NL400 - sickest fold of my life - Page 3

With our effective stacks leaving us just under a pot sized bet left:

C/F < C/C <<<<<<<<<< shove

On June 21 2009 19:33 JonnyCosMo wrote: With our effective stacks leaving us just under a pot sized bet left: C/F < C/C <<<<<<<<<< shove

rofl ownage

i cant believe u folded here....

it makes absolutely no sense.

On June 21 2009 23:32 Zalfor wrote: i cant believe u folded here.... it makes absolutely no sense.

well that settles things

i just looked at this hand again and i don't quite understand why people are saying folding is bad. im not saying it isn't, but it would be cool if someone would explain a little bit.

when villain calls flop bet in 4way pot i think it's safe to assume he's not fucking around floating with ace high or something. so i guess his range would be Jx/JJ/66/64s/75s...maybe it's possible he has 87h or 87s with gutshot+backdoor fd but it seems kind of optimistic to include that in his range.

as far as made hands calling the turn i assume he folds KJ and worse (which it's quite possible he would've folded on the flop anyway), but even if he gets to the river with something like KJ it doesn't make any sense for him to shove because he'll never expect you to fold better or call worse. so the only thing villain can have on river that he can beat is 75 bluffing a missed draw or 64 bluffing after it gets counterfeited, and there's only 1 possible combo of 64(dd) since villain isn't playing 64o.

dunno, what am i missing/

On June 20 2009 09:27 GirlsRVicious wrote: I like cows

+1

On June 22 2009 03:43 bigredhoss wrote: i just looked at this hand again and i don't quite understand why people are saying folding is bad. /

we have a fullhouse

On June 22 2009 03:43 bigredhoss wrote: i just looked at this hand again and i don't quite understand why people are saying folding is bad. im not saying it isn't, but it would be cool if someone would explain a little bit. when villain calls flop bet in 4way pot i think it's safe to assume he's not fucking around floating with ace high or something. so i guess his range would be Jx/JJ/66/64s/75s...maybe it's possible he has 87h or 87s with gutshot+backdoor fd but it seems kind of optimistic to include that in his range. as far as made hands calling the turn i assume he folds KJ and worse (which it's quite possible he would've folded on the flop anyway), but even if he gets to the river with something like KJ it doesn't make any sense for him to shove because he'll never expect you to fold better or call worse. so the only thing villain can have on river that he can beat is 75 bluffing a missed draw or 64 bluffing after it gets counterfeited, and there's only 1 possible combo of 64(dd) since villain isn't playing 64o. dunno, what am i missing/

Lets say you are vilain
What do you put hero on?

On June 22 2009 09:32 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: Show nested quote + On June 22 2009 03:43 bigredhoss wrote: i just looked at this hand again and i don't quite understand why people are saying folding is bad. im not saying it isn't, but it would be cool if someone would explain a little bit. when villain calls flop bet in 4way pot i think it's safe to assume he's not fucking around floating with ace high or something. so i guess his range would be Jx/JJ/66/64s/75s...maybe it's possible he has 87h or 87s with gutshot+backdoor fd but it seems kind of optimistic to include that in his range. as far as made hands calling the turn i assume he folds KJ and worse (which it's quite possible he would've folded on the flop anyway), but even if he gets to the river with something like KJ it doesn't make any sense for him to shove because he'll never expect you to fold better or call worse. so the only thing villain can have on river that he can beat is 75 bluffing a missed draw or 64 bluffing after it gets counterfeited, and there's only 1 possible combo of 64(dd) since villain isn't playing 64o. dunno, what am i missing/ Lets say you are vilain What do you put hero on?

i don't know, i guess Jx/64/75/maybe air if his image is goofy enough.

i will even say that from villains perspective, it looks like an ok spot to shove with 64 or 75 to fold out Jx. but still even if he's a thinking aggro villain who shoves these hands often in this spot, it's such a tiny range. i don't see what other bluffs he could have, and i don't think he can have something worse he's shoving for value given how the hand played out?

i guess what i'm saying is, even though villain probably doesn't put hero on something that can call a shove once he checks river, it seems like all his value range beats hero and there's a very small combination of bluffs he can have.

On June 22 2009 09:55 bigredhoss wrote: i guess what i'm saying is, even though villain probably doesn't put hero on something that can call a shove once he checks river, it seems like all his value range beats hero and there's a very small combination of bluffs he can have.

So why do you think hero shove 66 or AJ on river if you think vilain think hero cant call a shove once he check river?

Submitted by : YoMeR

Stage #1462699784: Holdem No Limit $0.50 - 2009-06-05 19:18:22 (ET)
Table: MINK AVE (Real Money) Seat #1 is the dealer
Seat 1 - CRAZYCHAS ($43 in chips)
Seat 2 - TILTFORLIFE ($98.10 in chips)
Seat 3 - JMAC3372 ($50.65 in chips)
Seat 4 - UR_GAY_FAG ($76.79 in chips)
Seat 5 - FLORIANGOLD ($108.91 in chips)
Seat 6 - OFFENSIVE 1 ($29.42 in chips)
Seat 7 - Hero ($94.30 in chips)
Seat 8 - BARTMCC ($48.68 in chips)
Seat 9 - FISH_TANK ($27.60 in chips)
TILTFORLIFE - Posts small blind $0.25
JMAC3372 - Posts big blind $0.50

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
UR_GAY_FAG - Folds
FLORIANGOLD - Raises $2 to $2
OFFENSIVE 1 - Folds
Hero - Calls $2
BARTMCC - Folds
FISH_TANK - Folds
CRAZYCHAS - Folds
TILTFORLIFE - Calls $1.75
JMAC3372 - Folds

Flop (Pot : $6.50)

   
TILTFORLIFE - Checks
FLORIANGOLD - Bets $5
Hero - Calls $5
TILTFORLIFE - Folds

Turn (Pot : $16.50)

   
FLORIANGOLD - Bets $9.50
Hero - Calls $9.50

River (Pot : $35.50)

   
FLORIANGOLD - Bets $42.50
Hero - Folds
FLORIANGOLD - returned ($42.50) : not called

Showdown
FLORIANGOLD - Does not show
FLORIANGOLD Collects $33.25 from main pot

Summary
Total Pot($35.50) | Rake ($1.75) | Jackpot Rake ($0.50)
Board
Seat 1: CRAZYCHAS (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: TILTFORLIFE (small blind) Folded on the FLOP
Seat 3: JMAC3372 (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: UR_GAY_FAG Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: FLORIANGOLD collected Total ($33.25) HI$33.25) [Does not show]
Seat 6: OFFENSIVE 1 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: Hero Folded on the RIVER
Seat 8: BARTMCC Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: FISH_TANK Folded on the POCKET CARDS

oh my god Yomer....

Testie's fold makes sense, your is just fucking awful

Testie....?

On June 22 2009 16:29 Twisted wrote: Testie....?

fails from baal continue

this thread makes me sad face theres too much anger and hatred and..

pretty sure op can easily expect the responses that showed, and e-brawl ensues. @_@

why cant weeeeeee be friends why cant weeeeeeeeee be friends

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just dont be a nit then u'll never have to fold

lol yomer wtf is that

On June 22 2009 17:23 Bullshit wrote: lol yomer wtf is that

On June 22 2009 17:23 Bullshit wrote: lol yomer wtf is that

On June 22 2009 17:23 Bullshit wrote: lol yomer wtf is that

On June 22 2009 17:23 Bullshit wrote: lol yomer wtf is that