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SfydjkLm   Belarus. May 19 2009 01:23. Posts 3810 | | |
yea but whatcha gonna do. You can only call with that many selected hands, and shipping it over, how many people can do that kind of move? And im sure while playing those kind of players durr is well balanced in this spot. |
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blackjacki2   United States. May 19 2009 01:35. Posts 2582 | | |
I'd bet that Dwan knew exactly what Jabba had. The min bet looks like a real apparent value bet. Dwan probably just thought he could get him off it, so he fired 22,000 into a pot that he only had 3,000 in. If Dwan's line was anything but check check check he probably would have won the pot easily so I think he played it very poorly. |
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EvilSky   Czech Republic. May 19 2009 01:42. Posts 8918 | | |
Well I guess dwan didnt expect jabba to vbet k high there so he put him on a bluff and something that cant even bluffcatch, I think if he knew he had K high he wouldnt make this bluff as its pretty weird for an aggro player like him take such a trappy line, granted maybe he balances it well but somehow I doubt it.
also wow laak was cringing to watch this episode, i always thought he was a nit with some moves but that he was actually decent, now I just think he stinks. |
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Roman   United States. May 19 2009 01:45. Posts 590 | | |
| On May 19 2009 00:23 SfydjkLm wrote:
yea but whatcha gonna do. You can only call with that many selected hands, and shipping it over, how many people can do that kind of move? And im sure while playing those kind of players durr is well balanced in this spot. |
i think its a common falacy that just because someone is very good they are balanced in spots like this, I think durrrr checks flop and turn with an A or J 0% of the time, whats a balanced river c/r range look like? he obv just saw the dude bet 2k, knew he had K high and wanted to overbet the pot hoping hed fold, wrong dude to bluff there obv. |
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True   Finland. May 19 2009 01:56. Posts 843 | | |
| On May 18 2009 19:52 bane wrote:
i liked the episode and does anyone else notice the thing dario does with his mouth? its like a weird smile |
It's really strange-looking. Every time he bets/raises, he does this freaky smirk |
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player999   Brasil. May 19 2009 02:16. Posts 7978 | | |
| On May 18 2009 21:22 SfydjkLm wrote:
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On May 18 2009 17:06 Twisted wrote:
I think durrrr's raise there was really bad. Calling with king high is nice but it isn't extraordinary there. His raise was just as transparent as fuck. |
yes but how many hands can call him in this spot? Not that many, he just was unfortunate enough to run into a king.
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he makes big bluffs on the river every tv show hes in
this one failed -> bash on him |
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SfydjkLm   Belarus. May 19 2009 07:19. Posts 3810 | | |
| On May 19 2009 00:45 Roman wrote:
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On May 19 2009 00:23 SfydjkLm wrote:
yea but whatcha gonna do. You can only call with that many selected hands, and shipping it over, how many people can do that kind of move? And im sure while playing those kind of players durr is well balanced in this spot. |
i think its a common falacy that just because someone is very good they are balanced in spots like this, I think durrrr checks flop and turn with an A or J 0% of the time, whats a balanced river c/r range look like? he obv just saw the dude bet 2k, knew he had K high and wanted to overbet the pot hoping hed fold, wrong dude to bluff there obv.
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i feel like this is dangerously close to hypothetical pour-out onto the previous streets, but keeping it on the river, if it were u playing durr and he would c/r you like that , you would be shipping over his c/r with most of ur range? |
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Baalim   Mexico. May 19 2009 07:43. Posts 34305 | | |
| On May 19 2009 06:19 SfydjkLm wrote:
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On May 19 2009 00:45 Roman wrote:
| On May 19 2009 00:23 SfydjkLm wrote:
yea but whatcha gonna do. You can only call with that many selected hands, and shipping it over, how many people can do that kind of move? And im sure while playing those kind of players durr is well balanced in this spot. |
i think its a common falacy that just because someone is very good they are balanced in spots like this, I think durrrr checks flop and turn with an A or J 0% of the time, whats a balanced river c/r range look like? he obv just saw the dude bet 2k, knew he had K high and wanted to overbet the pot hoping hed fold, wrong dude to bluff there obv.
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i feel like this is dangerously close to hypothetical pour-out onto the previous streets, but keeping it on the river, if it were u playing durr and he would c/r you like that , you would be shipping over his c/r with most of ur range? |
most people would just avoid the spot overall, becauase you dont want to start playing that kind of games with Dwan |
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Roman   United States. May 19 2009 08:25. Posts 590 | | |
| On May 19 2009 06:19 SfydjkLm wrote:
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| On May 19 2009 00:23 SfydjkLm wrote:
yea but whatcha gonna do. You can only call with that many selected hands, and shipping it over, how many people can do that kind of move? And im sure while playing those kind of players durr is well balanced in this spot. |
i think its a common falacy that just because someone is very good they are balanced in spots like this, I think durrrr checks flop and turn with an A or J 0% of the time, whats a balanced river c/r range look like? he obv just saw the dude bet 2k, knew he had K high and wanted to overbet the pot hoping hed fold, wrong dude to bluff there obv.
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i feel like this is dangerously close to hypothetical pour-out onto the previous streets, but keeping it on the river, if it were u playing durr and he would c/r you like that , you would be shipping over his c/r with most of ur range? |
what is most my range there? haha he bet like 1/10th pot on the riv. |
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SfydjkLm   Belarus. May 19 2009 09:21. Posts 3810 | | |
| On May 19 2009 07:25 Roman wrote:
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On May 19 2009 06:19 SfydjkLm wrote:
| On May 19 2009 00:45 Roman wrote:
| On May 19 2009 00:23 SfydjkLm wrote:
yea but whatcha gonna do. You can only call with that many selected hands, and shipping it over, how many people can do that kind of move? And im sure while playing those kind of players durr is well balanced in this spot. |
i think its a common falacy that just because someone is very good they are balanced in spots like this, I think durrrr checks flop and turn with an A or J 0% of the time, whats a balanced river c/r range look like? he obv just saw the dude bet 2k, knew he had K high and wanted to overbet the pot hoping hed fold, wrong dude to bluff there obv.
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i feel like this is dangerously close to hypothetical pour-out onto the previous streets, but keeping it on the river, if it were u playing durr and he would c/r you like that , you would be shipping over his c/r with most of ur range? |
what is most my range there? haha he bet like 1/10th pot on the riv. |
i dont know, and situation is so highly hypothetical im sure it would never arise against a player who is actually capable of overshoving as a bluff. But im sure if it could durr would care to balance his range! Or make you htink he did |
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Baalim   Mexico. May 19 2009 09:32. Posts 34305 | | |
he doesnt care about range balance there wtf, especially not when he is playing against a clueless fish who wont probably play ever again |
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Fudyann   Netherlands. May 21 2009 14:06. Posts 704 | | |
I can explain Dario's smirk.
When I first played in a live game, a friend gave me the advice "just think about sex when you bet, then they won't know if you are bluffing or not."
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Sliggy   Australia. May 21 2009 15:29. Posts 742 | | |
hahaha. yeah he does it with every bet, it's bizarre. |
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hasuprotoss   United States. May 22 2009 11:39. Posts 57 | | |
| On May 21 2009 13:06 Fudyann wrote:
I can explain Dario's smirk.
When I first played in a live game, a friend gave me the advice "just think about sex when you bet, then they won't know if you are bluffing or not."
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I think I'm going to use this advice if I ever play live games... |
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bane   United States. May 22 2009 11:50. Posts 2379 | | |
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kaisr   Canada. May 25 2009 00:13. Posts 1058 | | |
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wow meltzer what a terrible call. only durrrr would get paid off there. i think dario played alright he just had bad timing / ran bad. oh well. |
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Baalim   Mexico. May 25 2009 01:59. Posts 34305 | | |
| On May 21 2009 13:06 Fudyann wrote:
I can explain Dario's smirk.
When I first played in a live game, a friend gave me the advice "just think about sex when you bet, then they won't know if you are bluffing or not."
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arent most of us thinking about sex all the time anyway? |
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PokerDoc88   Australia. May 25 2009 06:05. Posts 3527 | | |
| On May 18 2009 03:46 pinbaLL wrote:
who's the jabba the hut guy?? |
| On May 18 2009 06:40 PokerDoc88 wrote:
he's the resident fish |
| On May 18 2009 06:41 PokerDoc88 wrote:
i bet he busts next ep |
i win!!! |
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Baalim   Mexico. May 25 2009 06:11. Posts 34305 | | |
with his previous bluffs and stuff relatively working his way i was starting to wonder if he wasnt that bad, but after seeing his ridiculous A8o limp/call of that huge raise and later go into the sickest stationary mode ever its amazing this guy is such a massive (literally) donkey |
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