NL400 overbet river 175bb deep.

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God I had an encounter with this guy before. Forgot Exactly what he did but ye seemed competent for a while the started being a total retard. I'm certain he's a loser.

lolol this hand is epic. you overbet the turn 2x and hes overbetting the riv 2x. quite funny.

dont know what to do on river tho.

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CALL CALL CALL
u never have a flush here right?
plus this guy is an idiot. don't be a pussy just call I bet he's gonna show up with stuff other than a flush a lot of the time

think about it. he just called a massive turn overbet. he's probably looking for any excuse to shove this river with any draw.

i mean shit. watch him flip over k9. we can't be putting him exclusively on the flush here.

I call

So he had the flush?

vs most villains I kindof like the turn overbet if you do have the FD, shouldnt get many calls... I think I fold on the river unless i get the feeling hes a little crazy, since his turn calling range is probably pair+draw hands, and not many people are balsy enough to make this bluff.

huh

turn put him on wtf

riv rofl call celebrate with many bottles of cristal paid for by call button

Interesting choice to overbet the turn for value though, you don't think he can get away from pair+draw obv. Really nice play imo.

I would be so pissed to overbet turn like that and that card on river lol.

awesome spot, he prob had a sick combo draw on the turn, but is still behind when he jams so wants to hit first. Def a fold i feel.

This dude plays pretty retarded and is definitely a loser at the game. Not really sure what to do here. Only thing that really makes sense for value is something like Tc9c/JcTc/QcJc.

One reason I have for a call here is that your turn OB makes it look like you have a vulnerable made hand such as PP or a bluff and he is trying to bluff you off it it. I think I call here because I don't think he ever puts you on a draw in this spot and his backing into a flush draw is pretty unlikely. There is a good chance he's just being retarded here.

I call and I'm happy about it.

It reminds me Durrr overbet bluff on river vs Sammy.
Maybe he had just seen it, and wanted to try it out. lol ?

I think he can put you a often on a big pocket/AK(+FD ie) So he could be
shoving it so fast (~=so happy about it) with worse hands than you hold, like sets, 2pairs.
Since you most likely has a big pocket or draw that missed (if u dont flopped nutz like here).

I call, despite we are almost 2bi deep. With 50% need to be better here I would still call.

On March 18 2010 16:12 handbanana21 wrote: awesome spot, he prob had a sick combo draw on the turn, but is still behind when he jams so wants to hit first. Def a fold i feel.

I agree...
Is this a bluff? very rarely,because of the way we played the hand
can he be valuebetting worse? not really given the board texture
so wp if you folded,even if you're on top of your range
edit-
I mean,if he puts you on a really strong hand is he really trying to put you off of it because Kc came on the river (repping a disguised draw that hit)?people don't do that often enough

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no

u made poast about it

u know ur fold sux juss admit it LOL

On March 18 2010 18:25 Try2BePerfect wrote: It reminds me Durrr overbet bluff on river vs Sammy. Maybe he had just seen it, and wanted to try it out. lol ?

rofl

On March 18 2010 08:54 sChOuA wrote: so you would call Maynard?

I'd jsut think he was bad enough to call turn with a fd and fold.

this is usually a fold unless villian is super spazzy / eratic

Since you mentioned he is a SNE I would fold here and not think too hard about it

https://www.pokertableratings.com/hand-history/stars/41269742620/5787852103
o well was curious if PTR showed that stuff

http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/lileor99

I don't fold.

what the fuck did he just check call the turn with?
he checked the turn with no intention of folding, even to a 1.7xpot bet
must atleast have the flush draw
maybe he has the other flush draw
i think hes atleast got the flush draw either of them with straight draw as well.
maybe he only shoves when he hits and just check folds when he doesnt?
a7cc,JTcc,QJcc,QTcc,A8cc,A9cc,a5cc
is he check raising, QTdd,QJdd,JTdd on flop?
i dont know feels like theres alot more value than bluff.

On March 21 2010 07:55 Twisted wrote: http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/lileor99 I don't fold.

I"m not sure if this makes me want to call any more. He's a proven loser, but a very slow loser, -1bb/100, which doesn't really indicate that hes super spazzy, eg the type to overbet bluff the river on a scarecard, but it might indicate that hes the type to chase draws without getting paid off enough when he hits.

I mean check calling the turn there just to push river when you hit just seems like a simple minded play that a marginal loser would make.

Edit: just noticed that most of his losses are from fixed limit. Still 34k hands 2/4 6max nl tho.

I think a player like this could also be valueshoving worse.

this guys a baller. i play a ton against him live. he isn't so good at poker though. this is such a ez snap against him since he has all the textbook fish moves in his book.

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Pretty ez fold imo... rarely see this as a bluff line

I think he has T7 O_o

wtf am i really the only one who thinks this is a snap call

I'm pretty sure I call here too...

a good time to get paid imo.

On March 21 2010 07:55 Twisted wrote: http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/lileor99 I don't fold.

so for all of 09...he was down like 100k....but SNE...does that mean overall hes up like 50-80k + two seats into tourneys?

I said call because I couldn't think of a possible hand he takes this line with, and I've went through one or two situations where some really weird and bad regs played a set like this. But I forgot about 87cc,97cc, and A7cc

3 combos is a lot more than zero, so I might have to change my mind and go to fold now...

ATcc, QTcc, JTcc, A7cc, Q7cc, J7cc, 97cc, 87cc, 74cc, A9cc, Q9cc, J9cc, T9cc, A8cc, Q8cc, J8cc, T8cc

Hes defending his BB, people like to close the action with suited cards, 100% of these hands also never fold the turn

On April 07 2010 18:45 TalentedTom wrote: ATcc, QTcc, JTcc, A7cc, Q7cc, J7cc, 97cc, 87cc, 74cc, A9cc, Q9cc, J9cc, T9cc, A8cc, Q8cc, J8cc, T8cc Hes defending his BB, people like to close the action with suited cards, 100% of these hands also never fold the turn

Good call, those all make sense too.