I think Durrr, Antonious, Esfandiardi, Greenstein and maybe Laak is playing really good. The other weak tight legends made most of their money at times when nobody knew poker was even a skill game and got too lazy to evolve their game
On April 20 2009 12:57 Shad wrote:
Episode has been pulled from youtube, found this link in the Ep 9 thread on the thepokerbay for those who missed it: http://rapidshare.com/files/223629546/HSPS59.flv
Unfortunately whoever saved it downloaded the normal quality version rather than the HQ version.
Thanks, lovely. I had it loaded then clicked away and by the time I realized "oh shi' I wanted to watch ep9 too, it was loaded" it was gone
On April 20 2009 12:35 chipsOwner wrote:
this is NOT a donkament where you get away with such "lemme know where im at"
lol =(
and you can't make small bets in poker because then people will know ur weak and raise you with any 2 right? solid analysis if only lederer could read ur advice hed be rich
are you retarted or something? everytime he has a hand with value he basically potbets. watch those episodes again for crying out loud.
On April 20 2009 12:35 chipsOwner wrote:
this is NOT a donkament where you get away with such "lemme know where im at"
lol =(
and you can't make small bets in poker because then people will know ur weak and raise you with any 2 right? solid analysis if only lederer could read ur advice hed be rich
everytime he has a hand with value he basically potbets. watch those episodes again for crying out loud.
now ur talking u finally included the crucial piece of info that makes ur criticism viable
I definitely think Jelle has some valid points in this discussion, and so has the opposition. What alot of you 100nl grinders berating people on high stakes poker fail to realize is how diffrently these games play compared to 100bb poker for pennies online. Most players are playing way over their roll and most of them are way over 200bbs deep, causing some players to make suboptimal decisions because they are playing scared or trying to reduce variance.
Lets put you 100nl grinders on a table surrounded by cameras playing 10/20 and we will see how optimal you will play.
That being said, some of these plays we have seen in the seasons just cant be excused. I dont think Lederer has played one hand well so far.. That isnt all that strange as howard is an old school player from the days when you could nit it up and win alot of money playing very abc. I think he understands most mathematical concepts of poker pretty well but my guess is he isnt playing much at all these days(why the fuck would he, the guy owns full tilt poker ffs, he laughs at durrs pokerdb stats) and the AK hand against durr is such a perfect example of how much poker has evolved and how lost howard lederer is in this new enviroment.
On April 20 2009 12:57 Shad wrote:
Episode has been pulled from youtube, found this link in the Ep 9 thread on the thepokerbay for those who missed it: http://rapidshare.com/files/223629546/HSPS59.flv
Unfortunately whoever saved it downloaded the normal quality version rather than the HQ version.
On April 20 2009 12:57 Shad wrote:
Episode has been pulled from youtube, found this link in the Ep 9 thread on the thepokerbay for those who missed it: http://rapidshare.com/files/223629546/HSPS59.flv
Unfortunately whoever saved it downloaded the normal quality version rather than the HQ version.
Haha I liked it when Laak was pushing Patrik around a little for fun and he was still just sitting like a rock, just as the commentators said "wtf is he touching me for?!"
On April 20 2009 18:30 Balzamon wrote:
Haha I liked it when Laak was pushing Patrik around a little for fun and he was still just sitting like a rock, just as the commentators said "wtf is he touching me for?!"
I like how Patrik doesnt react at all
I am a NL25 player so take my advice/comments in that perspective
On April 20 2009 14:26 SakiSaki wrote:
That being said, some of these plays we have seen in the seasons just cant be excused. I dont think Lederer has played one hand well so far.. That isnt all that strange as howard is an old school player from the days when you could nit it up and win alot of money playing very abc.
I agree with all the variance-reduction part. Only Durrrr/Antonius and Ivey are in their comfort
zone playing those stakes, I guess.
But even if Howard does select hands as a nit - he plays 11/7, imo- I really think he plays
very strangely postflop, making a lot of mistakes, not ABC at all. The only ABC part, is the ability
to select the good cards preflop. But his turn play with TT was so horrible, I mean, if
he really wants to reduce variance, why not check/call turn and river ? Easy play, weak-tight, but still good imo. I really think he looks like all those super bad break-evenish nit-regs we can find
on NL400 fullring tables on FullTilt.
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