AK pf vs Nano

Submitted by : nolan

PokerStars Game #38186778738: Holdem No Limit ($3/$6 USD) - 2010/01/15 3:43:55 ET
Table Union 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: johnnykran ($726 in chips)
Seat 2: tollefishy ($641.85 in chips)
Seat 3: navmedtech ($443.15 in chips)
Seat 4: nanonoko ($611.10 in chips)
Seat 5: pmatt0 ($658.90 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($667.05 in chips)
navmedtech: posts small blind $3
nanonoko: posts big blind $6

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
pmatt0: raises $12 to $18
Hero: raises $48 to $66
johnnykran: folds
tollefishy: folds
navmedtech: folds
nanonoko: raises $72 to $138
pmatt0: folds
Hero:

does he ever 4bet bluff utg+1 3bettor ?

i'm guessing no, solely based on how many tables he plays. so it's really a range Q i guess.
i have, however, only seen nano 4b shove this spot in the past. i've seen him show K7dd once in doing so.

just wondering if anyone sees nano do this a lot.

do you 3bet AKs here all the time in that spot?

i think it mostly depends on your image here towards him.

I think this depends on how often you 3B in this spot. While he is playing many tables, your tendency to 3bet there is really quite easily figured out by looking at your stats for that spot. It really does not take long to click and get the HUD popup and see what your 3B percentage is for that position. If your range there is almost always for value, so is his. If you do this light often enough, this becomes an easy shove, given the money already in the pot. My basic point is--I don't think the number of tables he is playing is likely to stop him from 4betting you light in this spot because your 3betting tendency there is really easy to figure out if he has a decent sample on you.

I would shove if PFR was like CO or possibly MP but definitely not UTG. I highly doubt nano is ever doing this as move here

On January 15 2010 14:08 woodbrave1 wrote: i think it mostly depends on your image here towards him.

this + stacks are great to 4bet bluff in this spot tho

On January 15 2010 15:42 anarki wrote: Show nested quote + On January 15 2010 14:08 woodbrave1 wrote: i think it mostly depends on your image here towards him. this + stacks are great to 4bet bluff in this spot tho

what the hell are you talking about they are 100bb deep

its AKs... but its nanonoko, man he will prob snap you with 88 and flop a set or something

im not sure, being AK[S] i guess i just shove cuz only AA beat you,but damn can he really run so good to have AA there

vs any other guy i insta fold but every hand i've seen of nano hes done a lot of spewy and weird stuff..., then again i haven't played with him myself so

On January 15 2010 19:33 locoo wrote: its AKs... but its nanonoko, man he will prob snap you with 88 and flop a set or something im not sure, being AK[S] i guess i just shove cuz only AA beat you,but damn can he really run so good to have AA there vs any other guy i insta fold but every hand i've seen of nano hes done a lot of spewy and weird stuff..., then again i haven't played with him myself so

Yea he does randomly spazz out sometimes but he only really does this when there's some sort of aggro history going on. 90%+ of the time he's playing normally and this isn't a spot for him to be getting out of line

when he spazzes out he usually wins tho

On January 15 2010 22:23 Bullshit wrote: when he spazzes out he usually wins tho

lol this

why is ur 3bet ip so big?

Ive given up on winning vs nano without the absolute nuts, and even then I do a lot of praying.

it's AKs just play it like the nuts and be profitable with it

Should flat, get an A82 flop. Proceed to go all in and lose to A2.

does he really run that good?

On January 16 2010 11:08 dogmeat wrote: does he really run that good?

Beyond your imagination.



So my advice is to fold because no matter what he has, he will have the better hand by the river, i guarantee it.

giving alittle bit about your guys history would help alot. im assuming with how much you both play you probably have a fair bit.

lol ive seen a ton of random garbage type 510s type hands he goes allin pre and turns a flush vs aa lot

wat? how does history really matter in this spot. this is only for 100bb and nanonoko plays his hand more independently then basing off history. i think shove/fold is both very close since we don't know if nano gets outta line for 100bb. fyi ive seen nano 4bet AQs when slightly more then 130bb effective and bet/stackoff on 4bet flat 235o board

On January 17 2010 15:12 AndrewSong wrote: wat? how does history really matter in this spot. this is only for 100bb and nanonoko plays his hand more independently then basing off history. i think shove/fold is both very close since we don't know if nano gets outta line for 100bb. fyi ive seen nano 4bet AQs when slightly more then 130bb effective and bet/stackoff on 4bet flat 235o board

and he spiked a 4 on the river?

I would not fold, I would play it the best way possible to maximize value vs a poket pair? I think i would probably just flat call pre flop and play deceptively instead of just aggressively.

I also think the deeper you are the better it is to call.

I also agree that it is unnecessary to 3 bet so much

i would fold asap. the guy's a legend. lol