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ggplz   Sweden. Aug 16 2021 00:36. Posts 16773

New season has started up guys! Here are some wildcard matches. Apparently, Larva was not able to participate due to an injury... Sadge



https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/AfreecaTV_StarCraft_League_Remastered/12

Let's go! Hyped :D

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ggplz   Sweden. Sep 05 2021 13:05. Posts 16773



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lostaccount   Canada. Sep 08 2021 12:41. Posts 4941

Thanks I’ve been playing a lot of 3v3 bgh or hunters lately. I’m not too good 1v1 too much work.

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ggplz   Sweden. Sep 10 2021 16:36. Posts 16773

All good fun
Another out today

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Sep 10 2021 23:12. Posts 9634

Is flash still taking a break


ggplz   Sweden. Sep 14 2021 12:44. Posts 16773


  On September 10 2021 22:12 Spitfiree wrote:
Is flash still taking a break



Yep, would be awesome to see him come back. I think it's either military and/or injury related.

New one out

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ggplz   Sweden. Sep 17 2021 15:24. Posts 16773

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lostaccount   Canada. Sep 17 2021 16:45. Posts 4941

someone give me 5:1 queen is winning 50$

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lostaccount   Canada. Sep 17 2021 19:28. Posts 4941

8 zergs 8 protoss 8 terran balance 888 lucky money to all of us except bad people

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lostaccount   Canada. Sep 17 2021 19:32. Posts 4941


  On September 17 2021 15:45 lostaccount wrote:
someone give me 5:1 queen is winning 50$



wtf queen didnt qualify arg, nevermind hes already in the ro16


have a small bet with a buddy i get queen soulkey sharp n best
he has mini hero free rush

we didnt watch any episode yet so its fair game

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Oddeye   Canada. Sep 17 2021 20:45. Posts 5060

I'd have thought you had the better bet, Altho I'd put mini up there too. Kinna fucked up queen didn't qualify tho, but you can't discount those protoss either. Sharp looked really good.


TornadoSteve   Thailand. Sep 17 2021 21:20. Posts 2

Sharp is by far in the worst form of his career, how can you say this lol.

lostaccount looks like you got hustled big time
best is the biggest offline choker youll ever witness, Queen is looking kinda awful at the moment but yeah thats your only good pick. Soulkey is meh while your friend has rush (2nd best terran right now), mini (#1 in thr world atm, looks unstoppable), hero (whos got like 5 or 6 asl ro8 despite doing his military service during asl 6,7,8 and 9 i think). But yeah, free has no chance, there's that

Pray for ZerO (hes in the group of death (C) also.
Actually, just buy out.


lostaccount   Canada. Sep 17 2021 21:26. Posts 4941

I believe in Queen long live my queen

It’s not a lot of money, I ain’t folding lol

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lostaccount   Canada. Sep 17 2021 22:04. Posts 4941


  On September 17 2021 20:20 TornadoSteve wrote:
Sharp is by far in the worst form of his career, how can you say this lol.

lostaccount looks like you got hustled big time
best is the biggest offline choker youll ever witness, Queen is looking kinda awful at the moment but yeah thats your only good pick. Soulkey is meh while your friend has rush (2nd best terran right now), mini (#1 in thr world atm, looks unstoppable), hero (whos got like 5 or 6 asl ro8 despite doing his military service during asl 6,7,8 and 9 i think). But yeah, free has no chance, there's that

Pray for ZerO (hes in the group of death (C) also.
Actually, just buy out.



so are u saying sharp is not sharp, how can that be

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ggplz   Sweden. Sep 19 2021 05:34. Posts 16773

Kinda hyped for lights matches in this, just came out


Edit: did not disappoint

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ToT)MidiaN(    United Kingdom. Sep 19 2021 16:02. Posts 5068


  On September 17 2021 20:20 TornadoSteve wrote:
Sharp is by far in the worst form of his career, how can you say this lol.

lostaccount looks like you got hustled big time
best is the biggest offline choker youll ever witness, Queen is looking kinda awful at the moment but yeah thats your only good pick. Soulkey is meh while your friend has rush (2nd best terran right now), mini (#1 in thr world atm, looks unstoppable), hero (whos got like 5 or 6 asl ro8 despite doing his military service during asl 6,7,8 and 9 i think). But yeah, free has no chance, there's that

Pray for ZerO (hes in the group of death (C) also.
Actually, just buy out.



Largely agree, but SoulKey is the #1 ranked player on sponbbang right now. If you filter for games played in 2021 SoulKey has a winning record against every Terran except against FlaSh and Light, the latter of which he is 27W 28L against. He is also winning against every Protoss except for Bisu and Free, the latter he is 2W 2L against. FlaSh and Bisu aren't playing anymore so going by sponbbang winrates SoulKey should be considered one of the favourites. Naturally some people perform better or worse offline than they do online, but sponbbang stats are the best measure we have since games played in ASL are either many seasons old or laughable sample sizes. SoulKey's main issue is ZvZ where he's pretty much getting crushed by Larva and Queen and to a lesser extent Soma. He's also losing in small sample sizes against EffOrt (4W 5L) and Action (1W 2L).

Infact, let's be complete and look at his stats in 2021 against every other player remaining in ASL ro16:

Mini: 31W 18L (63.3%)
815: No games played
Soma: 12W 18L (40%)
JyJ: 15W 6L (71.4%)
hero: 20W 10L (66.7%)
nOOB: 1W 0L (100%)
free: 2W 2L (50%)
sOrry: 29W 14L (67.4%)
ZerO: 15W 27L (35.7%)
Stork: 20W 4L (83.3%)
Light: 27W 28L (49.1%)
Snow: 26W 22L (54.2%)
Rush: 44W 29L (60.3%)
BarrackS: 2W 0L (100%)
beast: No games played

Total: 244W 178L (57.8%)

If he can avoid Soma and Queen he's in good shape. On this evidence Light is a coinflip matchup, and I think he's a favourite against anyone else. SnOw looks the next toughest. Obviously sample size against some players is tiny or non-existent, but I'd expect SoulKey to be a solid favourite against 815, nOOB, free, BarrackS or beast in any case.

His group in ro16 looks pretty kind. He has Rush, who he has a 60.3% winrate against on sponbbang this year and 2 "lesser" players in BarrackS and beast. This should be a fairly comfortable path to the ro8 where in bo5 format the chances of him having a surprise defeat decline. I really think SoulKey has a good shot, plus we are in a bit of a Zerg meta atm.

SoulKey sponbbang link for 2021


As for Mini, although I have heard from my active friends that he is super strong right now, he does have a pretty miserable sponbbang record in 2021 against hero (45W 67L), Soulkey (18W 31L) and Light (23W 50L). Seems he's doing well enough against the other remaining players and seems especially strong in PvP where he is crushing SnOw (25W 12L) and Best (24W 10L), although is losing against Stork (8W 12L).

Mini sponbbang link for 2021

Best and Sharp are no longer even in the ASL so those can be kinda ignored for the sake of lostaccount's bet anyway xD

One day good. One day bad. And some days, even hopeLast edit: 19/09/2021 16:44

Oddeye   Canada. Sep 19 2021 17:11. Posts 5060

Heya midian, always good to see you, hope you are well. Snow is one of the toss that impressed me the most other than mini of course. I really wish flash was still there, either random or T. I don't think soulkey played like the #1 player but he his still really good.


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Sep 19 2021 17:52. Posts 9634

Kinda sad that Larva has to miss this season, with these maps it seems here are so many cheesy opportunities for zergs


ggplz   Sweden. Sep 19 2021 20:35. Posts 16773

Larva was literally blow drying his mouse between matches last season... a sign he needs to enjoy his prize money a bit

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhANLast edit: 19/09/2021 20:36

Oddeye   Canada. Sep 19 2021 22:08. Posts 5060

Ya that was hilarious as fuck lol


 
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