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Been rollercoastering so hard for a long time emotionally, and it is always such a close reflection to how poker has been going in the last couple days. Obviously this is bad and just trying to "will away" negative feelings really just doesn't work. Like we all know it comes down to balance.. I hope I am making my way towards that as I head into my 2nd week in the gym. I really want to get back into my pre-poker shape and then beyond, but I am afraid to set any real goals because I've mostly failed every goal I've set in the last 11-12 months. I'm just gonna do my best.
Today I randomly clicked on nanonoko and then navigated over to nolan's online results and found it really inspiring. I think I need some more inspiring/motivating type shit to enter my brain during these last 2 months of my poker shot. Cuz if I'm not reasonably solidly at nl100 by Jan 1st I need to dip out of this scene.
Something I've noticed over this whole experience is that it is very difficult for me to take what feels like a "slow and steady" path. Maybe its just how I've ran during my shots and early-moveups and having to move down again every fuckin' time. I dunno.
I feel alright right this second though.. so here goes!
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Oct 22 2010 18:34. Posts 9634 | | |
well pokerwise have you tried coaching ?
It seems to me that you can really help some micro stakes players with their game and that should also help you feel better pokerwise and will also improve your game ... only thing left is if u have the time to invest in that
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Also Lemon is def right im swinging the same way as u guys and im trying to prove to myself that i can actually succeed in poker ( and by that i mean get to 100nl and eventually grind it )
Last month i moved to another country having $ basically enough to live only 2-3 months i was facing a HUGE downswing up till yesterday basically making me go from 50nl down to 10 and i still wont give up
And to be honest if i werent the spoiled brat i am i wouldve succeeded long time ago
Its all about selfcontrol nothing more
Giving up means this game isnt for you which is just another way of saying that you are too lazy/arrogant/whatever to do anything |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Oct 22 2010 18:34. Posts 15163 | | |
You are a lazy spewtard mofo just like me
Every single person can succeed in poker and play at least 3/6 with the right amount of self control and discipline, be it learning, right amount of volume, looking after your body and health so that your brain is always at its peak and you can play long focused sessions, to taking breaks, setting targets, reviewing sessions and being self critical.
Shit, thats hard to do and I am failing as well, not because I suck but because I am lazy or can't push myself to do all those things. And those things are simple easy and everybody knows about them.
But you know what? If you can't work on finding the drive to give something you thoroughly enjoy and that you do full time your best shot, then how the fuck are you going to succeed in life or any other discipline if you quit without doing things you set out for yourself and achieving your potential? |
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whamm!   Albania. Oct 22 2010 19:05. Posts 11625 | | |
just dont give up if you want it bad. i think you do. |
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Oct 22 2010 19:27. Posts 6374 | | |
i m having hardest month in my 2y career coz i cant play my Agame and im spewing for no reason all the time, i guess i burnt out |
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joLin   United States. Oct 22 2010 20:00. Posts 3818 | | |
| On October 22 2010 17:34 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
Every single person can succeed in poker and play at least 3/6 with the right amount of self control and discipline, be it learning, right amount of volume, looking after your body and health so that your brain is always at its peak and you can play long focused sessions, to taking breaks, setting targets, reviewing sessions and being self critical. |
dont know how you figure that everyone has the ability to play at least 3/6. |
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joLin   United States. Oct 22 2010 20:02. Posts 3818 | | |
i also sometimes look at nolans ptr to get inspiration. |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Oct 22 2010 20:06. Posts 15163 | | |
Show me one person that did everything they could and they don't play 3/6 after 3+years |
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joLin   United States. Oct 22 2010 20:12. Posts 3818 | | |
lol i dont personally know any examples but some of the things you mention that you need to be able to play at that level are innate things that not everyone has. not everyone has discipline, logical abilities, etc. its like saying everyone could play in the NBA if they were 7 feet tall but obviously not everyone is born like that. |
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gawdawaful   Canada. Oct 22 2010 20:55. Posts 9012 | | |
| On October 22 2010 19:12 joLin wrote:
lol i dont personally know any examples but some of the things you mention that you need to be able to play at that level are innate things that not everyone has. not everyone has discipline, logical abilities, etc. its like saying everyone could play in the NBA if they were 7 feet tall but obviously not everyone is born like that. |
Pretty much this. Its good to aim high and all, but theres a difference between achievable and dreams |
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Loco   Canada. Oct 22 2010 21:01. Posts 21004 | | |
my advice is to not take advice from people who aren't capable of doing what they're talking about or who haven't achieved the results you want to achieve. find the people who did and see what they all had in common and have a pragmatic approach/devise strategies to do like they did, and persevere. and don't neglect your real life for a game, always seek balance even if it seems unattainable.
in my experience the best inspiration/motivation you can get (the most potent source), comes from being able to see where you were and where you are now and feel like you're on the right track with your life. in other words it comes from being in touch with your intuition. |
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thanks all
thanks loco, I hear ya. meh problem is I have only gone downward for the past 10-12 months and I don't have much to look to improvement wise.. I guess I will be working out now and that is one basic thing I will hopefully be able to look back on my progress with pride next year |
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nolan   Ireland. Oct 23 2010 04:10. Posts 6205 | | |
im on a 20k downswing bro my life sucks wtf you look up to me for |
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On September 08 2008 10:07 Baal wrote: my head is a gyroscope, your argument is invalid | |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Oct 23 2010 04:36. Posts 15163 | | |
| On October 22 2010 19:12 joLin wrote:
lol i dont personally know any examples but some of the things you mention that you need to be able to play at that level are innate things that not everyone has. not everyone has discipline, logical abilities, etc. its like saying everyone could play in the NBA if they were 7 feet tall but obviously not everyone is born like that. |
Anyone who fnished high school with math has the logical abilities... You dont exactly need to be a genius to be decent at poker.
And discipline? Thats completely learnable skill.
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joLin   United States. Oct 23 2010 05:50. Posts 3818 | | |
so anyone who graduated high school is capable of beating 3/6+
i will just agree to disagree here. |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Oct 23 2010 06:03. Posts 15163 | | |
| On October 23 2010 04:50 joLin wrote:
so anyone who graduated high school is capable of beating 3/6+
i will just agree to disagree here. |
Maybe there isn't high school as high school, but 100% my high school which was technical in nature, had like 1% females and technical subjects where you were forced to use logic be it maths, programming, physics, electric circuits or technical drawing.
Ok that sounds ridiculous when I read it back, I went to high school in post communist country in a technical school where you were forced to use logic constantly, the standard is much lower in the UK and US and you can specialise and ommit those logical technical subjects -,-.
Lets make it anyone in top 50% of population in terms of mental ability. |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Oct 23 2010 06:48. Posts 15163 | | |
Imagine someone within top 50% of mental ability would have to beat 3/6 at 1bb/100 within 3 years OR DIE. He would do everything possible to move up and every minute of his life would be driven entirely by poker from sleeping, eating, excercising relaxing or developing self to working on his game.
Do you seriously think there would be many who would die?
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joLin   United States. Oct 23 2010 07:46. Posts 3818 | | |
dunno, not too interested in talking about fantasy land scenarios.
was just addressing your initial point that everyone had the ability to play high stakes poker which youve since agreed is probably not true. |
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lebowski   Greece. Oct 23 2010 07:49. Posts 9205 | | |
| On October 23 2010 03:10 nolan wrote:
im on a 20k downswing bro my life sucks wtf you look up to me for |
modesty huh |
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new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... | |
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f u nolan no longer one of my poker idols i'm going to the dark side
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whamm!   Albania. Oct 23 2010 20:06. Posts 11625 | | |
i think all the hard work in the world will take me at beating 200nl marginally. 600nl eh, that would be ridiculous lols |
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Big_Rob_48   United States. Oct 23 2010 20:47. Posts 3432 | | |
top 50% of people can beat 600nl ? Ur view of what people are REALLY like is skewed as fk. Try top 5% |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Oct 23 2010 20:57. Posts 15163 | | |
| On October 23 2010 19:47 Big_Rob_48 wrote:
top 50% of people can beat 600nl ? Ur view of what people are REALLY like is skewed as fk. Try top 5% |
top5% of intelligence? R U Serious?
top50% have the capability to do so with years of hard work where they do everything to succeed, yeah. |
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joLin   United States. Oct 23 2010 21:58. Posts 3818 | | |
first you said everyone in the world could beat 600nl, then everyone who graduated high school, and now top 50% of intelligence. i dont even know how you pull these numbers out of your ass.
the truth is we'll never know how many ppl are capable of beating it under your fantasy beat 600nl or die scenario, but we do know thats not a realistic scenario and something like that is never going to happen. if someone cant beat it on their own motivation then i dont really care that theyd beat it if they were going to die and putting every waking hour into poker blah blah w/e. people get too caught up in potential (something you cant even judge objectively) and not reality. being able to get yourself motivated, in a good mindset, etc to play good poker is part of the job description and as far as im concerned if you cant do that then you lack the necessary skills to play poker. it doesnt matter that you think you have the mental capabilities or w/e, if youre not doing it then it doesnt matter.
lemon you come off really pretentious saying that things like discipline and motivation are easy things that everyone can do to beat high stakes poker. you havent done it yourself have you? if its so easy how come more people arent able to do it? youre marginalizing the work of the people who have worked hard and can beat those stakes. |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Oct 23 2010 22:27. Posts 8649 | | |
+1million to everything jolin said
i mean lemon how in the fuck can you just go and say "this is what a person needs to beat 3/6" without having even done it yourself, forget pretentious that's just retarded, i have somne similar arbitrary awesome guidlines to beat 25/50 1. sit 2.??? 3. profit fking bling blang blaow just that easy.
and what does "do everything to succeed" even mean, there's always something more you can do.
edit - drunk sorry if i sounded like an ass, gl night/everyone |
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maryn   Poland. Oct 24 2010 12:05. Posts 1208 | | |
| On October 23 2010 19:57 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 19:47 Big_Rob_48 wrote:
top 50% of people can beat 600nl ? Ur view of what people are REALLY like is skewed as fk. Try top 5% |
top5% of intelligence? R U Serious?
top50% have the capability to do so with years of hard work where they do everything to succeed, yeah.
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yea because intelligence is all what poker player needs to succed ....
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Oct 24 2010 13:59. Posts 8649 | | |
| On October 24 2010 11:05 maryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 19:57 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
| On October 23 2010 19:47 Big_Rob_48 wrote:
top 50% of people can beat 600nl ? Ur view of what people are REALLY like is skewed as fk. Try top 5% |
top5% of intelligence? R U Serious?
top50% have the capability to do so with years of hard work where they do everything to succeed, yeah.
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yea because intelligence is all what poker player needs to succed ....
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actually that's a moot point he never said all it takes is intelligence to succeed, just that x% of people meet the minimum intelligence requirements.
he's still wrong tho -.- |
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