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Surprise   United States. Aug 08 2011 12:52. Posts 275 | | |
New Girah Conspiracy Theory
-Girah had legitimate results, but somewhat hyped up skills. His dream run up the stakes of online poker evidently never included a major downswing lower than -15BI. He therefore never developed the ability to deal with a downswing on an emotional level. He went on a downswing and got a stake from Jman + DIH. His downswing continued and he was now 50k in makeup. Despite assurances from DIH and Jman that this was acceptable, he could not stand to be that much in debt and resorted to an insane and stupid scam in order to make it up and get back on his own money. |
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o ya fixed
I always think jungleman = jman galfond = galfond imo
the only prob with that theory is DOG's behavior around it all.. he tried to cover up the scam. and he himself has made it known that he has access to the girah account and has played under it at least once. he also hasn't been very forthright in response to it all. Granted, his long ass blog post is in accordance with his usual writing style, but it isn't what this situation called for and doesn't qualify as an appropriate breakdown of his relationship with Girah IMO.
furthermore when DOG was trying to cover up the scam he still intended to move in with jose (who was then a known and admitted scammer) as long as it all blew over.. |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Aug 08 2011 13:07. Posts 15163 | | |
| On August 08 2011 10:49 longple wrote:
cliffnotes any1? ^_^ |
So there was this kid playing euro sites suspiciously quickly climbing the ranks of poke... wait a second, did Haseeb write your suspiciously well written 'revelation' blog post too? Who's backing you? The truth will always come out, no point in trying to hide it |
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ok fuck quotes I don't get how they work
DOGISHEAD SAID:
"Once we knew Jose had scammed us as well, we knew we had to be very careful with how we proceeded, and if Jose was some kind of con artist then a whole lot could go wrong if he felt cornered enough to cut and run. I think with substantial sums of our money in his account, it's not hard to understand why we didn't want this going public immediately and basically having him lose all incentive to protect his reputation in general or with us.
Also, it's blowing my mind how easy you people think it is to invent a person and to get him sponsored, how to get tens of high stakes players to acknowledge his poker prowess, and that I'd have the time, know-how, or foresight to do all of this. Like I said before, if all of this was a scam that Jose was setting up - then the scam was already in place. All he had to do was keep collecting checks for making videos, his sponsorships, show up and donk around at some tourneys and become legit poker famous. And then, to top it all off, to agree to pay people back on top of reparations? It doesn't make sense as a premeditated scam. At all. Which is why I have trouble believing he invented everything as one giant trick or something."
post from Haseeb just a moment ago in the 2p2 thread
personally.. his actions, specifically the attempt to keep Jose's scamming underwraps does make some sense in this context but I have a strong niggling feeling that there's still more here, due to Haseeb's deceitful reputation and how much he has invested in Jose (he's spent quite a bit of time acting as his pseudo-agent.. I don't feel like tracking down the post that outlined all of the things he's done for him but its much more than just editing Jose's posts)
haseeb making a bunch of posts in 2p2 atm |
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Gumster   Sweden. Aug 08 2011 14:04. Posts 2290 | | |
| On March 03 2011 15:49 Gumster wrote:
its fake obv, should've fucking guessed it at the lawyer part, if not then this:
"I am José, the so called 'Portuguese poker prodigy'."
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as far as the conspiracy theory of Girah being a made up personality, I keep wondering to myself "whats the motivation for DOG to put in so much work?" (which he says girah never paid him for but was supposed to pay an undetermined amount at an undetermined "eventually".
Someone made a pretty good post on 2p2: Jose and his big reputation could give very expensive coaching, and be sponsored, while giving a cut to DOG for putting him in that position. Along with having a credibly good/unsuspiscious account to crush Euro's with via multi accounting, it seems to be sufficient motivation.
god I'm so bored and OD'd on caffeine sry for spam XD going to try to lay off until something real interesting happens |
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lucifer   Sweden. Aug 08 2011 14:34. Posts 5955 | | |
| On August 08 2011 05:41 Dogishead wrote:
Obviously, it was very wrong of me to do that, on several levels. It's one of those things that happens and that everybody does and has been guilty of at one time or another, but yes, I acknowledge that it was wrong. |
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On February 19 2009 22:21 Confedrate wrote: i dont get it | Last edit: 08/08/2011 14:36 |
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looserSR   Slovakia. Aug 08 2011 14:35. Posts 95 | | |
| On August 07 2011 10:31 Oly wrote:
This is so fucking weird now that numerous others are saying he scammed them; it's like a spot where no value hands or bluffs make sense. My current theory, which makes as little sense as anything else but just for fun is:
Jose was paid by jungle/sauce/pitf as a shill to allow them to multiaccount and play on euro sites as originally suspected, he then used the reputation he gained to go mad scamming on his own for small sums because he wasn't actually making that much himself.
If anyone lays me 10-1 on this version I'll put a few hundo on it... |
this exactly |
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Highcard   Canada. Aug 08 2011 15:15. Posts 5428 | | |
Night, don't stop posting you are good for this tread. Fuck shit is getting real now, wonder what Dog will do after this soul crushing |
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YoMeR   United States. Aug 08 2011 16:26. Posts 12435 | | |
so basically from the little i read brilliant poker players who are probably bad at many other things get fucked over/get involved with scummy people and hilarity and shitstorm ensues.
now it looks like a lot of people are making a lot of excuses etc tryign to make themselves look better.
hard to sift through pages and pages of text though. |
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Joe   Czech Republic. Aug 08 2011 17:00. Posts 5987 | | |
Just to make sure who DogIsHead is:
Is it the same guy who used the nicknames Moloch, Ipokeder and PokerInTheFace quite a long time ago here at LP and at PS. Then built up a pretty bad reputation here at LP and was forced to stop posting here? |
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he is definitely ipokeder
I wasn't around so dunno about the rest |
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lucifer   Sweden. Aug 08 2011 17:24. Posts 5955 | | |
wait wait wait He is THAT ipokeder?
oh lol.
The hilarity increased by a GAZILJON |
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On February 19 2009 22:21 Confedrate wrote: i dont get it | |
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goose58   United States. Aug 08 2011 17:33. Posts 871 | | |
Yes Joe, and when I knew him he went by the name of "Trevor". 6 years ago when we played brood war together. Nobody else finds it funny that he never goes to live events? |
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Joe   Czech Republic. Aug 08 2011 17:36. Posts 5987 | | |
| On August 08 2011 16:18 Night2o1 wrote:
he is definitely ipokeder
I wasn't around so dunno about the rest |
If he is Ipokeder then he is Moloch and PokerInTheFace for sure too - those were his LP id's, Ipokeder his PS screenname.
I considered it shady from the beginning when I didnt realise who DogIsHead was, but now it got way shadier for me. |
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there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell) | |
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looserSR   Slovakia. Aug 08 2011 17:37. Posts 95 | | |
| On August 08 2011 16:00 Joe wrote:
Just to make sure who DogIsHead is:
Is it the same guy who used the nicknames Moloch, Ipokeder and PokerInTheFace quite a long time ago here at LP and at PS. Then built up a pretty bad reputation here at LP and was forced to stop posting here? |
yes, in 2 + 2 thread i saw someone called him moloch and i know he used to use ipokeder nick too, then created Dogishead becasue some shady things/bad reputation with Ipokeder nick |
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EvilSky   Czech Republic. Aug 08 2011 17:37. Posts 8915 | | |
| On August 08 2011 16:00 Joe wrote:
Just to make sure who DogIsHead is:
Is it the same guy who used the nicknames Moloch, Ipokeder and PokerInTheFace quite a long time ago here at LP and at PS. Then built up a pretty bad reputation here at LP and was forced to stop posting here? |
didnt he ask to be banned himself cuz he was trolling too much? |
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Mariuslol   Norway. Aug 08 2011 17:39. Posts 4742 | | |
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Mariuslol   Norway. Aug 08 2011 17:40. Posts 4742 | | |
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