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nolan   Ireland. Aug 08 2008 07:17. Posts 6205
was playing in a 5/10/20 live game at foxwoods (well, ive been playing all week).

foxwoods dealers split tips so typically i'll wait until i'm done for the session and toke them whatever loose change i may have off an even stack, if you get what i'm saying. (if i have 8,125 to cash out, i'll tip 25 as i get up etc.)

last night it was pretty late, like 3am, and some tourist guy who kept buying in for 500 and busted a few times decides after i win a $120 pot in a blind vs blind situation to let me know in about the rudest tone possible that "You can tip the dealers once in a while." The exact statement was something like "Not to be offensive kid, but you know you can actually tip the dealer once in a while, right?"

What's odd to me about this situation is that there were some other regulars at the table who I'd played with before who follow the same tipping method I do. There were six or seven of us at the table, and three of us didn't tip per pot, so I was initially confused as to why this man seemed to target me on this particular point.

I responded with "Listen, you paddle your canoe, I'll paddle mine." to which he started epicly blowing up and telling me that dealers work for tips, he knows we don't tip in Canada (ROFL, how the fuck does he figure I'm Canadian? No idea) that I have no business being in this game if I'm not going to tip, yadda yadda etc. etc.

I'll leave the results out for now, just curious about what your play would be here?


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On September 08 2008 10:07 Baal wrote: my head is a gyroscope, your argument is invalid 

eightfourO   United States. Aug 08 2008 07:27. Posts 820

Pow, right in the kisser.

I am a god damn Rootin Tootin Shootin Cowboy!! 

eightfourO   United States. Aug 08 2008 07:27. Posts 820

=)

I am a god damn Rootin Tootin Shootin Cowboy!!Last edit: 08/08/2008 07:30

PoorUser    United States. Aug 08 2008 07:28. Posts 7472

tip him to shut up

Gambler Emeritus 

pinbaLL    Sweden. Aug 08 2008 07:31. Posts 7243

If I was sober Id explain in a nice way that its none of his business, but also say that I actually do tip, but after the session, and that several others do the same.

If drunk, I ask him to fuck off and die probably, I always get into arguments playing live poker drunk. Last time some donk slowrolled a fish, took like ten seconds to flip up his cards after seeing that he won, and I went off at him and made him leave five minutes after -.-v

 Last edit: 08/08/2008 07:40

kantoiki   Australia. Aug 08 2008 07:35. Posts 3818

Results? i wnna know lol

That said I'd probably just ignore him or tell him that I tip at the end of the session?

I know, not very exciting but meh

muckv - i have an iq of 180 and i want someone to teach me how to take a shit IN the toilet. 

Silver_nz   New Zealand. Aug 08 2008 07:37. Posts 5647


  On August 08 2008 06:27 eightfourO wrote:
Pow, right in the kisser (with my gun, not fist obv).

 Last edit: 08/08/2008 07:37

eightfourO   United States. Aug 08 2008 07:40. Posts 820

i want to play with you pinball, live. with tequila.

the last time i went to a casino, my buddy wanted to play blackjack so we went in there and he was playing, and he was sitting at an awkward angle so he couldn't see the minimum bet of $2. So he put down 1 dollar, and this lady looks over and goes "if your going to sit and play here, you might as well at least play for the minimum bet"...we both got pissed. I don't understand how how much he bets, even if it is a mistake, has anything to do with the cards she gets...

I am a god damn Rootin Tootin Shootin Cowboy!! 

Golden Ghost   Netherlands. Aug 08 2008 07:41. Posts 285

Laugh. Laugh hard.

But we at Liquidpoker don’t care about that. Our players are nutjobs, maniacs, psychics, and unstoppable beasts at the poker tables, crushing the highest limits around -[vital]Myth 

eightfourO   United States. Aug 08 2008 07:41. Posts 820


  On August 08 2008 06:37 Silver)Z( wrote:
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i thought that was understood??
jk

I am a god damn Rootin Tootin Shootin Cowboy!!Last edit: 08/08/2008 07:42

Shad   United Kingdom. Aug 08 2008 07:46. Posts 866

I would like to think that I would calmly try to explain to him that I tip at the end, but honestly he sounds like such a fucking retard that I would have a hard time doing so. I'd probably end up telling him to fo...

What happened then?

Naolan wrote: for $25 i will make a new account. Liquid`Meat: for $0,- i ban your account. 

MezmerizePLZ    United States. Aug 08 2008 07:51. Posts 2598

roffle @ you paddle your canoe i''ll paddle mine


ggplz   Sweden. Aug 08 2008 07:53. Posts 16784


  On August 08 2008 06:51 MezmerizePLZ wrote:
roffle @ you paddle your canoe i''ll paddle mine

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

pinbaLL    Sweden. Aug 08 2008 07:56. Posts 7243

Btw, anyone who calls Nolan "kid" deserves a kick in the nuts


Critterer   United Kingdom. Aug 08 2008 07:59. Posts 5337

like pinball my response wud vary vastly depending on how drunk i was at the time

if i was sober id explain to the guy i tip at the end and im not just being cheap.

if i was drunk id probably slurr something like "hey...u shut up, i do what the fuck i want mate" and then mumble something to the dealer about how me and him (the dealer) know the score and how that guy is prolly just drunk and doesnt understand

LudaHid: dam.ned dam.ned dam.ned. LudaHid: dam.ned northwooden as..hole 

SPEWTARD   Peru. Aug 08 2008 07:59. Posts 4307

i d take out the deagle

Rise and ShineLast edit: 08/08/2008 08:00

Twisted    Netherlands. Aug 08 2008 08:11. Posts 10422

What's with Americans calling people who are 23~25 of age 'kid'.

I swear I've only been called kid in Vegas at the poker table.


Raidern   Brasil. Aug 08 2008 08:19. Posts 4243

haha I think kid is more annoying than "son". BTW I'll just pretend I didn't listen to him and would do as usual by the end. Its not like he will even remember that in a week anyway. I'm sure there are some guys who don't even tip (or tip some shit) and if you always feel well tipping the way you do, then why bother with him?

im a regular at nl5 

DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Aug 08 2008 08:19. Posts 8623

If I was Nolan I'd tell him that he obv only was rude because I was black and that he should stop that cause it's not nice.


gawdawaful   Canada. Aug 08 2008 08:23. Posts 9012

its because Nolan is black, and all middle-aged white American men know that black people in America came from Canada

and I'm asian, I would've just said in the most accented English I can "no engalish"

Im only good at poker when I run good 

gawdawaful   Canada. Aug 08 2008 08:29. Posts 9012

"why don't you tip for me, you're paying for my car payments/mortgage/tuition anyways"

Im only good at poker when I run good 

Yugless    United States. Aug 08 2008 08:33. Posts 7174


  On August 08 2008 07:29 gawdawaful wrote:
"why don't you tip for me, you're paying for my car payments/mortgage/tuition anyways"


hahaha winner imo

Baal - look is talking hah.  

eightfourO   United States. Aug 08 2008 08:49. Posts 820


  On August 08 2008 07:11 Twisted wrote:
What's with Americans calling people who are 23~25 of age 'kid'.

I swear I've only been called kid in Vegas at the poker table.



whats with europeans talking??? everything they say is annoying thanks to gunther.

"teeny weeny string bakini"
"hot summer love"
"you touch me ta la la......my ding ding dong"

I am a god damn Rootin Tootin Shootin Cowboy!!Last edit: 08/08/2008 08:51

eightfourO   United States. Aug 08 2008 08:52. Posts 820

worst thing is, he's getting mad tang.

I am a god damn Rootin Tootin Shootin Cowboy!! 

Twisted    Netherlands. Aug 08 2008 08:53. Posts 10422


  On August 08 2008 07:49 eightfourO wrote:
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whats with europeans talking??? everything they say is annoying thanks to gunther.

"teeny weeny string bakini"
"hot summer love"
"you touch me ta la la......my ding ding dong"


I don't know if this is some kind of nationalistic post to quelch my 'insult' (?) or something but I didn't ever mean to insult 'American's' perse, just those middle-aged retards at the poker table.


Twisted    Netherlands. Aug 08 2008 08:53. Posts 10422

And who the hell is Gunther.


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Aug 08 2008 08:56. Posts 9634

i d tell him to go beat off and calm down
ooor

  i d take out the deagle


and then put out that Vinnie Jones speech from Snatch

 Last edit: 08/08/2008 08:59

sOah   United Kingdom. Aug 08 2008 09:31. Posts 4527


  On August 08 2008 07:29 gawdawaful wrote:
"why don't you tip for me, you're paying for my car payments/mortgage/tuition anyways"



this would be very dumb, unfunny and basically put you in the 'Cunt' chair as opposed to him

[a] "well here's a tip, why don't you seriously consider killing yourself?"

[b] ignore him completely

[c] educate anyone and everyone who will listen about how fundamentally flawed the tipping system wrt poker is (I cba to elaborate but it's very flawed and stupid)

[d] (this being the best choice imo) smile and say "oh, really?" or something along those lines, also the anything else he might say.

not all who wander are lost 

lebowski   Greece. Aug 08 2008 09:39. Posts 9205


  On August 08 2008 07:53 Twisted wrote:
And who the hell is Gunther.


blasphemy!!!!!!



it's really hilarious

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...Last edit: 08/08/2008 09:42

TripSearchin   United States. Aug 08 2008 09:46. Posts 1058

I think the actions of the other player is very rude. I do have a question though. I have not been to the Connecticut Indian Casinos in years but I go to AC fairly often. Are you sure poker deals pool tips at Foxwoods? In AC I know for a fact each dealer keeps what he is tipped but the dealers who work the floor all pool tips. Just wondering...

god damn Rabinowitz luck... 

handbanana21   United States. Aug 08 2008 09:57. Posts 3037

fuk him up!


AndrewSong    United States. Aug 08 2008 10:23. Posts 2355

my favorites are
"look bitch, i got 5 kids to feed"
or
"look ol'head. if losing couple bucks makes you mad, you should go play at the kiddie table over there" then throw chips at him and say "here, heres some tip so u can shut up while ur at it. I'm paying you with your own money anyway"


n0rthf4ce    United States. Aug 08 2008 10:23. Posts 8119

i probably laugh at him for 5 minutes straight...

www.cardrunners.com 

thewh00sel    United States. Aug 08 2008 10:26. Posts 2734

25 seems pretty short after a session. i usually just tip 1 per pot i win on the flop, 2 for turn, 5-15 for any double ups, etc.

A government is the most dangerous threat to man’s rights: it holds a legal monopoly on the use of physical force against legally disarmed victims. - Ayn Rand 

AndrewSong    United States. Aug 08 2008 10:52. Posts 2355


  On August 08 2008 09:26 thewh00sel wrote:
25 seems pretty short after a session. i usually just tip 1 per pot i win on the flop, 2 for turn, 5-15 for any double ups, etc.



what@! I'm guessing you don't play alot of live. How about you start counting how much money you tipped and take a look after 10sessions. dollar or two per pot is fine.

what many people don't know is that people in 1/2 game tip better then people at 10/20 game. its not cool if your not tipping. but its ok to tip small. besides, ur paying the rake anyway.


bane   United States. Aug 08 2008 10:54. Posts 2379

that was pretty rude of the guy...some people feel the need to always be "that guy" that says you should tip more in really any situation

but that was a really good saying hahaa


LostDevil   . Aug 08 2008 11:21. Posts 99

clap dat ni99a?

ship ship hooray 

Chillum   . Aug 08 2008 11:44. Posts 161


  On August 08 2008 08:46 TripSearchin wrote:
I think the actions of the other player is very rude. I do have a question though. I have not been to the Connecticut Indian Casinos in years but I go to AC fairly often. Are you sure poker deals pool tips at Foxwoods? In AC I know for a fact each dealer keeps what he is tipped but the dealers who work the floor all pool tips. Just wondering...



Yeah, they don't keep their own tips at foxwoods.


locoo   Peru. Aug 08 2008 11:54. Posts 4564

hm i play live for fun so I tip whenever i feel like, to get good cards next time, to get more drinks, to other players if I've won and they complain about bad beat, etc, etc

bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte 

locoo   Peru. Aug 08 2008 11:57. Posts 4564

but 25$ after a session is 100% fine imo, and you should just explain to the guy the situation calmly, especially since everyone else will agree with you, if u are drunk then just tip him to shut up as someone else said

bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte 

gawdawaful   Canada. Aug 08 2008 12:36. Posts 9012


  On August 08 2008 08:31 sOah wrote:
Show nested quote +



this would be very dumb, unfunny and basically put you in the 'Cunt' chair as opposed to him

[a] "well here's a tip, why don't you seriously consider killing yourself?"

[b] ignore him completely

[c] educate anyone and everyone who will listen about how fundamentally flawed the tipping system wrt poker is (I cba to elaborate but it's very flawed and stupid)

[d] (this being the best choice imo) smile and say "oh, really?" or something along those lines, also the anything else he might say.

thats pretty much the point in the first place, also I dont see how "well here's a tip, why don't you seriously consider killing yourself?" is much different
I do like something passive-aggressive in the ignore him mold though. I'd probably even talk to everyone else just make it obvious to him

Im only good at poker when I run good 

sOah   United Kingdom. Aug 08 2008 13:29. Posts 4527

well maybe it's a culture thing but "why don't you tip for me, you're paying for my car payments/mortgage/tuition anyways":

a] doesn't even make proper sense
b] sounds so A:od;GHASDGOHASDIGHASDG douchey that fuck I might puke
c] see [b] and re-read it a few times
d] "well here's a tip, why don't you seriously consider killing yourself?" makes sense etc. but ya is extreme, say it with a confident smile and American Psycho-esque manner and all is well

not all who wander are lost 

sOah   United Kingdom. Aug 08 2008 13:32. Posts 4527

fwiw, I just realised what could be the best way to own this faggot, thin-valuebet his ass off in a pot and then when he mucks get him to show; he has to oblige (in most casinos?) and show how owned he got

or something more similarly poker-orientated imo

not all who wander are lost 

YoMeR   United States. Aug 08 2008 13:37. Posts 12438

nolan you know what my approach would be....

eZ Life. 

gawdawaful   Canada. Aug 08 2008 13:40. Posts 9012

I thought its the aggressor that has to show? Like if you catch him bluffing with a hand he expects you to fold, he tries to muck but you just demand that he shows (and probably berate him for playing X and Y that way might be fun/tilt inducing too)

Im only good at poker when I run good 

Golden Ghost   Netherlands. Aug 08 2008 13:54. Posts 285

But we at Liquidpoker don’t care about that. Our players are nutjobs, maniacs, psychics, and unstoppable beasts at the poker tables, crushing the highest limits around -[vital]MythLast edit: 08/08/2008 13:55

sOah   United Kingdom. Aug 08 2008 14:51. Posts 4527


  On August 08 2008 12:40 gawdawaful wrote:
I thought its the aggressor that has to show? Like if you catch him bluffing with a hand he expects you to fold, he tries to muck but you just demand that he shows (and probably berate him for playing X and Y that way might be fun/tilt inducing too)



just like how we can see mucked cards online, we can see mucked cards live if we want to

not all who wander are lost 

DooMeR   United States. Aug 08 2008 15:09. Posts 8562

a good shanking is in order imo

I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance, by running away from the scene of an accident. 

whamm!   Albania. Sep 06 2008 22:55. Posts 11625

tell him you play FR online. he'll understand. lol


moneypoker   Poland. Sep 08 2008 03:49. Posts 693

doesnt tips kill your winrate live? it's like 2x the rake or something?

you win some, you lose some... 

 



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