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Handnr: 1016788
Submitted by : Smuft

***** Hand History for Game 13187361573 *****
$1,000 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, August 07, 14:40:01 EDT 2013
Table City Of Z Real Money
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6/6
Seat 1: BadderHarry $1,091 USD
Seat 5: Ca11MeMaybe $1,308.67 USD
Seat 3: DAVSTER_ $1,000 USD
Seat 2: HATE__POK3R $1,941.34 USD
Seat 6: Hero $1,201.50 USD
Seat 4: nssdk99 $995.72 USD
Ca11MeMaybe posts small blind [$5 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$10 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [6cJc ]
BadderHarry folds
HATE__POK3R folds
DAVSTER_ raises [$25 USD]
nssdk99 calls [$25 USD]
Ca11MeMaybe folds
Hero will be using his time bank for this hand .
Hero raises [$90 USD]
DAVSTER_ folds
nssdk99 calls [$75 USD]

Flop (Pot : $220.00)

   Qc9d2h
Hero will be using his time bank for this hand .
Hero bets [$100 USD]
nssdk99 calls [$100 USD]

Turn (Pot : $420.00)

   Qc9d2h6h
Hero will be using his time bank for this hand .
Hero bets [$200 USD]
nssdk99 calls [$200 USD]

River (Pot : $820.00)

   Qc9d2h6h7c
Hero will be using his time bank for this hand .
Hero checks
nssdk99 is all-In [$595.72 USD]
Hero will be using his time bank for this hand .
Hero calls [$595.72 USD]
villain is a fish

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TalentedTom    Canada. Aug 07 2013 22:50. Posts 20070

seems normal hopyfully he dosn't have the T8o

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AndrewSong    United States. Aug 08 2013 00:13. Posts 2355

dont know about this one. dont like all streets. i think this one is tilt


locoo   Peru. Aug 08 2013 00:40. Posts 4561

absolutely hate preflop unless he is a super passive fit n fold fish, he cant have much draws other than JT

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Smuft   Canada. Aug 08 2013 01:00. Posts 633

yeah you're probably right about preflop, this is probably a profitable flat w/ the fish in the pot getting 4.6:1

For post flop, it feels pretty fine to me. He's the type that's gonna be calling any gutshot, any bd flush draw until he sees the river. Also like the average fish he's likely to raise his nutted hands like sets and AQ before the river AND confirmed not a showdown value random retard bettor (9x, 7x, TT, etc).

KT/KJ/JT/Axhh all in his river range


YoMeR   United States. Aug 08 2013 04:52. Posts 12435

All junky 2 pairs in his range too right?

seems like 3 betting J6s OOP vs fish seems like lighting money on fire unless good reason

seems kinda bad to me overall. Do you really need to be doing stuff like this to crush a fish in these games? seems pretty silly.

eZ Life. 

TalentedTom    Canada. Aug 08 2013 15:50. Posts 20070

everything up the river is very questionable
river CC is the only part i agree w/ here

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

Smuft   Canada. Aug 08 2013 16:58. Posts 633

whats wrong with cbetting 1/2 pot (auto profit if he folds 1/3 of the time) with equity?

I'm turning a club or a T for a FD or OESD on 13 cards
6 pair outs too that are not totally worthless (turn J can be checked down to win sometimes, 6 can be used as a bluff catcher)

Do you want to check the turn? I could see that being very good if I had some reads on his ranges/sizing but I didnt have that so I still prefer betting w/ the intention of x/c'ing any blank river.

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btw bad form saying this is "normal" then rechiming in with every street is questionable except river after everyone shits on me^^


ugly   . Aug 08 2013 17:07. Posts 162

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MARSHALL28   United States. Aug 08 2013 17:43. Posts 1897

ya dont like any street


Smuft   Canada. Aug 08 2013 17:59. Posts 633

challenge one of you to offer a reasonable argument why flop cbet here is bad - preferably including some assumptions and ranges

 Last edit: 08/08/2013 18:21

AndrewSong    United States. Aug 08 2013 18:13. Posts 2355

hes on tilt!! lets all agree, i got stacked in 3k pot tryin to convince him while grinding


PoorUser    United States. Aug 08 2013 18:21. Posts 7471


  On August 08 2013 15:58 Smuft wrote:
whats wrong with cbetting 1/2 pot (auto profit if he folds 1/3 of the time) with equity?

I'm turning a club or a T for a FD or OESD on 13 cards
6 pair outs too that are not totally worthless (turn J can be checked down to win sometimes, 6 can be used as a bluff catcher)



i wonder whats it like to have the state of mind to think that J6c hits Q92 rainbow

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Smuft   Canada. Aug 08 2013 18:37. Posts 633

looooooool life is pretty sick when even pooruser questions my looseness


YoMeR   United States. Aug 08 2013 18:41. Posts 12435

btw kudos for posting this hand...not many other ppl would post hands like this. I would occasionally do so but damn son.

I don't think flop c bet is all too bad if you opt to 3bet a hand like J6c...What I'm saying is why the hell would u play this hand in the first place vs fish. Can easily find better spot to just stack him with a strong hand ya?

eZ Life. 

TalentedTom    Canada. Aug 08 2013 18:53. Posts 20070


  On August 08 2013 15:58 Smuft wrote:
btw bad form saying this is "normal" then rechiming in with every street is questionable except river after everyone shits on me^^




^^ when I said normal I was referring to the river CC. Preflop / turn are the most suspect / inconsistant. Turn bet is contradictory to the preflop / flop play (assuming you think he is a fit or fold fish which makes the 2 streets acceptable, but the turn bet irrational) - on the river there's 48 hand combos of the JT, KJ KT, I would be surprised to see him shove QJ QT or 9x, so I agree w/ your call. But the entire hand is kind of a mess

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

dnagardi   Hungary. Aug 09 2013 07:04. Posts 1776

so what did he have?


Fayth    Canada. Aug 09 2013 10:13. Posts 10085

river call seems close but probably alright vs a fish with your current read
every other streets are meh, flop being the least meh

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MARSHALL28   United States. Aug 10 2013 23:50. Posts 1897


  On August 08 2013 17:37 Smuft wrote:
looooooool life is pretty sick when even pooruser questions my looseness



pooruser actually has the tendency to be a dick pretty often


 

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