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Patrocle   France. Apr 21 2009 07:02. Posts 623


  On April 21 2009 00:23 Fraser wrote:
i think its just cause he knows that nobody EVER 5 bet bluffs in howards world and that deep he wouldnt wanna stack off with less than KK.



Lederer knows you shouldn't stack preflop for 250bb w KK.
He only stack-off with AA, 100% sure.

An apple a day keeps the doctor away 

VanDerMeyde   Norway. Apr 21 2009 07:50. Posts 5127


  On April 21 2009 00:37 Baal wrote:
Jelle u give these idiots too much credit, Saki is right tho, these donks are not used to these stakes so their donkyness is increased.

And i think Lederer cannot beat 1knl on stars (they can easily beat 100nl since its full of random fish allt he time and playing ABC is enough).



Lederer owns Full Tilt Poker and probably doesnt care to evolve his game. Full Tilt Poker gives him more money than poker skill can ever gain for him so why bother : P

I dont think they are idiots i just think some of them come from a different time when games were different and they played a certain way too long time, and it worked so good back then but doesnt work vs aggressive internet pro's and its hard for them to change their game that drastically now.

:D 

CruiseR   Poland. Apr 21 2009 08:16. Posts 682


  On April 20 2009 20:41 tomson wrote:
Lederer is the wealthiest player at the table by far.



hard to imagine
that FTP gives him more than dozens of millions that patrik/durrrr earn
cuz i doubt hes actually making even 1% of this playing poker ;

 Last edit: 21/04/2009 08:17

Feiticeira   United Kingdom. Apr 21 2009 08:33. Posts 3047


  On April 21 2009 07:16 CruiseR wrote:
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hard to imagine
that FTP gives him more than dozens of millions that patrik/durrrr earn
cuz i doubt hes actually making even 1% of this playing poker ;


... are you an idiot?

He _OWNS FULL TILT POKER_

His wealth is obscene, PA and Dwan don't come close.

The weird thing is I think McCain will win this. Im 100% certain Obama wont be elected and you guys can mark my words - Sheitan 

Feiticeira   United Kingdom. Apr 21 2009 08:37. Posts 3047

seriously, other than Guy and Sam Simon I can't imagine anybody who has ever played on HSP is worth more than Howard

The weird thing is I think McCain will win this. Im 100% certain Obama wont be elected and you guys can mark my words - Sheitan 

CruiseR   Poland. Apr 21 2009 09:40. Posts 682


  On April 21 2009 07:33 Feiticeira wrote:
Show nested quote +



... are you an idiot?

He _OWNS FULL TILT POKER_

His wealth is obscene, PA and Dwan don't come close.




so its hard to imagine he's THAT afraid of put the 200k in w/ AK against a crazy dude like durrrr after alrdy investing like quarter of it and then flat a 5bet oop LOL
not to mention other his hands, where he's afraid to call one standard cbet w/ 88 on 234 iirc

 Last edit: 21/04/2009 09:41

CruiseR   Poland. Apr 21 2009 09:47. Posts 682

"Doubt howard is that rich.
U guys make it sound like he makes 100mill a month

Lots of expenses go into the site. Not like he has some PC in his basement running Full Tilt/

Lawyers
Ads
Servers
Software Guys
IT Guys
Customer Service (lol, jk)
Marketing Teams
Taxes (not sure about this)
Pro Salaries
Promotions/Affiliates (rake back and stuff)

After you deduct all this, then you give him a % of what he ownes. IDK what he owns of full tilt. 30% maybe? "


From 2+2



And we're talking about owner of ftp, now try to imagine earnings of PokerStars' owners O_O


_
edit: and i read that Ferguson's deal w/ ftp is 1,1m/month , sick

 Last edit: 21/04/2009 09:48

CruiseR   Poland. Apr 21 2009 09:51. Posts 682

btw: lil offtopic but

http://www.pokertexas.pl/poker-news/e...a-odwazny-glupi-czy-po-prostuzartowal
(scroll lil down and see that vid)


From Poker After Dark
Elezra "i've got 17 names on Full Tilt, seventeen"
and across the table Howard's face hahahaha it's priceless xD

 Last edit: 21/04/2009 09:52

HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Apr 21 2009 09:55. Posts 10896

lol@ Cruiser

''Lederer cant be that rich''
''i read ferguson get 1.1m a month''


CruiseR   Poland. Apr 21 2009 09:58. Posts 682


  On April 21 2009 08:55 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
lol@ Cruiser

''Lederer cant be that rich''
''i read ferguson get 1.1m a month''





i didn't say that, these are quotes from 2+2

and i don't see any "lederer cant be that rich" even there, maybe u are overrating, some guy said after the expenses his share of FT is like 30% ,


HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Apr 21 2009 10:20. Posts 10896


  On April 21 2009 08:58 CruiseR wrote:
Show nested quote +




i didn't say that, these are quotes from 2+2

and i don't see any "lederer cant be that rich" even there, maybe u are overrating, some guy said after the expenses his share of FT is like 30% ,

read your previous posts


Patrocle   France. Apr 21 2009 10:25. Posts 623

LoL at retards thinking Lederer isn't omg wealth.
BUT you can be rich and not be confident with your game at a specific stakes, just
because you are not used to gamble with mass amounts of money.
Also, they play 300bb poker.
I'm not sure any of the player here can imagine how to beat a 300bb game, considering
lost of the moves we make for 100bb are good in this framework but fairly inaccurate
for 300bb.

An apple a day keeps the doctor away 

eddieL87   Norway. Apr 21 2009 10:48. Posts 289

umm joe hachem is playing quite good?


TalentedTom    Canada. Apr 21 2009 12:02. Posts 20070

the more I watch him, the more I feel negraneau has no idea what hes doing

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

Jelle   Belgium. Apr 21 2009 13:53. Posts 3476

LOL 1.1m a month

GroT 

royalsu   Canada. Apr 21 2009 19:21. Posts 3233

LEAKED episode out on pokerbay


longple    Sweden. Apr 21 2009 19:26. Posts 4472

nice episode, laaks bluff against antonious was so random, he ch/ch/ch/c AA and goes crazy with air


DooMeR   United States. Apr 21 2009 20:04. Posts 8562


  On April 21 2009 11:02 TalentedTom wrote:
the more I watch him, the more I feel negraneau has no idea what hes doing

I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance, by running away from the scene of an accident. 

royalsu   Canada. Apr 21 2009 22:51. Posts 3233

hsp show sucks without durrr


Rolon   Netherlands. Apr 22 2009 15:45. Posts 229

man this show sucks without durrr

Chi Chi get the yeyo! 

 
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