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ToT)MidiaN(    United Kingdom. Sep 20 2021 20:19. Posts 5070


  On September 19 2021 16:11 Oddeye wrote:
Heya midian, always good to see you, hope you are well. Snow is one of the toss that impressed me the most other than mini of course. I really wish flash was still there, either random or T. I don't think soulkey played like the #1 player but he his still really good.



Hey man. I'm not too bad thanks. I still come around this place once in a while.

SnOw has been very solid for a long time and pretty much always a top 3 Protoss for the last few years. He is currently #2 ranked Protoss and #4 player overall on Sponbbang. Earlier in the day his rating was high enough to place him #2 overall and #1 Protoss, just behind SoulKey. SnOw's biggest strength is undoubtedly his PvT, but I don't really give him a very high chance of winning this ASL as there are a lot of Zerg and Protoss players who hold solid winning records against SnOw this year online. SnOw actually has a positive winrate against every Terran in the world this year, with the hardest Terran opponent for him being Light where SnOw holds a 26W 22L record. However, against other players remaining in the tournament he is losing against Stork, Mini, Soma, Queen, SoulKey and hero. All in all SnOw probably needs some clutch builds or a lucky runout of opponents to get far. I would not be surprised at all if he did not make it out of RO16 Group C which is a stacked group.

Both FlaSh and Bisu were involved in a scandal which resulted in the backlash of a lot of fans and is ultimately why Bisu stopped playing, perhaps also FlaSh too. There's a big thread on tl.net about it here: https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/574711-flashs-crypto-scandal I haven't read it in detail myself or know the full conclusion, so I dunno if/when either FlaSh or Bisu will be returning to play again.

SoulKey has been a bit underrated for a while now, because other Zergs such as Queen and Larva have taken more of the limelight with their offline tournament wins. If you look at 2020 sponbbang games, SoulKey had the best ZvT in the world and 2nd best ZvP, just behind Queen. He has been super strong for a while, he's just not had as much fortune in tournaments or has been knocked out against other Zergs such as he was in ASL 10 where Larva beat him 3:1 in the knockout stages. SoulKey just really struggles in that matchup. That being said Queen is slumping a bit now, so it could be that SoulKey is just straight up the best ZvT AND ZvP player right now.

One day good. One day bad. And some days, even hope 

RiKD    United States. Sep 20 2021 21:33. Posts 8516

Is Larva drying the mouse because of sweat or to "warm" it up?


TornadoSteve   Thailand. Sep 21 2021 06:55. Posts 2

Thanks for those detailed stats, ToT)MidiaN(.
I always knew SoulKey was a world class TvsZer, but i gotta say
i am very surprised about his stats against protoss.
Especially against 2 of the best PvsZer of the moment, Mini (of course), and Stork (his pvsz has improved tremendously as of late).

Add to the fact that a broke man is ready to do anything for money (if you get the reference with his actual online ID ), i think youre right.

Definately in the RO8 for me.


spets1   Australia. Sep 22 2021 16:16. Posts 2179

Can you bet on games anywhere?

hola 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Sep 22 2021 16:43. Posts 9634


  On September 22 2021 15:16 spets1 wrote:
Can you bet on games anywhere?



https://www.pinnacle.com/en/esports-hub/starcraft-broodwar


Jelle   Belgium. Sep 29 2021 09:30. Posts 3476

what the fuck i randomly clicked a game and it was that leta vs action game that was insane

GroT 

ggplz   Sweden. Oct 03 2021 03:48. Posts 16784

Bros.. we have Ro16 now, first game Mini.. lets go!



if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

ggplz   Sweden. Oct 03 2021 04:17. Posts 16784

The games are good guys, shieet

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

Jelle   Belgium. Oct 04 2021 17:33. Posts 3476



This artosis rage remix is fire

GroT 

ToT)MidiaN(    United Kingdom. Oct 06 2021 17:09. Posts 5070

For anyone interested I created a spreadsheet compiling the win rates of each remaining player in RO8 against every other remaining player taken from sponbbang, filtered only for 2021 games, as well as a head to head tab for the remaining 4 matchups with their head to head stats. I also created a little probability table showing the chance player A wins the best of 5 given the odds of player A and player B winning a single game based on the sponbbang win rate.

ASL stats spreadsheet

Obviously don't click if you don't want the remaining 8 players spoiled.

One day good. One day bad. And some days, even hope 

ggplz   Sweden. Oct 06 2021 17:37. Posts 16784

Damn, thats cool Midian <3 you dude

I just came to share the new ASL eng upload... about to watch with some dinner and hyped

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

ToT)MidiaN(    United Kingdom. Oct 06 2021 20:21. Posts 5070

Hey David Group C did not disappoint! It was the group of death with good reason with 4 very solid players in it.

One day good. One day bad. And some days, even hope 

Baalim   Mexico. Oct 07 2021 07:14. Posts 34246

This season has been great so far

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

lostaccount   Canada. Oct 07 2021 17:22. Posts 5802

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ggplz   Sweden. Oct 09 2021 11:36. Posts 16784

Group C games were sick... D is out, I know you love the D! Let's go baby

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

lostaccount   Canada. Oct 09 2021 18:23. Posts 5802

yea i love da divine they are the best

my karma is done, now time to enjoy life, peace is the way karma is a way Jesus is a way 

lostaccount   Canada. Oct 10 2021 09:17. Posts 5802

Ro8 set anyone want to give me 6:1 on queen and or soulkey?

my karma is done, now time to enjoy life, peace is the way karma is a way Jesus is a way 

lostaccount   Canada. Oct 11 2021 04:28. Posts 5802

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ggplz   Sweden. Oct 13 2021 22:12. Posts 16784

Soulkey vs Queen... I'm rooting for Soulkey :D


Edit: Btw guys if you miss Larva like I do, he played a ZvT match vs Sharp from '19 apparently, but they are really good games, spoilering below if you want to enjoy other GGs too
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if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhANLast edit: 14/10/2021 21:45

ggplz   Sweden. Oct 15 2021 18:41. Posts 16784

Royal vs Mini

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

 
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