstein is not paying you to play diablo 3 all day get back to work..



Look at that rat scurry away when exposed to sunlight.

It occurs to me that you might also say that because it's on arxiv it means it's legit. Anyone can submit to the archive and it's not peer reviewed (merely moderated). Considering his paper (or should I refer to him as his royal highness, he does claim to be Bosnian royalty afterall, sounds legit) has been out for more than a year and hasn't been published in a journal (that I can find anyway) I think your case for this guy is getting quite slim.

But he did update it this year, so good on him for plugging away. No retreat, no surrender and all that.

On May 19 2012 03:46 D_smart_S wrote: Set aside the geopolitical aspect of May 20th. Take a look at this: On May 20th, the Earth, Moon, Sun, Jupiter and The Pleiades Constellation will align. Why is that important? Because recent discoveries show that alignments cause earthquakes. Mensur Omerbashich wrote a scientific paper on this called "Astronomical Alignments as the cause of ~M6+ Seismicity". After he put that paper online he was harrased and the paper disappeared for a while and then resurfaced again. It was probably a year ago from now. He emphasizes that when the Moon or Sun are part of the alignment, the earthquake is stronger. I guess it's due to the closeness of the Moon and the massive impact of the Sun on Earth. I mean, even not so big solar flares make an impact on Earth so I guess when it's aligned with different objects it starts going up a gear or two. Here are some of the alignments in the paper: There is more but that's enough for further discussion. What do you think, LPers?

This table is GOLD! The colors, underlines, bolds and everything is just awesome. And wtf is Elenin? I had to look it up on Wiki. Its a comet discovered in 2010 and around 1mile in diameter. This chart is great in SOOO MANY levels. Amazing source of information.

PS: I think the the 3rd row (Alaska 2002 ) the Moon column has to be N-3 and in the fourth row(Japan 2003) the Label column has to read MPCS.

I don't know why you guys are all flaming d_smart when he is actually trying to help you???

On May 19 2012 11:59 D_smart_S wrote: Show nested quote + On May 19 2012 10:16 Fudyann wrote: The thing I hate most about these type of threads is that there are going to be some actual conspiracies and after all this bullshit no one is going to pay any attention to them. Please give me some of the real conspiracy theories. So you judge a theory by the validity of other non-related theories? Very smart, very smart...

Thing is, anyone with half a brain can see that there is shady shit going on all the time in one form or another, but your overzealous attitude blows alot of people out of the water thinking "fuck this shit, I don't wanna be boxed in with this nutcase".

You can understand this, right ?

So instead of shouting "A AND THEREFORE B AND THEREFORE C", you might wanna go with "Hey look at this A, and what about this B, not to mention C lol".

also Roald toptiertrolllol

Get my drift ?

On May 19 2012 11:59 D_smart_S wrote: Show nested quote + On May 19 2012 10:16 Fudyann wrote: The thing I hate most about these type of threads is that there are going to be some actual conspiracies and after all this bullshit no one is going to pay any attention to them. Please give me some of the real conspiracy theories. So you judge a theory by the validity of other non-related theories? Very smart, very smart...

I give you one conspiracy. There are two brother who own around 80 Billion dollars and they own many businesses in oil and mining. They are very political in USA. As a matter of fact one of the brothers was on the vice president's ticket in the 1980s USA election. But he didn't win. After loosing he said all politicians are actors and from now on I want to try writing the scripts instead of doing the acting.

They started donating to campaigns of politicians in DC and local elections to push their agenda. Tax cuts for the rich. De-regulating financial trades, mining and ... Since they started doing these stuff their income and the income of rich has gone higher and higher and average Joe's middle class income is going down and down. The politicians have to bend to these guys demands bc if they don't, they won't have the money and will loose their elections. Also they come to politicians and say if you play ball with us while you are in the office then you will get millions of dollars after you retire from congress. Problem is that they made this is all 100% legal too!

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On May 19 2012 11:59 D_smart_S wrote: Show nested quote + On May 19 2012 10:16 Fudyann wrote: The thing I hate most about these type of threads is that there are going to be some actual conspiracies and after all this bullshit no one is going to pay any attention to them. Please give me some of the real conspiracy theories. So you judge a theory by the validity of other non-related theories? Very smart, very smart...

Another Conspiracy theory. When Obama wanted to pass health care, many people from insurance company and pharmaceuticals got picked by DC to come-in and WRITE the bills that would regulate insurance companies and pharmaceuticals!

On May 19 2012 11:59 D_smart_S wrote: Show nested quote + On May 19 2012 10:16 Fudyann wrote: The thing I hate most about these type of threads is that there are going to be some actual conspiracies and after all this bullshit no one is going to pay any attention to them. Please give me some of the real conspiracy theories. So you judge a theory by the validity of other non-related theories? Very smart, very smart...

Another conspiracy. The EX-CEO of Goldman Sachs acting as secretary of treasury in USA decided to step-in and honor AIG's deals with tax payers money. That decision "coincidentally" helped Goldman Sachs to get around 12billion dollar for bets that they owned to others through AIG and on top of that they got around 3 Billion dollar RIGHT TO THEIR BOTTOM LINE (pure profit)!

So while you think that London is about to blow up. Or there is a false flag BS attack in Chicago. The rich are doing whatever the fuck they want. Taking your tax money, killing regulations that should keep average citizen safe. And you can not do a goddamn thing about it. Because you are too busy looking up NWO on YouTube!

if they had a plan you just ruined it

That Silverstein stuff really true ?

On May 19 2012 23:17 capaneo wrote: So while you think that London is about to blow up. Or there is a false flag BS attack in Chicago. The rich are doing whatever the fuck they want. Taking your tax money, killing regulations that should keep average citizen safe. And you can not do a goddamn thing about it. Because you are too busy looking up NWO on YouTube!

A+

On May 20 2012 04:58 VanDerMeyde wrote: That Silverstein stuff really true ?

Yes but nobody comments on it because they didn't read up to that point or maybe because it's too fishy and doesn't support the "it's BS" argument. The guy is just a good investor, that's all. Buys a building that is in dire need of ~200 million dollar renovation and profits very little if anything, insures it against a terrorist attack with a special clause in case of two terrorist attacks, gets two terrorist attacks six weeks later and cashes 4.68 Billion dollars. Even more surprisingly, he and his daughter are missing from the WTC even though they are there every single morning and his daughter works there but hey IT"S ALL A FUCKING COINCIDENCE. Oh man now I just lost my whole argument by doing the capslock thing. FUCK.

So we talking bout conspiracies? Where are the 2.3 TRILLION dollars that went missing from Pentagon? Very few people heard about that massive amount of money disappearing because COINCIDENTIALLY (wait, that's too agressive as brambolous said)uh uhm... because it just so happened that by mere chance this happened one day before 9/11 and it never went viral. But it was just 2.3 TRILLION (ok, "trillion", again too aggressive, people would think I am nuts because of the capslock). And what about the missing gold in the Twin Towers safe depository which was one of the biggest in the world to that point. Gone! Without a trace. And it all looks independent on the surface but when you start digging beneath the pile of shit you see everything is connected.

And, brambulous, if you check out my first post here and my first 5-6 pages on the London Olympics thread I wasn't aggressive at all in my writing and was like "is it possible that...?" "what if...". But after that I get too flamed and instead of turning the other cheek I act according to the trolling. And if someone makes up his mind based on capslock and tone - sorry, that just shows emotional instability.

On May 19 2012 13:26 Funktion wrote: It occurs to me that you might also say that because it's on arxiv it means it's legit. Anyone can submit to the archive and it's not peer reviewed (merely moderated). Considering his paper (or should I refer to him as his royal highness, he does claim to be Bosnian royalty afterall, sounds legit) has been out for more than a year and hasn't been published in a journal (that I can find anyway) I think your case for this guy is getting quite slim. But he did update it this year, so good on him for plugging away. No retreat, no surrender and all that.

So you can't check yourself if the alignments really happened and need some guys with glasses to tell you YES or NO. Why is everyone here waiting for someone they like or wikipedia or Obama to say "yes there is a conspiracy" or "yes I confirm the validity". I am not saying that this Bosnian guy is 100% correct but there seems to be a correlation that needs further investigation. Last time I checked every human being had a head and a brain and I can't understand why you all refuse to use it. Searching for proof of conspiracy on wikipedia is like asking Obama if the wars he wages are peaceful operations. Do you really expect an honest confession? Do you expect national (government) television to expose all their dirty clothes. Ever wondered why so many documentaries have not been aired on television even though they have been payed for by them? But then they happened to expose too much so it has to be put under the rug...

On May 20 2012 07:40 handbanana21 wrote: Alot of you guys are being some serious assholes.. The dude made a thread where hes trying to warn americans about a potential problem. Nothing about what he posted forced an opinion on me. I found it informative, ill do some research and come to my own conclusion. This level of trolling is getting way out of hand.

cliff notes? i have a lot of free time but no way i am reading that

On May 20 2012 05:48 D_smart_S wrote: And, brambulous, if you check out my first post here and my first 5-6 pages on the London Olympics thread I wasn't aggressive at all in my writing and was like "is it possible that...?" "what if...". But after that I get too flamed and instead of turning the other cheek I act according to the trolling. And if someone makes up his mind based on capslock and tone - sorry, that just shows emotional instability.

Ok, keep on trucking and see where it gets you, or other people.
Best of luck buddy.

On May 20 2012 07:44 bigredhoss wrote: cliff notes? i have a lot of free time but no way i am reading that

Just read the Silverstein part, all of it. It starts two paragraphs above the picture of the old fag with a grin on his face.

On May 19 2012 23:17 capaneo wrote: So while you think that London is about to blow up. Or there is a false flag BS attack in Chicago. The rich are doing whatever the fuck they want. Taking your tax money, killing regulations that should keep average citizen safe. And you can not do a goddamn thing about it. Because you are too busy looking up NWO on YouTube!

+1, that's why conspiracy theorist are fucking waste of space and the real sheep

oh and it's the 20th today, you warning us worked. you are a hero d smart s

There is a video of a protester being almost run over by a van ( he slided in his front side) - first video in the thread http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1874556/pg1

If anyone's interested in riots and protest, head over to montreal, we are on like 45 days of protests, and like 25 consecutive nightly protests/riots.
69 arrests last night only.
cool beans.

On May 20 2012 12:10 D_smart_S wrote: There is a video of a protester being almost run over by a van ( he slided in his front side) - first video in the thread http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1874556/pg1

You claim this to be your government fabricated false flag attack on May 20th? A pre-scheduled protest on the 19th of May?

So you claim to be the Anti-Christ with a taco bell up your ass?

On May 20 2012 13:56 D_smart_S wrote: So you claim to be the Anti-Christ with a taco bell up your ass?

Not even a warning, mods? Fuck it, let the free market do it's thang.

What if the illuminati come after you D_smart_S ?

fucking coincidence, there was an earthquake on italy... inb4 d_smart comes and says that it was because the Vatican is there, and since (at the moment) 4 people died, they are going to resurrect as the horses of the apocalypse

On May 20 2012 14:33 Syllogism wrote: What if the illuminati come after you D_smart_S ?

lol kill or die.

we should make a special threa for people like d_smart_s

I would have no problem with anything op posted had this been made as a blog. I doubt anyone here would give half as many fucks if it was posted where it belongs: as a blog.

That being said, this is as entertaining as reality tv...So mods really should do what is most +ev for their intent on the website's needs and goals.

That'll be 5K.

really though, shit is weird in this century.

On May 21 2012 00:53 nolan wrote: really though, shit is weird in this century.

WE MADE IT. Sick sweat guys. Hope everyone in Chicago is doing alright.
Thanks for the warning op.
So stoked for the olympics.

On May 21 2012 22:17 Zep wrote: WE MADE IT. Sick sweat guys. Hope everyone in Chicago is doing alright. Thanks for the warning op. So stoked for the olympics.

no problem, Zeppy, always there for you.

btw, we just had a 5.8 here in Bulgaria in the middle of the night. Damn that was scary as shit lol.

No, taco, I am not claiming the Illuminati made the earthquake to piss me off. <---preventive anti-troll protection

So, what do you tell yourself when you write a huge post to warn us of something that didn't happen? not trolling, but actually curious what your thought process is after such an event and your level of skepticism towards the information that made you think there will be afalse-flag

Both the guardian and RT call Chicago a police state (not as if Britain isn't with talking cameras etc.)

They did this as a show of power and as a psychological experiment to see what they can get away with prepare for more of this. The reason people don't see what's going on is because of normalcy bias and other psychological defense mechanisms that sadly the elite have counted on.

Logically think what has happened since 9/11 multiple attacks on the constitution in the name of 'keeping you safe from CIA backed Al Qaeda'.
The NDAA allows the government to detain you indefinitely without trial and use torture. There are spy drones flying around. The NSA is working with google. The CPS is using psychotropic drugs on a majority of the foster children (maybe this is nothing new)

http://rt.com/usa/news/chicago-police-nato-men-802/
http://rt.com/usa/news/parents-child-daughter-rachel-619/
http://rt.com/usa/news/detention-amendment-ndaa-rep-599/
http://rt.com/usa/news/drone-plane-colorado-pilot-529/

are you saying mortensen, that you were trolled by the illuminati?


Most the world is a police state.
Scratch that, the world is a police state.

On May 22 2012 06:45 Mortensen8 wrote: They did this as a show of power and as a psychological experiment to see what they can get away with prepare for more of this. The reason people don't see what's going on is because of normalcy bias and other psychological defense mechanisms that sadly the elite have counted on.

psychological defense mechanisms, like for example, being wrong, but un capable of facing that reality, to the point that your brain reinvents the scenario? in this case that the Illuminati were trolling us..

To varying degrees China is on one end of the spectrum. Freedom is a relatively new concept, didn't last long.

First they will have to disarm the public. If you have time read this quote that I typed out from no longer published book Tragedy & Hope, Carroll Quigley
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(hopefully I didn't skip anything)

I never said there would be an attack. I posted in this thread with my other agenda because I don't want to make new threads. The fact that you are arguing about someone being wrong tells me that you're not looking at the bigger picture and becoming caught up in meaningless internet victories.

@Mortensen8 and D_smart. Can you please answer this question for me.

What does this group of elites want to do that they can not do right now? I am talking about their goal and main purpose not just blowing shit up for fun and to scare people. Tell me WHY they want to scare people.

To scare they are slowly normalizing the police state so people will just accept it look up learned helplessness.

Bigger picture and crazy theory is loot the degenerating western civilization before it disappears. Or creating a one world government out of the inevitable collapse. Or reduce the population drastically creating an underclass of workers living in overpopulated cities, while they can enjoy nature to themselves and using technology, eugenics, wealth and power to become unchallenged. Or a combination of it all hahaha yes go ahead and laugh.

On May 22 2012 08:21 capaneo wrote: @Mortensen8 and D_smart. Can you please answer this question for me. What does this group of elites want to do that they can not do right now? I am talking about their goal and main purpose not just blowing shit up for fun and to scare people. Tell me WHY they want to scare people.

Why do rich people want to get richer? I mean you were talking about the Koch Brothers and after reading a little, I don't see how you can know about their story and not believe that people are power hungry as hell.
And scared people are easier to control, I mean even if the twin towers were Osama's doing, it did provide support for an unjust and criminal war from the american people, a war that the UN declared illegal, a war that gave America a nice way into the middle east and it's petrolium. I think that never would they have accepted it if they were not scared/sad/angry because of the twin towers... I don't really understand your question, seems to me your will to discredit them is getting in the way of you thinking critically. I mean who cares if it's illuminati or not, if there are clues or not, the fact is that rich people are doing whatever the fuck they want and if you think they will stop for things like human lives than I hope you are right because I don't have your faith in humankind.

And also his answer is a world government, how often did he say it? Are you actually reading his threads or just posting arguments? The main thing idea is scare people - get them to accept giving you more power for ''freedom'' and ''war on terror'' and repeat until they have more power. Assuming there are people who want more power, whoever they are, than it makes a lot of sense to use false flag operations.. I mean if they think that having a one wolrd government could actually solve problems, they might even delude themselves into sacrificing people for the greater good.

Also, just look at christianity, if that's not scaring people into submission then I don't know what is...

Maybe I am wrong and just didn't get your question, feel free to correct me.

On May 22 2012 03:43 D_smart_S wrote: Show nested quote + On May 21 2012 22:17 Zep wrote: WE MADE IT. Sick sweat guys. Hope everyone in Chicago is doing alright. Thanks for the warning op. So stoked for the olympics. no problem, Zeppy, always there for you. btw, we just had a 5.8 here in Bulgaria in the middle of the night. Damn that was scary as shit lol. No, taco, I am not claiming the Illuminati made the earthquake to piss me off. <---preventive anti-troll protection

Congrats one of an estimated 1319 per year of that magnitude, I wonder what heavenly bodies were aligned to cause it? Too bad it wasn't big enough to be included in the good doctors research.

Bigger picture and crazy theory is loot the degenerating western civilization before it disappears. Or creating a one world government out of the inevitable collapse. Or reduce the population drastically creating an underclass of workers living in overpopulated cities, while they can enjoy nature to themselves and using technology, eugenics, wealth and power to become unchallenged. Or a combination of it all hahaha yes go ahead and laugh.

Could you explain some more about the degeneration of the western civilization?

And what do you mean by reducing the population to create an underclass of workers living in OVERPOPULATED cities? I mean how does reducing the population lead to OVERPOPULATED cities and a new underclass? Wouldn't those goals be rather achieved by increasing the population drastically?

I mean I'm genuinely fascinated and would greatly appreciate an answer.

On May 22 2012 10:27 auffenpuffer wrote: Show nested quote + Bigger picture and crazy theory is loot the degenerating western civilization before it disappears. Or creating a one world government out of the inevitable collapse. Or reduce the population drastically creating an underclass of workers living in overpopulated cities, while they can enjoy nature to themselves and using technology, eugenics, wealth and power to become unchallenged. Or a combination of it all hahaha yes go ahead and laugh. Could you explain some more about the degeneration of the western civilization? And what do you mean by reducing the population to create an underclass of workers living in OVERPOPULATED cities? I mean how does reducing the population lead to OVERPOPULATED cities and a new underclass? Wouldn't those goals be rather achieved by increasing the population drastically? I mean I'm genuinely fascinated and would greatly appreciate an answer.

Reducing the population and then putting *ALL* of them into cities. Enjoying the rest of the world for themselves.

SO like, kill everyone who isnt in a huge city right now, block off all exits in the city and have the rest of the world to themselves. (Oversimplification just to illustrate what he meant)

On May 22 2012 09:43 smallnoob wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2012 08:21 capaneo wrote: @Mortensen8 and D_smart. Can you please answer this question for me. What does this group of elites want to do that they can not do right now? I am talking about their goal and main purpose not just blowing shit up for fun and to scare people. Tell me WHY they want to scare people. Why do rich people want to get richer? I mean you were talking about the Koch Brothers and after reading a little, I don't see how you can know about their story and not believe that people are power hungry as hell. And scared people are easier to control, I mean even if the twin towers were Osama's doing, it did provide support for an unjust and criminal war from the american people, a war that the UN declared illegal, a war that gave America a nice way into the middle east and it's petrolium. I think that never would they have accepted it if they were not scared/sad/angry because of the twin towers... I don't really understand your question, seems to me your will to discredit them is getting in the way of you thinking critically. I mean who cares if it's illuminati or not, if there are clues or not, the fact is that rich people are doing whatever the fuck they want and if you think they will stop for things like human lives than I hope you are right because I don't have your faith in humankind. And also his answer is a world government, how often did he say it? Are you actually reading his threads or just posting arguments? The main thing idea is scare people - get them to accept giving you more power for ''freedom'' and ''war on terror'' and repeat until they have more power. Assuming there are people who want more power, whoever they are, than it makes a lot of sense to use false flag operations.. I mean if they think that having a one wolrd government could actually solve problems, they might even delude themselves into sacrificing people for the greater good. Also, just look at christianity, if that's not scaring people into submission then I don't know what is... Maybe I am wrong and just didn't get your question, feel free to correct me.

I didn't argue. I asked a question. I know a couple of super rich folks. And their political views is FAAR to the right of me. But by looking at them and Koch brothers I can tell you that none of them are Evil like you want to believe they are. NOBODY goes to bed thinking of depopulation the earth. Thats just crazy talk.

They TRULY believe that many of their ideas will help the general population. I also personally think that a "world government" is not really a bad thing. Taxing people in USA and Europe and giving the money to poor people in Africa. Regulating and policing global problems such as ocean pollution, climate change, human right violation, war, gun/drug traffic and ... are brilliant ideas that needs a WorldGoverment.

you say "rich people are doing whatever the fuck they want" . And that proves my point. They do not need to bring down WTC or do false flags to do something. That is what the definition of "doing whatever they want" is.

And one last thing...

I had this conversation with Baal and other conspiracy theories on this site before. You argument is a false at its core.

If rich are so powerful that they can change the government and control all the laws and run huge operations like 9/11 then they don't need to do false flags and 9/11 and ... BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY POWERFUL to do whatever they want.

I've come to realist that it's impossible to reason with these masses of leftists/socialists that the system pumps out nowadays they just want to give away rights 'for the greater good' well the road to hell is paved in good intentions and if you think that there is some globalist utopia at the end of the tunnel gl with that.

The demoralization process is now complete.
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Because of the constitution they still had not completely taken over.

What was the other question yes auffenpuffer if you don't see the degeneration of mainstream media and culture of western civilization then I think you should look again.

On May 22 2012 06:41 uiCk wrote: So, what do you tell yourself when you write a huge post to warn us of something that didn't happen? not trolling, but actually curious what your thought process is after such an event and your level of skepticism towards the information that made you think there will be a false-flag

I'm really curious as well. Can you admit you were totally wrong? I have my doubts.
Have you ever heard of the fable, 'The Boy Who Cried Wolf'?

Sneak peek at what I have planned for the conclusion of the olympic games. I'm going to flame the living shit out of this schizophrenic retard:

LOL I was just thinking about blue clues and D_Smart_S

Here is my answer to capaneo.

The Elite wants a One World Government, ruled by them. How can they make over 6 billion people to accept that when everyone starts to realise that the Big Players, the big bankers and guys of that calibre are not dealing well with the situation. Economical crysis, the middle class has almost disappeared, the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and in more and more debt. As Zbigniew Brzezinski once said in front of other world leaders - never before has the world been more awakened politically. So how are they going to remain on top when everyone starts to realise what the whole game is? They can't put 6 billion people in prison or in a barn or something like that. The only way to control that many people is to control their minds through propaganda and other mind-control mechanisms.

But what happens when even that isn't enough and people start awaken more and more every day? You scare the shit out of them, fear and insecurity starts crawling up their spine and they just want it to end, the Elite saves the day by winning the battle against the imaginary evil (whatever they choose it to be) and then the people love them. The Elite proposes that everyone unites for there will be no more wars and famine. However, there will be a few things that people will have to do in order to secure a peaceful One World Order - that's what they would be told. The propaganda may go in many directions but the general idea would be something like this - after several incredibly awful months full of riots, people killing each other and so on, almost anyone would be suspicious of others around them. Kids had been raped and murdered and so on. The government would say that everyone would need to be chipped for their security of course. The chip will be said to have many good properties - it will track your kids so that they don't get lost or kidnapped, you will be able to buy food without having to take cash with you or use any cards because lasers will identify the chip and will subtract money automatically. Sounds good. But who gives you the chip? The Government or a company/corporation that is controlled by them. It will track your ass everywhere so you have 0 privacy. They will be able to hear everything you say and if you oppose the government they can deal with you in many different ways.



For example, if you oppose the establishment, they will switch your chip off and you can't buy food or water. Yeah, it's that easy, a click on a button. Right now there is patented technology that tunes to your brainwaves and talks to you telepahically. You hear it but others don't. The chip may be a receiver of such frequencies and they will be able to control very directly or at least make you crazy if you don't obey. The chip may have a deadly dose of a poison. You only need a tiny tiny grain of ricin in your body to kill you. Not that difficult to implement it in a chip with a remote release mechanism. They can have many different chemicals that will be released based on what they need to make you do. Put you in a depression, make you more controllable - zombie mode, and so on. It's not a matter of are they able to make this happen. The technologies are already available and patented. The question is are they really going to be that drastic and if you know their agenda well enough you will be sure that they want it. The idea is to make human beings more and more robotic, less emotional, less humane, less empathetic, more submissive and easy to control.

As you can understand from the written above - it is all very logical. You may think that the Illuminati do not exist, you may think that there is no such plan and that's fine - everyone can have an opinion. But I ask you this:

If the Illuminati exist, and if they want to control people like robots working for them, does the plan mentioned above make logical sense? If you make a movie, would the audience understand it? It would certainly make a great and deep movie and it certainly makes logical sense so all you need to do is research IF the Illuminati exist and are they really as cruel as I describe them.

One can clearly see the robotization of the world. Many movies have been made on that topic. Even more movies have been made on "controlled society". Those that come to mind are I, Robot (robotization, not controlled society), V for Vendetta and the movie that Justin Timberlake and some chick have clocks on their arms and they die when it runs out. On one hand they use predictive programming to show us how life in the future should be and that a controlled society is the normal society, the one that is to be expected. Many more movies and songs are out there and brainwash people into believing that the robotization will make us more powerful and reach superhero abilities. The truth is EXACTLY the opposite but that's a long topic. They just want to put a Trojan Horse in our bodies (chip) so they can control us from within. This chip is also known as the Mark of the Beast.If they manage to complete their task at chipping the whole world (not 6 billion but maybe 5-10% of that after the major famine and crysis), then there will be no turning back. It would be like a rabbit trying to escape from the highest security prison. Right now, they have the upper hand but we can still come out victorious. But if they put that Trojan Horse it's all over.



wikipedia:

In June 1979, an unknown person or persons under the pseudonym R. C. Christian hired Elberton Granite Finishing Company to build the structure.

The Georgia Guidestones is a large granite monument in Elbert County, Georgia, USA. A message comprising ten guides is inscribed on the structure in eight modern languages, and a shorter message is inscribed at the top of the structure in four ancient languages' scripts: Babylonian, Classical Greek, Sanskrit, and Egyptian hieroglyphs.
The structure is sometimes referred to as an "American Stonehenge."1] The monument is 19 feet 3 inches (5.87 m) tall, made from six granite slabs weighing more than 240,000 pounds (110,000 kg) in all.[2] One slab stands in the center, with four arranged around it. A capstone lies on top of the five slabs, which are astronomically aligned. An additional stone tablet, which is set in the ground a short distance to the west of the structure, provides some notes on the history and purpose of the Guidestones.

A message consisting of a set of ten guidelines or principles is engraved on the Georgia Guidestones in eight different languages, one language on each face of the four large upright stones. Moving clockwise around the structure from due north, these languages are: English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese, and Russian.

Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.

Unite humanity with a living new language.

Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.

Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.

Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.

Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

Balance personal rights with social duties.

Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.

Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.



You need to pay attention to the first and last guide-point. The rest is just to make it look like it has good intentions.
So some average Joe buys these massive stones for many thousands of dollars. Spends a lot of money for them to be incripted in many languages some of which known fluently by only a handful experts, pays for a crane to put them in place and it just stays there as some guide for life. Who is this guy, who spends a whole fortune and time on these stone structures without having any gain? Or maybe it's not an average Joe...

Edit: to the "they don't need a false flag if they are already too powerful" - This is totally wrong, capaneo. They are trying to fool 6 billion people that what they do is fair, legal and justified. How do you justify numerous wars with numerous countries (all of them oil/resource-rich) and fighting an imaginary enemy that they can't find anywhere ( they always know in which country Al Qaeda is, they just can't kill them... too many caves yo). So they needed that 9/11. It kick-started the whole WAR ON TERROR that is the reason for their actions. Otherwise people wouldn't be pissed off at all and they would be like "why do you attack them, they didn't do anything to me". After the war on terror was in the hearts of Americans and people around the Globe all they needed to do is say "he is a terrorist" or "he has a weapon of mass destruction" and the death of millions is justified. Their power comes from us. We want security from them, we want Iraq to be attacked, we want billions of dollars spent on military and killing people. They have to keep us angry and fearful, wanting revenge. That's why 9/11 and other false-flag attacks are needed for their agenda to come to life.

ouguise...

So you weren't wrong about Chicago? Funny how quickly you change subjects.

You fail at understanding the scientific method. Every argument you make takes on the same logic as ancient aliens. "I'm not saying it is necessarily this, I'm just saying it could be this...the logic makes sense to me so therefore it has to be correct" FAIL. But please keep writing. I want to have as much material as possible to flame you from in mid-August.

On May 22 2012 14:47 Zep wrote: So you weren't wrong about Chicago? Funny how quickly you change subjects.

This thread as I already said numerous times is about warning and informing. Just as in poker, you work with percentages given the information you can deduct from your opponent and tighten the range of his possible holdings. The percentage was high enough for me to make the thread. Nothing happened, yes. So what? If you see a 5-year-old ready to be hit by a car do you wait for a scientific proof and see if it's hit or do you warn the child/do something before it's too late. If i can tell the future, it will be easier. But I can't, so if I see a possible threat, I tell others. I don't see anythin negative resulting from this thread. Except for the trolling.

Another thing you don't understand, Zep is that we only see the end result. There are many good forces working against the Illuminati and nobody knows if there was a plan that was delayed/countered or there wasn't a plan. This thread certainly had no impact on that so don't say "oh now you say that because of your warn, the plan was countered." This thread was only aimed at informing and warning of a possible threat. Nothing more, nothing less.

On May 22 2012 14:09 D_smart_S wrote: Right now there is patented technology that tunes to your brainwaves and talks to you telepahically. You hear it but others don't. The chip may be a receiver of such frequencies and they will be able to control very directly or at least make you crazy if you don't obey. The chip may have a deadly dose of a poison... Not that difficult to implement it in a chip with a remote release mechanism. They can have many different chemicals that will be released based on what they need to make you do. Put you in a depression, make you more controllable - zombie mode, and so on. It's not a matter of are they able to make this happen. The technologies are already available and patented. ...As you can understand from the written above - it is all very logical.

Yes totally logical no one would ever call bullshit on this. Actually funny this is mentioned because I'm just about to pop down the shops and buy a new telepathic chip that has an unlimited amount of chemicals inside and a small dose of poison. I hope the line up to get a new one is not too long.

Fucking twonk.

On May 22 2012 14:57 D_smart_S wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2012 14:47 Zep wrote: So you weren't wrong about Chicago? Funny how quickly you change subjects. This thread as I already said numerous times is about warning and informing. Just as in poker, you work with percentages given the information you can deduct from your opponent and tighten the range of his possible holdings. The percentage was high enough for me to make the thread. Nothing happened, yes. So what? If you see a 5-year-old ready to be hit by a car do you wait and see if it's hit or do you warn the child/do something before it's too late. If i can tell the future, it will be easier. But I can't, so if I see a possible threat, I tell others. I don't see anythin negative resulting from this thread. Except for the trolling.

Your read is dead wrong. That's your biggest flaw if you want to compare it to something else that you have no idea about.

"I don't see anything negative resulting from this thread"
So if this site was nothing but speculation based upon flawed evidence, you don't think poker players would stop going to this site?
You turn people away from this site. That's a fairly negative consequence for a website. Fucking moron.

On May 22 2012 08:15 Mortensen8 wrote: I never said there would be an attack. I posted in this thread with my other agenda because I don't want to make new threads. The fact that you are arguing about someone being wrong tells me that you're not looking at the bigger picture and becoming caught up in meaningless internet victories.

Next time you step into an airport, start yelling BOMB and then later explain to the FBI that you were merely warning people over the possible threat of a bomb. Tell them that they weren't looking at the bigger picture and that arresting you is a meaningless victory.

On May 22 2012 15:13 Zep wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2012 14:57 D_smart_S wrote:   On May 22 2012 14:47 Zep wrote: So you weren't wrong about Chicago? Funny how quickly you change subjects. This thread as I already said numerous times is about warning and informing. Just as in poker, you work with percentages given the information you can deduct from your opponent and tighten the range of his possible holdings. The percentage was high enough for me to make the thread. Nothing happened, yes. So what? If you see a 5-year-old ready to be hit by a car do you wait and see if it's hit or do you warn the child/do something before it's too late. If i can tell the future, it will be easier. But I can't, so if I see a possible threat, I tell others. I don't see anythin negative resulting from this thread. Except for the trolling. Your read is dead wrong. That's your biggest flaw if you want to compare it to something else that you have no idea about. "I don't see anything negative resulting from this thread" So if this site was nothing but speculation based upon flawed evidence, you don't think poker players would stop going to this site? You turn people away from this site. That's a fairly negative consequence for a website. Fucking moron.

Dude, you are like some random guy on a party that comes to me talking to a friend of mine and he's like "let's change the subjects, that's a retarded topic!" It's amazing how addicted you are to keeping track, commenting and spending lots of time in a thread you hate. People who are not interested in this will spend a few seconds. Only people who are interested in the material or trolls like you will read it. You are just a pathetic troll, not the first on the interest, just another one.

On May 22 2012 15:24 D_smart_S wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2012 15:13 Zep wrote:   On May 22 2012 14:57 D_smart_S wrote:   On May 22 2012 14:47 Zep wrote: So you weren't wrong about Chicago? Funny how quickly you change subjects. This thread as I already said numerous times is about warning and informing. Just as in poker, you work with percentages given the information you can deduct from your opponent and tighten the range of his possible holdings. The percentage was high enough for me to make the thread. Nothing happened, yes. So what? If you see a 5-year-old ready to be hit by a car do you wait and see if it's hit or do you warn the child/do something before it's too late. If i can tell the future, it will be easier. But I can't, so if I see a possible threat, I tell others. I don't see anythin negative resulting from this thread. Except for the trolling. Your read is dead wrong. That's your biggest flaw if you want to compare it to something else that you have no idea about. "I don't see anything negative resulting from this thread" So if this site was nothing but speculation based upon flawed evidence, you don't think poker players would stop going to this site? You turn people away from this site. That's a fairly negative consequence for a website. Fucking moron. Dude, you are like some random guy on a party that comes to me talking to a friend of mine and he's like "let's change the subjects, that's a retarded topic!" It's amazing how addicted you are to keeping track, commenting and spending lots of time in a thread you hate. People who are not interested in this will spend a few seconds. Only people who are interested in the material or trolls like you will read it. You are just a pathetic troll, not the first on the interest, just another one.

Why don't you stop posting such retarded nonsense and then I won't have to troll.

On May 22 2012 15:27 Zep wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2012 15:24 D_smart_S wrote:   On May 22 2012 15:13 Zep wrote:   On May 22 2012 14:57 D_smart_S wrote:   On May 22 2012 14:47 Zep wrote: So you weren't wrong about Chicago? Funny how quickly you change subjects. This thread as I already said numerous times is about warning and informing. Just as in poker, you work with percentages given the information you can deduct from your opponent and tighten the range of his possible holdings. The percentage was high enough for me to make the thread. Nothing happened, yes. So what? If you see a 5-year-old ready to be hit by a car do you wait and see if it's hit or do you warn the child/do something before it's too late. If i can tell the future, it will be easier. But I can't, so if I see a possible threat, I tell others. I don't see anythin negative resulting from this thread. Except for the trolling. Your read is dead wrong. That's your biggest flaw if you want to compare it to something else that you have no idea about. "I don't see anything negative resulting from this thread" So if this site was nothing but speculation based upon flawed evidence, you don't think poker players would stop going to this site? You turn people away from this site. That's a fairly negative consequence for a website. Fucking moron. Dude, you are like some random guy on a party that comes to me talking to a friend of mine and he's like "let's change the subjects, that's a retarded topic!" It's amazing how addicted you are to keeping track, commenting and spending lots of time in a thread you hate. People who are not interested in this will spend a few seconds. Only people who are interested in the material or trolls like you will read it. You are just a pathetic troll, not the first on the interest, just another one. Why don't you stop posting such retarded nonsense and then I won't have to troll.

so you feel obligated to troll. Only a troll would say that lolol

just sayin'

-u-u

On May 22 2012 15:31 D_smart_S wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2012 15:27 Zep wrote:   On May 22 2012 15:24 D_smart_S wrote:   On May 22 2012 15:13 Zep wrote:   On May 22 2012 14:57 D_smart_S wrote:   On May 22 2012 14:47 Zep wrote: So you weren't wrong about Chicago? Funny how quickly you change subjects. This thread as I already said numerous times is about warning and informing. Just as in poker, you work with percentages given the information you can deduct from your opponent and tighten the range of his possible holdings. The percentage was high enough for me to make the thread. Nothing happened, yes. So what? If you see a 5-year-old ready to be hit by a car do you wait and see if it's hit or do you warn the child/do something before it's too late. If i can tell the future, it will be easier. But I can't, so if I see a possible threat, I tell others. I don't see anythin negative resulting from this thread. Except for the trolling. Your read is dead wrong. That's your biggest flaw if you want to compare it to something else that you have no idea about. "I don't see anything negative resulting from this thread" So if this site was nothing but speculation based upon flawed evidence, you don't think poker players would stop going to this site? You turn people away from this site. That's a fairly negative consequence for a website. Fucking moron. Dude, you are like some random guy on a party that comes to me talking to a friend of mine and he's like "let's change the subjects, that's a retarded topic!" It's amazing how addicted you are to keeping track, commenting and spending lots of time in a thread you hate. People who are not interested in this will spend a few seconds. Only people who are interested in the material or trolls like you will read it. You are just a pathetic troll, not the first on the interest, just another one. Why don't you stop posting such retarded nonsense and then I won't have to troll. so you feel obligated to troll. Only a troll would say that lolol

Actually the only reason why I am trolling your threads is because they are not in the appropriate part of the website. Like I said before, if this was a blog, I wouldn't say shit.

And speaking of trolling...What business do you have to be on this website? You do realize this is liquidPOKER, correct? The only shit I've seen you post are these retarded warnings and other equally as moronic things completely unrelated to poker. If you have no interest in poker, which clearly you do not, gtfo. Seriously, you have 0 reason to be on this site.

lol thanks for revealing so much of your sharp thinking process.

On May 22 2012 15:56 D_smart_S wrote: lol thanks for revealing so much of your sharp thinking process.

LOLOL. Priceless statement. Thank you so much for this.
I cannot wait to flame you. Please keep on revealing your flawless, sharp thinking process.

Why are you part of liquidPOKER?
Riddle me that, cunt rag.

seriously, not even single poker hand posted yet

Next time you step into an airport, start yelling BOMB and then later explain to the FBI that you were merely warning people over the possible threat of a bomb. Tell them that they weren't looking at the bigger picture and that arresting you is a meaningless victory.

Go back and look at my posts 1st I respond to all the guys completely dismissing everything without researching and then saying that it will make them feel smug if he is wrong (clearly it has).
2nd post Sibel Edmonds fbi whistle blower talks about past events watch video.
3rd post I post a video where Cass Sunstein gets confronted by rudkowski on writing a paper on infiltrating conspiracy theorists.

Now what exactly makes someone so viciously mad as you have become by people discussing conspiracy theories that are not true in your opinion? that you believe should be censored, there is no harm caused by discussing this and it is his right to make a thread if he so wishes.