100NL Monster draw vs monster shove

But it's a limped pot

Villain has been playing loose passive PF, maybe a fishy 80/10
Also he has made flop / turn huge overbet all-ins like this 4 or 5 times before (no showdown yet)

Submitted by : T8Suited

PokerStars Game #29399176568: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2009/06/15 14:41:14 ET
Table Kama II 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: sarge652 ($89.40 in chips)
Seat 2: PerkeoX ($101.60 in chips)
Seat 3: youngsizzir ($108.60 in chips)
Seat 4: BBQSquirrel ($100.20 in chips)
Seat 5: Alotofaction ($119.05 in chips)
Seat 6: deliore ($209.15 in chips)
Alotofaction: posts small blind $0.50
deliore: posts big blind $1
youngsizzir: posts small & big blinds $1.50

Holecards
Dealt to BBQSquirrel
sarge652: calls $1
PerkeoX: folds
youngsizzir: checks
BBQSquirrel: calls $1
Alotofaction: calls $0.50
deliore: checks

Flop (Pot : $4.00)

   
Alotofaction: checks
deliore: checks
sarge652: checks
youngsizzir: checks
BBQSquirrel: bets $5
Alotofaction: folds
deliore: folds
sarge652: raises $83.40 to $88.40 and is all-in

Villain loose passive PF, but have made this huge overbet move a fe times before (no showdowns yet); hero WTF?
1) fold
2) time call
3) call
4) snap call
?

so confused right now.

i think what's more interested is what is the hand that has you dominated the most. K8d seems to have you more dominated then JJ haha.

as I wrote in the HH too
vs a range of nut f draws, 2pairs sets and half the overpairs you have 47,7% equity if I did this right (someone correct me otherwise).
with the money invested you have to be good like 46% for the call to be slightly good
but have in mind that the range I gave him is really tight. You can never really be too wrong with calling here

make the call OBV, no brainer

curious as to results

--- Nuked ---

snappadooo

gamboooool

this is as break even as it gets. Really nothing much to think about. I think paying the rake hurts us the moast here If one of the other guys calls we can call aswell with a strong profit, otherwise it does not matter, what we do. By the way i would have raised pf. There is extra dead money in the pot with the poster, and QTs plays very well IP.

meh, according to your reads, it's probably ok to gamble here
should've iso'd preflop though

Villain has been playing loose passive PF, maybe a fishy 80/10 Also he has made flop / turn huge overbet all-ins like this 4 or 5 times before (no showdown yet)

Given this read I don't see how you can do anything but snap call - you're WAY ahead of his range.

If you're not iso'ing QTs, you're not iso'ing enough.

Calling is never a big mistake and you get to see 5 cards come out which is always fun.

wtf is alotofaction doing at NL100 lol
snapcall this pls

Board: Jd 9d 5c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.973% 47.97% 00.00% 14723 0.00 { QdTd }
Hand 1: 52.027% 52.03% 00.00% 15967 0.00 { AA, JJ, 99, 55, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d, J9s, J9o }

These kinds of retards shove all sorts of crap here, as long as he has top pairs in his range (he does) this is a snap.

lol snap

especially since you've seen him do this multiple times, your 1pair outs can easily be good too

On June 16 2009 13:54 Sicks Macks wrote: Board: Jd 9d 5c Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 47.973% 47.97% 00.00% 14723 0.00 { QdTd } Hand 1: 52.027% 52.03% 00.00% 15967 0.00 { AA, JJ, 99, 55, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d, J9s, J9o }

huh this range is ridic tight

On June 16 2009 15:02 collegesucks wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2009 13:54 Sicks Macks wrote: Board: Jd 9d 5c Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 47.973% 47.97% 00.00% 14723 0.00 { QdTd } Hand 1: 52.027% 52.03% 00.00% 15967 0.00 { AA, JJ, 99, 55, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d, J9s, J9o } huh this range is ridic tight

That's pretty much the point because even then you're pretty much flipping. How folding is ever possible is beyond me, especially given reads.

I don't even get how this is a thread. Obvious snapcall nit

GAMBOOOOOOOL

I've folded KK pre, but I don't think I've ever folded a combo draw.

i would get it in and i play FR

SssssnnnNnAaaaaapppppppppp........gggaaaammmmmbbbbooooollllllll

80/10


LOL

hes playing 80% of hands, I'd prob call with QJ here

your hand is prob close to a 60% favorate over his range of hands which prob include garbage like AJ, K9 etc..

Not to mention the small flushdraws that you rape.

i see straightflushdraw, i gambol.

and besides that your hand is a monster

How can you fold here man dont you wanna see turn and river? :O

On June 16 2009 15:45 edzwoo wrote: GAMBOOOOOOOL I've folded KK pre, but I don't think I've ever folded a combo draw.

I know of one person who did

he missed out on the bad beat jackpot at UB.

Everyone should of learned their lesson from his example!

On June 16 2009 15:45 edzwoo wrote: GAMBOOOOOOOL I've folded KK pre, but I don't think I've ever folded a combo draw.

this

On June 16 2009 15:02 collegesucks wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2009 13:54 Sicks Macks wrote: Board: Jd 9d 5c Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 47.973% 47.97% 00.00% 14723 0.00 { QdTd } Hand 1: 52.027% 52.03% 00.00% 15967 0.00 { AA, JJ, 99, 55, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d, J9s, J9o } huh this range is ridic tight

ldo, and you still have to call. That was the point.

Turn was blank but I rivered the straight flush w/ the 8d
Villain had Jh4h

On June 16 2009 21:57 T8Suited wrote: Turn was blank but I rivered the straight flush w/ the 8d Villain had Jh4h

So why is this a thread?

Don't u know that ur only supposed to make stupid threads when you lose??

I time-called, but it seems that everyone else thinks it's an easy call
So I guess I learned something
?

Snap call, though it is true that with this hand you would prefer shoving yourself over calling all-ins.

Definitely call here. You're ahead of so much of his range it's not even funny.

snaparoo

you've got to isolate pf

and seems like a really easy call given description of villain

i think you under estimate open ended straight flush draws or something??

On June 17 2009 20:15 TimDawg wrote: you've got to isolate pf and seems like a really easy call given description of villain

Snap call and expect to see KJ.

On June 16 2009 18:43 EvilSky wrote: How can you fold here man dont you wanna see turn and river? :O

made me snigger

if hes done it before a few times...snap call...

On June 23 2009 01:39 iverson2k2k wrote: if hes done it before a few times...snap call...

lol fail advice.



i raise him his life.