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Cro)Deadman   Croatia. Sep 11 2008 03:13. Posts 3943
I have no clue is the fact im winning basically nothing without showdown bad,and should I be working on it...

beside that im pretty much destroying the limit as usual...

Any advice anyone?



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Metagame Purposes.Last edit: 11/09/2008 03:14

Silver_nz   New Zealand. Sep 11 2008 04:16. Posts 5647

breakeven on non-sd is fine imo. depending on how you are playing pf and they type of games you are in. looks like you are playing a nice low variance solid winning style
here's mine NL100 FR:

I've been messing around trying to push nits off hands, and playing like 20/15 at full tables.

obv if you look at the extreme case of a play money table where no one ever folds then all of your winnings have to come from showdown. so breakeven on non-sd is pretty good.

 Last edit: 11/09/2008 04:21

Exhilarate   United States. Sep 11 2008 04:39. Posts 5453

that's actually really good.
how do you do so well in non sd pots?


lachlan   Australia. Sep 11 2008 04:52. Posts 6991

looks good. to compare here is what mine looks like over ~100k sample. (2PTBB/100)



comes down to a matter of style really. do you want to win pots bluffing people off their midstrength hands? or just cooler them with sets/higher overpairs. both work pretty good lol. looks like your graph is like halfway between mine and silvers =D

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lazymej   Canada. Sep 11 2008 05:04. Posts 2897

O_O
How do you guys have break-even and even positive w/o showdown winnings.. My graph looks like lachlan's most of the time...


rogier   Netherlands. Sep 11 2008 05:17. Posts 1528

because you fold too much


lachlan   Australia. Sep 11 2008 05:21. Posts 6991


  On September 11 2008 04:04 lazymej wrote:
O_O
How do you guys have break-even and even positive w/o showdown winnings.. My graph looks like lachlan's most of the time...


hand sample, sacrificing showdown winnings for non-showdown winnings (or offset losses), and probably also more balls to pull off sweet bluffs lol

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Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Sep 11 2008 05:24. Posts 4697

very poorly disguised brag IMO


PplusAD   Germany. Sep 11 2008 06:13. Posts 7180

looks fine.

if ure that much - $$$ in non showdown winnings liek lachlan
-> means ure a giant nit and fold way too much

However if he is still winning its okay i guess

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz) 

lachlan   Australia. Sep 11 2008 06:50. Posts 6991


  On September 11 2008 05:13 PplusAD wrote:
looks fine.

if ure that much - $$$ in non showdown winnings liek lachlan
-> means ure a giant nit and fold way too much

However if he is still winning its okay i guess


haha yea, but look at my sweet showdown winnings! i put my heart and soul into getting that

if only i could eliminate my red line i would be 10k richer T_T

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Cro)Deadman   Croatia. Sep 11 2008 07:15. Posts 3943


  On September 11 2008 03:39 Exhilarate wrote:
that's actually really good.
how do you do so well in non sd pots?



good game theory understanding and decent hand reading.

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Zografa   Bulgaria. Sep 11 2008 07:36. Posts 962

i don't know exactly what means that you have negative non showdown winnings but i have like 350k hands on 1/2 6 max and i am a good winner there(4.5/100) and like 100k hands on 2/4 6max where i do also fine(2.5/100) and my non showdown winnings are ALWAYS negative

The fish call, the shark raise. 

Syntax   United States. Sep 11 2008 10:07. Posts 4415


  On September 11 2008 06:15 Cro)Deadman wrote:
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good game theory understanding and decent hand reading.

lol.

wut wut wut 

VanDerMeyde   Norway. Sep 11 2008 12:52. Posts 5108

move up to 1-2 nit

:D 

Cro)Deadman   Croatia. Sep 11 2008 13:20. Posts 3943


  On September 11 2008 09:07 Syntax wrote:
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lol.



its a obv level.

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Syntax   United States. Sep 11 2008 13:50. Posts 4415

For some reason, i have a hard time believing that you don't actually think you're good at poker.

Oh yeah, that's right, because you're full of shit.

wut wut wut 

Cro)Deadman   Croatia. Sep 11 2008 14:02. Posts 3943

lol wut,i am good at poker,im just not as good in poker as I want to be tho...

2 big diffrences.

and that really is a level and its kinda hard to understand why but I think exhil will pick up on it if he gives it any thought.

Metagame Purposes.Last edit: 11/09/2008 14:03

traxamillion   United States. Sep 11 2008 15:35. Posts 10468

everyone nitty at fr ez to get non-showdown in the black


 



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