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gawdawaful   Canada. Nov 29 2008 05:50. Posts 9013


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Im only good at poker when I run goodLast edit: 13/09/2021 15:49

dogmeat   Czech Republic. Nov 29 2008 06:05. Posts 6374

?

it doesnt seem like u were allin

ban baal 

Babs   Australia. Nov 29 2008 06:23. Posts 1178

lol.

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capaneo   Canada. Nov 29 2008 06:28. Posts 8465

I really tried to care about ur downswing but I couldnts.

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Patrocle   France. Nov 29 2008 07:11. Posts 623

You can help getting this soft better using http://holdemmanager.uservoice.com/ (this is not a stupid rick-roll thing), and especially the all-in ev calculatoir (in multi-way pot, it does take shortstack into account as if there were full stack). With a friend from the french liquidpoker, we had this thread:EV in all-in pots.

What you basically would like is not an EV calculator in the sense of HEM, but a Sklansky Buck's calculator, based in the decisions taken on each streets, correct me if I'm wrong. I think that there exists only one soft of this kind, "Divat", managed by Alberta's university, but it works only for Limit Hold'em Head's up poker.

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Jelle   Belgium. Nov 29 2008 08:06. Posts 3476

u ran below expectation over 1500 hands? unheard of

GroT 

PplusAD   Germany. Nov 29 2008 08:22. Posts 7182

I think the point is HEM EV is not very accurate ?
Hem says his ev vor the AQ vs A5 hand is - 136$
but thats bullshit ofc since when the most of the money got in on flop he was a favourite.

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz) 

the cleaner   Germany. Nov 29 2008 10:07. Posts 3014

clean your desktop dude

there are no facts only interpretations 

dogmeat   Czech Republic. Nov 29 2008 11:33. Posts 6374

it's allin ev ;o

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gawdawaful   Canada. Nov 29 2008 13:15. Posts 9013


  On November 29 2008 07:22 PplusAD wrote:
I think the point is HEM EV is not very accurate ?
Hem says his ev vor the AQ vs A5 hand is - 136$
but thats bullshit ofc since when the most of the money got in on flop he was a favourite.




ding ding ding

I dont know what Jelle is babbling about, the whine blog is the one below not this one.

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Maynard!   United States. Nov 29 2008 16:45. Posts 4453

EV is good for what it calculates: all-in equity. Beyond that it is useless. If you put in 999 dollars on the flop, he hits turn, and you pop in 1 more on turn to go AI it'll calculate based on turn percentages which will show you as huge dog even tho he essentially sucked out.

What is 100% useless is the sklansky bucks calculations.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

Patrocle   France. Nov 29 2008 20:31. Posts 623


  On November 29 2008 15:45 Maynard! wrote:
EV is good for what it calculates: all-in equity. Beyond that it is useless. If you put in 999 dollars on the flop, he hits turn, and you pop in 1 more on turn to go AI it'll calculate based on turn percentages which will show you as huge dog even tho he essentially sucked out.

What is 100% useless is the sklansky bucks calculations.



Hmm, that's complicated cause with sklansky bucks, you should put your opponent on a range, and not on the exact actual hand that vilain has like PokerEv does.

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auffenpuffer   Finland. Dec 05 2008 07:47. Posts 1429

no sklansky bucks are calculated vs the exact hand your opponent happened to have


 



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