NL400 - sickest fold of my life

Submitted by : Smuft

***** Hand History for Game 1683685584 *****
$400.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, June 20, 01:14:23 ET 2009
Table Killer No DP 50 bb min Real Money
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Disorientation $463.20 USD
Seat 3: aks21 $402.00 USD
Seat 5: subpr1me $478.80 USD
Seat 6: gameover7 $1489.30 USD
Seat 8: Hero $394.00 USD
Seat 10: Finmacul $425.00 USD
aks21 posts small blind [$2.00 USD].
subpr1me posts big blind [$4.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
gameover7 raises [$12.00 USD]
Hero calls [$12.00 USD]
Finmacul folds
Disorientation calls [$12.00 USD]
aks21 calls [$10.00 USD]
subpr1me folds

Flop (Pot : $52.00)

   
aks21 checks
gameover7 checks
Hero bets [$36.00 USD]
Disorientation calls [$36.00 USD]
aks21 folds
gameover7 folds

Turn (Pot : $124.00)

   
Hero bets [$92.00 USD]
Disorientation calls [$92.00 USD]

River (Pot : $308.00)

   
Hero checks
Disorientation bets [$323.20 USD]
Hero folds
Disorientation wins $628.20 USD from main pot

lol

it looks like you forgot to shove the river

no worries, he shoved for you

your hand histories are really funny BTW, you do the most stupid shit w/ air, and then when you finally have a boat you make a thread

I'm sure if you had JTcc you would shove here, but gotta check fold the 44

On June 19 2009 20:43 TalentedTom wrote: I'm sure if you had JTcc you would shove here, but gotta check fold the 44

for sure !
Just to balance range with the good frequencies !!

Tom, thank you for your 3 responses. I appreciate them.

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This is obviously a non-standard play but I'm pretty convinced it was the right one. I would love to have someone convince me I played it wrong but so far the arguments have been pretty weak.

Let's keep a couple things in mind:

1. the flop action makes it really hard for him to have a speculative hand
2. this guy is a nit on all streets
3. TalentedTom has 11.5k posts on LP and still has nothing useful or funny to say

i have no business posting here. Yet.

On June 19 2009 21:30 Smuft wrote: 3. TalentedTom has 11.5k posts on LP and still has nothing useful or funny to say

What?

Read this

On June 19 2009 20:41 TalentedTom wrote: it looks like you forgot to shove the river no worries, he shoved for you

HOW IS THIS NOT HILARIOUS
Love you Tom

i thought tom answered your question about river play in this hand. I also found it comical so you are wrong on two points there bud

w/e

screw you noobs

Steven says:
u had 66 that hand eh?
Oddeye says:
bha... yes
Oddeye says:
nice read lol

soul read

TEXT IS FAKE

smuft sucks!!!

Dan - LAS VEGAS says:
talented tom is shit talking your fold
Dan - LAS VEGAS says:
i would never ever fold there in my fucking life
Dan - LAS VEGAS says:
but thats just me
Dan - LAS VEGAS says:
i kinda understand u tho
Steven says:
me too
Steven says:
thats why its the sickest fold of my love
Steven says:
life
Dan - LAS VEGAS says:
lol
Steven says:
talented tom is a retard
Steven says:
he posts in all my hands
Steven says:
in my list
Steven says:
like a stalker
Dan - LAS VEGAS says:
hes trying to be rekrul
Dan - LAS VEGAS says:
but he sucks at it
Dan - LAS VEGAS says:
he comes off as a biotch

i didn't write any of that either

j/k

guilty as charged

nice fold smuft even though it was a bad one is all that can be said here

u uppity forum whores still have yet to tell me what i beat

smuft is on the tillllllt!

Deactivate nit chip and call.

seems like a good logical fold that most people (inc. myself) would probably never be disciplined enough to make.

My fullhouse is a bluff catcher and I only see 1 hand in his range that he can turn into a bluff on the river - 57cc.

counterfeited 64dd turned into bluff?

After villain calls flop I think his range is sets, top pairs, 64, straight draws, a couple of under pairs and maybe some hands like A6 or A4 with a bd fd. This range is probably pretty generous as, I am not the PFR and there is 2 people to act behind him plus he's nitty.

After villain calls turn I think he has AJ, 66, 64, or 57 that picked up a flush draw.

Specifically 6 combos of AJ, 3 combos of 66, 1 combo of 64 and 1 combo of 57.

After river comes A

That's 9 hands that beat me and 2 hands that I beat.

With our effective stacks leaving us just under a pot sized bet left:

C/F >>>>>>> C/C > shove

Floated ak or aq?

On June 20 2009 01:13 GirlsRVicious wrote: Floated ak or aq?

He 3bets those pre and even if he didn't does he float when the PFR checks, another player bets and there is 2 people left to act behind?

No.

Legit question; what's the point of this thread?

you wouldnt understand edzwoo this hand is sick as fuck.

On June 20 2009 02:48 edzwoo wrote: Legit question; what's the point of this thread?

smuft feels the need to show his e-prowess through the use of a ridiculous fold. SO fucking ridiculous, that it shows his incredible poker abilities.

such a fucking incredible fold in fact, that he feels the need to lash out at people who say he should call. and that he feels the need to throw up some chat logs to show how fucking awesome the fold was (and thus, himself), and how semi-justifiable his fold was in this particular situation.

FUCK YA SMUFT, YOU'RE THE MAN. HIGH-FIVE

edit: that being said, sometimes this could possibly be a fold. very very very rarely however. in which case, with the right reads/stats on a known opponent, this shouldn't even be a thread.

which brings us back to edzwoo's original question

On June 20 2009 00:52 Smuft wrote: C/F >>>>>>> C/C > shove

wrong C/C is much worse than shoving

I would just apply zeebo theorem here .

I like cows

On June 19 2009 21:55 Smuft wrote: Oddeye says: nice read lol

fwiw whenever someone asks me if I had the nuts i always say exactly "yea nice read"

but oddeye is a resident here so he can say

And I thought my downswing posts were tilting...

On June 20 2009 02:58 Racist Dragon wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2009 02:48 edzwoo wrote: Legit question; what's the point of this thread? smuft feels the need to show his e-prowess through the use of a ridiculous fold. SO fucking ridiculous, that it shows his incredible poker abilities. such a fucking incredible fold in fact, that he feels the need to lash out at people who say he should call. and that he feels the need to throw up some chat logs to show how fucking awesome the fold was (and thus, himself), and how semi-justifiable his fold was in this particular situation. FUCK YA SMUFT, YOU'RE THE MAN. HIGH-FIVE edit: that being said, sometimes this could possibly be a fold. very very very rarely however. in which case, with the right reads/stats on a known opponent, this shouldn't even be a thread. which brings us back to edzwoo's original question

smuft doesn't give a fuck

lol

On June 21 2009 05:27 Rekrul wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2009 02:58 Racist Dragon wrote:   On June 20 2009 02:48 edzwoo wrote: Legit question; what's the point of this thread? smuft feels the need to show his e-prowess through the use of a ridiculous fold. SO fucking ridiculous, that it shows his incredible poker abilities. such a fucking incredible fold in fact, that he feels the need to lash out at people who say he should call. and that he feels the need to throw up some chat logs to show how fucking awesome the fold was (and thus, himself), and how semi-justifiable his fold was in this particular situation. FUCK YA SMUFT, YOU'RE THE MAN. HIGH-FIVE edit: that being said, sometimes this could possibly be a fold. very very very rarely however. in which case, with the right reads/stats on a known opponent, this shouldn't even be a thread. which brings us back to edzwoo's original question smuft doesn't give a fuck lol

you and your don't give a fuck club...talk a lot about not giving a fuck....one starts wondering why you give so much fuck...

this fold kinda suck, and it obviously doesn't make you a better player even if you were right in this spot

On June 21 2009 11:09 Fayth wrote: this fold kinda suck, and it obviously doesn't make you a better player even if you were right in this spot

lol u ve lost me there Fayth, u think he was correct by folding but yet he s not a better player for making that play ?

On June 19 2009 20:41 TalentedTom wrote: it looks like you forgot to shove the river no worries, he shoved for you

The check is much much worse than the fold imo.

Should've called ^^

On June 21 2009 10:24 phexac wrote: Show nested quote + On June 21 2009 05:27 Rekrul wrote:   On June 20 2009 02:58 Racist Dragon wrote:   On June 20 2009 02:48 edzwoo wrote: Legit question; what's the point of this thread? smuft feels the need to show his e-prowess through the use of a ridiculous fold. SO fucking ridiculous, that it shows his incredible poker abilities. such a fucking incredible fold in fact, that he feels the need to lash out at people who say he should call. and that he feels the need to throw up some chat logs to show how fucking awesome the fold was (and thus, himself), and how semi-justifiable his fold was in this particular situation. FUCK YA SMUFT, YOU'RE THE MAN. HIGH-FIVE edit: that being said, sometimes this could possibly be a fold. very very very rarely however. in which case, with the right reads/stats on a known opponent, this shouldn't even be a thread. which brings us back to edzwoo's original question smuft doesn't give a fuck lol you and your don't give a fuck club...talk a lot about not giving a fuck....one starts wondering why you give so much fuck...

LOL

20 million on my reading abilities

this is an interesting thread though

With our effective stacks leaving us just under a pot sized bet left:

C/F < C/C <<<<<<<<<< shove

On June 21 2009 19:33 JonnyCosMo wrote: With our effective stacks leaving us just under a pot sized bet left: C/F < C/C <<<<<<<<<< shove

rofl ownage

i cant believe u folded here....

it makes absolutely no sense.

On June 21 2009 23:32 Zalfor wrote: i cant believe u folded here.... it makes absolutely no sense.

well that settles things

i just looked at this hand again and i don't quite understand why people are saying folding is bad. im not saying it isn't, but it would be cool if someone would explain a little bit.

when villain calls flop bet in 4way pot i think it's safe to assume he's not fucking around floating with ace high or something. so i guess his range would be Jx/JJ/66/64s/75s...maybe it's possible he has 87h or 87s with gutshot+backdoor fd but it seems kind of optimistic to include that in his range.

as far as made hands calling the turn i assume he folds KJ and worse (which it's quite possible he would've folded on the flop anyway), but even if he gets to the river with something like KJ it doesn't make any sense for him to shove because he'll never expect you to fold better or call worse. so the only thing villain can have on river that he can beat is 75 bluffing a missed draw or 64 bluffing after it gets counterfeited, and there's only 1 possible combo of 64(dd) since villain isn't playing 64o.

dunno, what am i missing/

On June 20 2009 09:27 GirlsRVicious wrote: I like cows

+1

On June 22 2009 03:43 bigredhoss wrote: i just looked at this hand again and i don't quite understand why people are saying folding is bad. /

we have a fullhouse

On June 22 2009 03:43 bigredhoss wrote: i just looked at this hand again and i don't quite understand why people are saying folding is bad. im not saying it isn't, but it would be cool if someone would explain a little bit. when villain calls flop bet in 4way pot i think it's safe to assume he's not fucking around floating with ace high or something. so i guess his range would be Jx/JJ/66/64s/75s...maybe it's possible he has 87h or 87s with gutshot+backdoor fd but it seems kind of optimistic to include that in his range. as far as made hands calling the turn i assume he folds KJ and worse (which it's quite possible he would've folded on the flop anyway), but even if he gets to the river with something like KJ it doesn't make any sense for him to shove because he'll never expect you to fold better or call worse. so the only thing villain can have on river that he can beat is 75 bluffing a missed draw or 64 bluffing after it gets counterfeited, and there's only 1 possible combo of 64(dd) since villain isn't playing 64o. dunno, what am i missing/

Lets say you are vilain
What do you put hero on?

On June 22 2009 09:32 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: Show nested quote + On June 22 2009 03:43 bigredhoss wrote: i just looked at this hand again and i don't quite understand why people are saying folding is bad. im not saying it isn't, but it would be cool if someone would explain a little bit. when villain calls flop bet in 4way pot i think it's safe to assume he's not fucking around floating with ace high or something. so i guess his range would be Jx/JJ/66/64s/75s...maybe it's possible he has 87h or 87s with gutshot+backdoor fd but it seems kind of optimistic to include that in his range. as far as made hands calling the turn i assume he folds KJ and worse (which it's quite possible he would've folded on the flop anyway), but even if he gets to the river with something like KJ it doesn't make any sense for him to shove because he'll never expect you to fold better or call worse. so the only thing villain can have on river that he can beat is 75 bluffing a missed draw or 64 bluffing after it gets counterfeited, and there's only 1 possible combo of 64(dd) since villain isn't playing 64o. dunno, what am i missing/ Lets say you are vilain What do you put hero on?

i don't know, i guess Jx/64/75/maybe air if his image is goofy enough.

i will even say that from villains perspective, it looks like an ok spot to shove with 64 or 75 to fold out Jx. but still even if he's a thinking aggro villain who shoves these hands often in this spot, it's such a tiny range. i don't see what other bluffs he could have, and i don't think he can have something worse he's shoving for value given how the hand played out?

i guess what i'm saying is, even though villain probably doesn't put hero on something that can call a shove once he checks river, it seems like all his value range beats hero and there's a very small combination of bluffs he can have.

On June 22 2009 09:55 bigredhoss wrote: i guess what i'm saying is, even though villain probably doesn't put hero on something that can call a shove once he checks river, it seems like all his value range beats hero and there's a very small combination of bluffs he can have.

So why do you think hero shove 66 or AJ on river if you think vilain think hero cant call a shove once he check river?

Submitted by : YoMeR

Stage #1462699784: Holdem No Limit $0.50 - 2009-06-05 19:18:22 (ET)
Table: MINK AVE (Real Money) Seat #1 is the dealer
Seat 1 - CRAZYCHAS ($43 in chips)
Seat 2 - TILTFORLIFE ($98.10 in chips)
Seat 3 - JMAC3372 ($50.65 in chips)
Seat 4 - UR_GAY_FAG ($76.79 in chips)
Seat 5 - FLORIANGOLD ($108.91 in chips)
Seat 6 - OFFENSIVE 1 ($29.42 in chips)
Seat 7 - Hero ($94.30 in chips)
Seat 8 - BARTMCC ($48.68 in chips)
Seat 9 - FISH_TANK ($27.60 in chips)
TILTFORLIFE - Posts small blind $0.25
JMAC3372 - Posts big blind $0.50

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
UR_GAY_FAG - Folds
FLORIANGOLD - Raises $2 to $2
OFFENSIVE 1 - Folds
Hero - Calls $2
BARTMCC - Folds
FISH_TANK - Folds
CRAZYCHAS - Folds
TILTFORLIFE - Calls $1.75
JMAC3372 - Folds

Flop (Pot : $6.50)

   
TILTFORLIFE - Checks
FLORIANGOLD - Bets $5
Hero - Calls $5
TILTFORLIFE - Folds

Turn (Pot : $16.50)

   
FLORIANGOLD - Bets $9.50
Hero - Calls $9.50

River (Pot : $35.50)

   
FLORIANGOLD - Bets $42.50
Hero - Folds
FLORIANGOLD - returned ($42.50) : not called

Showdown
FLORIANGOLD - Does not show
FLORIANGOLD Collects $33.25 from main pot

Summary
Total Pot($35.50) | Rake ($1.75) | Jackpot Rake ($0.50)
Board
Seat 1: CRAZYCHAS (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: TILTFORLIFE (small blind) Folded on the FLOP
Seat 3: JMAC3372 (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: UR_GAY_FAG Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: FLORIANGOLD collected Total ($33.25) HI$33.25) [Does not show]
Seat 6: OFFENSIVE 1 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: Hero Folded on the RIVER
Seat 8: BARTMCC Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: FISH_TANK Folded on the POCKET CARDS

oh my god Yomer....

Testie's fold makes sense, your is just fucking awful

Testie....?

On June 22 2009 16:29 Twisted wrote: Testie....?

fails from baal continue

this thread makes me sad face theres too much anger and hatred and..

pretty sure op can easily expect the responses that showed, and e-brawl ensues. @_@

why cant weeeeeee be friends why cant weeeeeeeeee be friends

+ Show Spoiler +

just dont be a nit then u'll never have to fold

lol yomer wtf is that

On June 22 2009 17:23 Bullshit wrote: lol yomer wtf is that

On June 22 2009 17:23 Bullshit wrote: lol yomer wtf is that

On June 22 2009 17:23 Bullshit wrote: lol yomer wtf is that

On June 22 2009 17:23 Bullshit wrote: lol yomer wtf is that

On June 22 2009 16:29 Twisted wrote: Testie....?

oh sorry, wrong hacking douchebag... i meant Smuft

On June 22 2009 11:31 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: Show nested quote + On June 22 2009 09:55 bigredhoss wrote: i guess what i'm saying is, even though villain probably doesn't put hero on something that can call a shove once he checks river, it seems like all his value range beats hero and there's a very small combination of bluffs he can have. So why do you think hero shove 66 or AJ on river if you think vilain think hero cant call a shove once he check river?

+1

On June 22 2009 03:53 palak wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2009 09:27 GirlsRVicious wrote: I like cows +1

+ 2 :|

On June 22 2009 17:48 dogmeat wrote: Show nested quote + On June 22 2009 17:23 Bullshit wrote: lol yomer wtf is that   On June 22 2009 17:23 Bullshit wrote: lol yomer wtf is that   On June 22 2009 17:23 Bullshit wrote: lol yomer wtf is that   On June 22 2009 17:23 Bullshit wrote: lol yomer wtf is that

+83

On June 23 2009 00:51 iverson2k2k wrote: Show nested quote + On June 22 2009 03:53 palak wrote:   On June 20 2009 09:27 GirlsRVicious wrote: I like cows +1 + 2 :|

+3

LOLOLOLOL!

FOLDING BOATS IS THE NEW IN THING YOU RETARDS. DUH?!?

rofl sweet thread

On June 21 2009 10:24 phexac wrote: you and your don't give a fuck club...talk a lot about not giving a fuck....one starts wondering why you give so much fuck...

lmao

On June 22 2009 11:31 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: Show nested quote + On June 22 2009 09:55 bigredhoss wrote: i guess what i'm saying is, even though villain probably doesn't put hero on something that can call a shove once he checks river, it seems like all his value range beats hero and there's a very small combination of bluffs he can have. So why do you think hero shove 66 or AJ on river if you think vilain think hero cant call a shove once he check river?

i dont really understand the wording in your post tbh T_T

You think Vilain think Hero CANT CALL a shove on the river
So why do you think Hero Shove 66 / AJ on river?
Vilain think Hero dont call a shove?
Vilain want a call if he have 66/AJ
If Vilain think hero fold to a shove he wont shove?


wish its more clear
lol

STOP

being

NITS

and u'll never have to fold

and when you do

it'll be really really epic and probably bad

o

hmm

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fus...=vids.individual&videoid=56753478

VWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMP

On June 23 2009 12:31 FrinkX wrote: STOP being NITS and u'll never have to fold and when you do it'll be really really epic and probably bad

u also won't have to hear queen jokes for the rest of your life

On June 23 2009 16:11 CamilaPunt wrote: Show nested quote + On June 23 2009 12:31 FrinkX wrote: STOP being NITS and u'll never have to fold and when you do it'll be really really epic and probably bad u also won't have to hear queen jokes for the rest of your life

fuck beat me to it!

If I was villian im shoving QK for value

yomer wtf!!! haha

On June 23 2009 01:14 biabiaflexer wrote: Show nested quote + On June 23 2009 00:51 iverson2k2k wrote:   On June 22 2009 03:53 palak wrote:   On June 20 2009 09:27 GirlsRVicious wrote: I like cows +1 + 2 :| +3

= 6?

this thread is lolaments

On June 24 2009 16:07 TalentedTom wrote: If I was villian im shoving QK for value

stop the "im so loose" propaganda, you are not, you just look like rek doing that -_-

you're forgetting the other set of 4s. clearly a chop.

youre forgetting the other set of 4s. clearly a chop.

On June 26 2009 23:54 strydah wrote: youre forgetting the other set of 4s. clearly a chop.

[ ] funny
[x] stupid