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a year ago i could've never imagined this, but now this isn't shocking at allt. Thank god I moved my entire roll to stars in january. For players who did have a lot on FTP, i can't even imagine what this feels like.

On June 30 2011 00:10 byrnesam wrote: remember when Joe Sebok promised to get to the bottom of the UB scandal, get HH and expose those responsible what amazing moral integrity he had.

can you clarify what he did?

signed sponsorship deal with UB under the guise that he was going to get HH, get money back, expose the people who were involved and pull all kinds of wizardry to become a folk hero in poker.
then never delivered on any of it and became a shill for UB / laughing stock.

Whilst i trust FTP/Dwan more than UB/Sebok, lets not forget, Dwan is a paid employee of the company and talk is cheap...

Everyone should assume the worst imo.

im pretty confident dwan wont come through with all the promises and is trying hard now to wiggle out of that declaration lol

On June 30 2011 02:25 whamm! wrote: im pretty confident dwan wont come through with all the promises and is trying hard now to wiggle out of that declaration lol

but you are always confident in doom lol

On June 30 2011 02:25 whamm! wrote: im pretty confident dwan wont come through with all the promises and is trying hard now to wiggle out of that declaration lol

do you want to bet on it?, i mean you are pretty confident, what odds you give me that IF ftp doesnt pay BRs Dwan doesnt ship the 1M either.

He declared more than 1Million dollars. He also stated he will be paying back everything FTP paid him, which can amount to a lot of money and run into the millions(very unrealistic). I would take you up on that bet but it's pretty hard to keep checking on what kind of timetable we are talking about, and I can't really bet for a ton of money. I also do not want to wish that FTP does not pay so the bet that I can afford won't be worth seeing a lot of people I know suffer if I win the bet. When I first heard about the 1M I felt Dwan would pull through, but after reading about the extra money thing, plus the logistical hurdles of to who the fuck he'll be giving/distributing the money to is close to impossible.


Not in any way saying Dwan is an asshole or anything, I think that he really stood up for the players online, its just that it is very unrealistic for him to follow through this time, he may have been mislead, misinformed or just as naive as us with regards to the situation. Again Dwan won't pay because he doesnt want to, its just going to be too damn hard to do so. Between his and Ivey's actions since Black Friday, I definitely find his statements to be more pro active, sincere and helpful to the players affected.

C'mon, Dwan knows how much money he has and how much FTP paid him and isn't planning on going anywhere so people will be paid 100%.

thanks a lot for the posts David.

good luck to everyone.

Dwan/galfond is a victim just like us. I think they both should get a pass and keep their money.

On June 30 2011 03:57 whamm! wrote: He declared more than 1Million dollars. He also stated he will be paying back everything FTP paid him, which can amount to a lot of money and run into the millions(very unrealistic). I would take you up on that bet but it's pretty hard to keep checking on what kind of timetable we are talking about, and I can't really bet for a ton of money. I also do not want to wish that FTP does not pay so the bet that I can afford won't be worth seeing a lot of people I know suffer if I win the bet. When I first heard about the 1M I felt Dwan would pull through, but after reading about the extra money thing, plus the logistical hurdles of to who the fuck he'll be giving/distributing the money to is close to impossible. Not in any way saying Dwan is an asshole or anything, I think that he really stood up for the players online, its just that it is very unrealistic for him to follow through this time, he may have been mislead, misinformed or just as naive as us with regards to the situation. Again Dwan won't pay because he doesnt want to, its just going to be too damn hard to do so. Between his and Ivey's actions since Black Friday, I definitely find his statements to be more pro active, sincere and helpful to the players affected.

2 paragraphs to dodge? you cant say "pretty sure of X" then not bet on it, because you are not sure then.

He didnt said extra money, his tweet basically implied that the 1M was pretty much FTPs endorsement so far, and working on a timeframe is quite easy.

On June 30 2011 08:31 AndrewSong wrote: Dwan/galfond is a victim just like us. I think they both should get a pass and keep their money.

they are victims and i wouldnt judge them if they chose to keep their money if they didnt state in public they would donate one million.

On June 30 2011 08:38 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On June 30 2011 08:31 AndrewSong wrote: Dwan/galfond is a victim just like us. I think they both should get a pass and keep their money. they are victims and i wouldnt judge them if they chose to keep their money if they didnt state in public they would donate one million.

Yea, obviously both are gonna pay up. It's just awful for dwan because he's been misinformed one too many times by people in FT. Eitherway, bad PR on his part to gamble 1MIL+ in return of positive public view.

I just hope this somehow turns around. Got 400k locked in FTP and this would bankrupt my life.

apparently FTP is going with Kahnawake Gaming Commission.

On June 30 2011 12:06 Arirang wrote: apparently FTP is going with Kahnawake Gaming Commission.

source dood

On June 30 2011 09:09 AndrewSong wrote: Show nested quote + On June 30 2011 08:38 Baal wrote:   On June 30 2011 08:31 AndrewSong wrote: Dwan/galfond is a victim just like us. I think they both should get a pass and keep their money. they are victims and i wouldnt judge them if they chose to keep their money if they didnt state in public they would donate one million. Yea, obviously both are gonna pay up. It's just awful for dwan because he's been misinformed one too many times by people in FT. Eitherway, bad PR on his part to gamble 1MIL+ in return of positive public view. I just hope this somehow turns around. Got 400k locked in FTP and this would bankrupt my life.

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On June 30 2011 13:34 Highcard wrote: Show nested quote + On June 30 2011 12:06 Arirang wrote: apparently FTP is going with Kahnawake Gaming Commission. source dood

http://www.casinocitytimes.com/news/a...ugh-kahnawake-mohawk-territory-197841

(I've allready tried to post the link without succes , I hope I will not triple post )

On June 30 2011 08:37 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On June 30 2011 03:57 whamm! wrote: He declared more than 1Million dollars. He also stated he will be paying back everything FTP paid him, which can amount to a lot of money and run into the millions(very unrealistic). I would take you up on that bet but it's pretty hard to keep checking on what kind of timetable we are talking about, and I can't really bet for a ton of money. I also do not want to wish that FTP does not pay so the bet that I can afford won't be worth seeing a lot of people I know suffer if I win the bet. When I first heard about the 1M I felt Dwan would pull through, but after reading about the extra money thing, plus the logistical hurdles of to who the fuck he'll be giving/distributing the money to is close to impossible. Not in any way saying Dwan is an asshole or anything, I think that he really stood up for the players online, its just that it is very unrealistic for him to follow through this time, he may have been mislead, misinformed or just as naive as us with regards to the situation. Again Dwan won't pay because he doesnt want to, its just going to be too damn hard to do so. Between his and Ivey's actions since Black Friday, I definitely find his statements to be more pro active, sincere and helpful to the players affected. 2 paragraphs to dodge? you cant say "pretty sure of X" then not bet on it, because you are not sure then. He didnt said extra money, his tweet basically implied that the 1M was pretty much FTPs endorsement so far, and working on a timeframe is quite easy.

what kind of timeframe are we talking about here and for how much?
im not dodging ffs, ive clearly said why im not comfortable in making money out of my "confidence" in something. i dont instabet on stuff just because i feel confident that x will happen, especially when other people i know are affected, but if you insist as long as i can afford the bet and its not a very long timetable ill take u up on that bet.

baal is leveling and attempting to dodge the bet