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On December 02 2017 12:32 VanDerMeyde wrote: Here you have truly unsustainable: According to a trend analysis conducted by leading sociologists, most Americans, rather than eating a series of meals with breaks in between, are now eating one continuous, uninterrupted meal throughout the day. https://www.theonion.com/report-major...cebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing The opposite of what I do... But I am the crazy one, lol!!!

Quoting for post edit lulz

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Edit: stop follow me around with stupid oneliners everywhere uiCk. Thanks

On December 02 2017 12:09 VanDerMeyde wrote: Show nested quote + On December 02 2017 00:29 RiKD wrote:   On December 01 2017 18:19 VanDerMeyde wrote: By the way Loco. My "temporarily weight loss" of 50 kg as you so called it. When will i gain it back ? The way I see it you are headed for trouble. You are on an unsustainable diet. So then what do you do? The weight loss is fantastic. You are in a really great position. Don't get cocky and blockheaded. You are going to gain some of it back over the next 20 years almost surely. There is probably a fair chance that you gain it all back and then some. Unsustainable ? Man, there are many 1000's of people that succeds on this "unsustainable diet". And I also do intermittent fasting... There is no reason I will regain anything, acctually I just slowly lose the little fat I had less on by body. But you and Loco seems to know that this one day will magically turn around :-) Dont hold your breath while waiting... Acctually I think its more cocky to tell someone who had a lot of success that their diet is bullshit, that the people they listen to are scammers and their weight loss is "temporarily". Its fucking rude man I would never tell that to anyone, even if I disagreed with the way they did it. The normal thing would be to just congratulate him...Which you did - thanks !, but not Loco

You are a lucky one if your cholesterol and triglycerides don't get to unhealthy levels on a paleo diet. That is typically the first marker. It was for me. So then what. I went on a vegan diet and didn't gain any weight and my cholesterol and triglycerides got back to normal but that diet wasn't sustainable for me either so I went back to a Western/Southern diet anything goes. I gained all the weight back and then some. I went back on a vegan diet and lost most of the weight and then I stopped and gained it all back and then some. To not gain any weight back you would have stay on your current paleo diet and intermittent fasting. Which means you will have to not care about your heart health or increased risk of cancers. A one year diet is a flash in the pan really. Like I said you did a great job but true heroes go vegan. After seeing the facts it is difficult to acknowledge that vegan is not the best way to eat. Any big bad ass dieter should eventually funnel to that way. At least whole food, plant based if we are going to be blind on the ethics of it all.

On December 02 2017 12:32 VanDerMeyde wrote: Here you have truly unsustainable: According to a trend analysis conducted by leading sociologists, most Americans, rather than eating a series of meals with breaks in between, are now eating one continuous, uninterrupted meal throughout the day. https://www.theonion.com/report-major...cebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing The opposite of what I do... But I am the crazy one, lol!!!

I would imagine you would like Ray Cronise. Check him out. I think he could be a guy to bridge you to the true way. Really interesting fasting guy. He was a NASA scientist that now spends all his time on diet/nutrition/weight loss. Got obsessed with cold therapies and weight loss which is another thing you might be interested in.

Kendra Sunderland does not have a very large, fruitful library on Pornhub. She is more about having a few stunners and likely saving the other good stuff for her website or other paid websites.

A really great orgasm is so great in that moment then it is like a bit of a fluttering maybe some mood change but like every other joy in this world it is so fleeting. Maybe we should cherish the moments. The butterfly saying hello, the sun saying goodbye. It's a matter of why don't I feel good? Make me feel good. Please make me feel good. We get caught in the gaps.

Back on the road again. Great... Off to a cozy meeting. I hope it makes me feel good. Drive back. Great... Read. Sleep. You ever have some nights that you just want to get a little wild? Have some raucous and rancor even if that is just in conversation? That is where I am at tonight. I am going to be disappointed and maybe resentful if that is what I am set on. Oh well, I have Tool for the ride up at least.

On December 02 2017 23:46 RiKD wrote: Show nested quote + On December 02 2017 12:09 VanDerMeyde wrote:   On December 02 2017 00:29 RiKD wrote:   On December 01 2017 18:19 VanDerMeyde wrote: By the way Loco. My "temporarily weight loss" of 50 kg as you so called it. When will i gain it back ? The way I see it you are headed for trouble. You are on an unsustainable diet. So then what do you do? The weight loss is fantastic. You are in a really great position. Don't get cocky and blockheaded. You are going to gain some of it back over the next 20 years almost surely. There is probably a fair chance that you gain it all back and then some. Unsustainable ? Man, there are many 1000's of people that succeds on this "unsustainable diet". And I also do intermittent fasting... There is no reason I will regain anything, acctually I just slowly lose the little fat I had less on by body. But you and Loco seems to know that this one day will magically turn around :-) Dont hold your breath while waiting... Acctually I think its more cocky to tell someone who had a lot of success that their diet is bullshit, that the people they listen to are scammers and their weight loss is "temporarily". Its fucking rude man I would never tell that to anyone, even if I disagreed with the way they did it. The normal thing would be to just congratulate him...Which you did - thanks !, but not Loco You are a lucky one if your cholesterol and triglycerides don't get to unhealthy levels on a paleo diet. That is typically the first marker. It was for me. So then what. I went on a vegan diet and didn't gain any weight and my cholesterol and triglycerides got back to normal but that diet wasn't sustainable for me either so I went back to a Western/Southern diet anything goes. I gained all the weight back and then some. I went back on a vegan diet and lost most of the weight and then I stopped and gained it all back and then some. To not gain any weight back you would have stay on your current paleo diet and intermittent fasting. Which means you will have to not care about your heart health or increased risk of cancers. A one year diet is a flash in the pan really. Like I said you did a great job but true heroes go vegan. After seeing the facts it is difficult to acknowledge that vegan is not the best way to eat. Any big bad ass dieter should eventually funnel to that way. At least whole food, plant based if we are going to be blind on the ethics of it all.

My good cholesterol is high and my bad cholesterol is low... Both values improved drastically since April I dont eat like what you would imagine I think.. I go in and out of ketosis. I dont mind vegan... i like vegan food, i have a few concerns about it but I would like to PM those to you I think.

On December 02 2017 23:49 RiKD wrote: Show nested quote + On December 02 2017 12:32 VanDerMeyde wrote: Here you have truly unsustainable: According to a trend analysis conducted by leading sociologists, most Americans, rather than eating a series of meals with breaks in between, are now eating one continuous, uninterrupted meal throughout the day. https://www.theonion.com/report-major...cebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing The opposite of what I do... But I am the crazy one, lol!!! I would imagine you would like Ray Cronise. Check him out. I think he could be a guy to bridge you to the true way. Really interesting fasting guy. He was a NASA scientist that now spends all his time on diet/nutrition/weight loss. Got obsessed with cold therapies and weight loss which is another thing you might be interested in.

Aight I will check him out, thanks. I never heard about cold therapy before

On December 03 2017 00:39 VanDerMeyde wrote: Show nested quote + On December 02 2017 23:46 RiKD wrote:   On December 02 2017 12:09 VanDerMeyde wrote:   On December 02 2017 00:29 RiKD wrote:   On December 01 2017 18:19 VanDerMeyde wrote: By the way Loco. My "temporarily weight loss" of 50 kg as you so called it. When will i gain it back ? The way I see it you are headed for trouble. You are on an unsustainable diet. So then what do you do? The weight loss is fantastic. You are in a really great position. Don't get cocky and blockheaded. You are going to gain some of it back over the next 20 years almost surely. There is probably a fair chance that you gain it all back and then some. Unsustainable ? Man, there are many 1000's of people that succeds on this "unsustainable diet". And I also do intermittent fasting... There is no reason I will regain anything, acctually I just slowly lose the little fat I had less on by body. But you and Loco seems to know that this one day will magically turn around :-) Dont hold your breath while waiting... Acctually I think its more cocky to tell someone who had a lot of success that their diet is bullshit, that the people they listen to are scammers and their weight loss is "temporarily". Its fucking rude man I would never tell that to anyone, even if I disagreed with the way they did it. The normal thing would be to just congratulate him...Which you did - thanks !, but not Loco You are a lucky one if your cholesterol and triglycerides don't get to unhealthy levels on a paleo diet. That is typically the first marker. It was for me. So then what. I went on a vegan diet and didn't gain any weight and my cholesterol and triglycerides got back to normal but that diet wasn't sustainable for me either so I went back to a Western/Southern diet anything goes. I gained all the weight back and then some. I went back on a vegan diet and lost most of the weight and then I stopped and gained it all back and then some. To not gain any weight back you would have stay on your current paleo diet and intermittent fasting. Which means you will have to not care about your heart health or increased risk of cancers. A one year diet is a flash in the pan really. Like I said you did a great job but true heroes go vegan. After seeing the facts it is difficult to acknowledge that vegan is not the best way to eat. Any big bad ass dieter should eventually funnel to that way. At least whole food, plant based if we are going to be blind on the ethics of it all. My good cholesterol is high and my bad cholesterol is low... Both values improved drastically since April I dont eat like what you would imagine I think.. I go in and out of ketosis. I dont mind vegan... i like vegan food, i have a few concerns about it but I would like to PM those to you I think.

One could eat vegan and paleo at the same time. The thing about vegan is you can eat a bit more of the carbohydrates and feel really good and maintain weight or lose weight pretty easily. It's not like we are eating a bunch of sugar. No one can convince me that I should not be eating sweet potatoes. You don't have to just go full vegan. You don't have to do anything in the grand scheme of things. I am starting to trend back into vegan. I ate oatmeal with a little maple syrup and a handful of almonds for breakfast, lunch was bad because I was at work and the only thing to eat was a little bit of chicken tenders and fries, and for dinner I had a vegetable pizza. That looks like a nightmare for a ketosis guy and it is but you don't have to go that way. You could start with say some eggs in the morning and the avocado and whatever you said you liked to eat, then maybe like 4 oz of chicken with some roasted broccoli, and for dinner have a blue zones soup. Then you can move to vegetarian. Then you can move to full vegan and see how it goes. You can always revert back to the paleo. I would be happy to answer any questions over PM.

On December 03 2017 00:40 VanDerMeyde wrote: Show nested quote + On December 02 2017 23:49 RiKD wrote:   On December 02 2017 12:32 VanDerMeyde wrote: Here you have truly unsustainable: According to a trend analysis conducted by leading sociologists, most Americans, rather than eating a series of meals with breaks in between, are now eating one continuous, uninterrupted meal throughout the day. https://www.theonion.com/report-major...cebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing The opposite of what I do... But I am the crazy one, lol!!! I would imagine you would like Ray Cronise. Check him out. I think he could be a guy to bridge you to the true way. Really interesting fasting guy. He was a NASA scientist that now spends all his time on diet/nutrition/weight loss. Got obsessed with cold therapies and weight loss which is another thing you might be interested in. Aight I will check him out, thanks. I never heard about cold therapy before

One of Ray's big things is that we are overfed and too warm. Winter never comes like it did for our ancestors. I've experimented with some of it. Like, leaving my windows open in the winter and using less covers, taking cold showers/contrast showers, swimming in cold water, the list is pretty long of things people do. Ray did a lot of work with that. There is stuff earlier in this thread. I know you don't like Loco but the video of him and Rhonda Patrick is really good. He was like 25 days into a fast and just completely normal. No problems. We don't have to eat. We schedule these lunches and dinners with people and overeat. We are fed for just about every waking hour and it's unnecessary. I could write more but I won't.

On December 02 2017 00:15 Spitfiree wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2017 14:48 Loco wrote: This sentence is nonsensical. If morality has any meaning whatsoever, it's not possible to be okay with doing something immoral. I disagree. In this case, it would take strong moral principles, which could easily relate to the top of Maslow's pyramid (self-fulfillment or whatever it was), while meat is more of a physiological need as I've been programmed to think that way - wouldn't be surprised if its passed genetically either. At this point, it would take too many efforts to accomplish close to nothing by throwing meat out of my nutrition thus I prefer to completely disregard it as an option. Obviously, this is all based on the fact that Maslow's pyramid is an axiom, which it isn't but proves to have been pretty accurate throughout time. A bit further on the matter: You'd need to make a large behavioral shift society on one of the deepest rooted necessity of our species, in order to make a change, which simply won't happen. I'd say pushing the antinatalism ideology is more likely than that. That being said, if large shifts in society should happen, we should probably first fix the issues of our species before thinking about saving the animals e.g. kid labor, discrimination of any sort, absolute poverty and etc.... I'd say the latter would come naturally after the former - pretty sure Stroggoz is hinting at that as well. In all honesty, vegans are still passively helping the misery of animals whether they like it or not, by supporting the maximized profits model in their societies, which is basically the model of almost all societies atm... Most of the added suffering on any level is because of that model, but then again so is most of the progress.

I don't understand the distinction between strong and weak moral principles. The number one definition for "principle" is "a fundamental truth or proposition that serves as the foundation for a system of belief or behavior or for a chain of reasoning." Once you've identified principles that improve your life and that of your community/others, you feel like you should strive to uphold them in every given situation. Thus, it's nonsensical to recognize a moral principle and say you're okay with violating it constantly. The reason you say you are okay with it, I think, is because you have not truly recognized the principle of not harming others for no good reason. Like most people, you almost exclusively think about what benefits you in any given situation, and you see no short term benefit of not exploiting animals.

The thing is that you are also wrong about that. You are wrong to think it wouldn't benefit you, it has great health benefits. You are just as wrong thinking that this is just some secondary matter. The way we exploit animals for food is the number one driving factor of climate change and environmental degradation, which impacts our species more than anything else. It's also a huge societal and economic issue, since it's the number one cause of self-brought chronic illness when combined with the overconsumption of processed foods.

"You'd need to make a large behavioral shift society on one of the deepest rooted necessity of our species, in order to make a change, which simply won't happen. I'd say pushing the antinatalism ideology is more likely than that. That "

Sorry, but there's so much wrong with these two sentences. This is an appeal to tradition and an appeal to futility. The fact that something is deeply rooted doesn't suggest that once you've recognized its immorality, you should dismiss the idea. You're saying the herd instinct drives your behavior entirely, and using that as justification for why it's futile to have moral principles in the first place. It's also not necessary at all, it's quite the contrary, animal foods are luxury foods, and our dependence on them has been nothing but damaging; if we keep doing it, we're screwed. Hence why we have people like Bill Gates investing fortunes in plant-based meats and lab-grown meats alternatives.

"while meat is more of a physiological need as I've been programmed to think that way"

This is a contradictory statement. Something that is culturally learned is by definition not a physiological need, but a mere habit. You're not a computer who has been programmed a certain way and is determined to repeat its programming forever.

P.S. Maslow's hierarchy of needs has been heavily criticized, I don't know why you're using it as some kind of justification, not that it has anything to do with your stance. I could just as easily use it for my own argument by saying that it is part of the last two levels for me (self-esteem and self-actualization), while it doesn't prevent anything on the below levels from being true. Though I'm aware that it's not everywhere in the world where you can easily do social dining with people as a vegan.

Vegans don't claim to live cruelty-free lifestyles, unless they are misinformed. They're trying to reduce the harm they cause, and the science is pretty clear that the two best ways to do that are by not having children and consuming a plant-based diet. I don't think it's fair to say they are passively supporting harm. No one chose the society they were born in, and many vegans are actively trying to push for a reform and sustainable living. It's also quite absurd to even consider these two things as equivalents, it's quite easy to choose bean burgers at the store instead of meat burgers. Not easy at all to reform society. You do what you can, and if a paradigm shift is on its way, you're on the forefront instead of waiting for society to tell you how to behave.

On December 02 2017 16:19 VanDerMeyde wrote: ?

You quoted the most famous news satire website as some kind of credible source of information to make a point. It just shows how gullible you are, hence why he quoted it, just in case you would want to remove it (since you often edit/remove stuff in your posts I guess). Little else needs to be said...

On December 03 2017 09:58 Loco wrote: Show nested quote + On December 02 2017 16:19 VanDerMeyde wrote: ? You quoted the most famous news satire website as some kind of credible source of information to make a point. It just shows how gullible you are, hence why he quoted it, just in case you would want to remove it (since you often edit/remove stuff in your posts I guess). Little else needs to be said...

I dont know about that source, it was posted on a huge norwegian facebook group about exercise/dieting, a general group. Anyway, you deny the point that americans eat too often ?

And you linked to some random blogger as "credible source of information to make a point" yourself LOL

Anyway, when will I regain my weight ? Im curious, you are such a great source of info... 2018 ? 2019 ? Im glad I disprove your bullshit every day i live <3 For this im gratefull

(Edited to trigger your feelings)

On December 03 2017 02:53 RiKD wrote: Show nested quote + On December 03 2017 00:40 VanDerMeyde wrote:   On December 02 2017 23:49 RiKD wrote:   On December 02 2017 12:32 VanDerMeyde wrote: Here you have truly unsustainable: According to a trend analysis conducted by leading sociologists, most Americans, rather than eating a series of meals with breaks in between, are now eating one continuous, uninterrupted meal throughout the day. https://www.theonion.com/report-major...cebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing The opposite of what I do... But I am the crazy one, lol!!! I would imagine you would like Ray Cronise. Check him out. I think he could be a guy to bridge you to the true way. Really interesting fasting guy. He was a NASA scientist that now spends all his time on diet/nutrition/weight loss. Got obsessed with cold therapies and weight loss which is another thing you might be interested in. Aight I will check him out, thanks. I never heard about cold therapy before One of Ray's big things is that we are overfed and too warm. Winter never comes like it did for our ancestors. I've experimented with some of it. Like, leaving my windows open in the winter and using less covers, taking cold showers/contrast showers, swimming in cold water, the list is pretty long of things people do. Ray did a lot of work with that. There is stuff earlier in this thread. I know you don't like Loco but the video of him and Rhonda Patrick is really good. He was like 25 days into a fast and just completely normal. No problems. We don't have to eat. We schedule these lunches and dinners with people and overeat. We are fed for just about every waking hour and it's unnecessary. I could write more but I won't.

Winter is no problem here thou :D Yeah I know about fasting... I fasted for 14 days while working, its np. I told you many times in the thread that I was fasting a lot, but you (or rather Loco) decided only to focus on the part where I cut out SOME of my carbs... And how horrible this must be ! I have watched videos on fasting from the best people on this subject before I did it. Fasting was my main weapon to win my bet

From: VanDerMeyde
Posts: 4733
Subject: Re: hi
Date: 12/3 14:15
HU ? I can come down to your stakes for it

HU challenge LOL

On December 03 2017 13:10 VanDerMeyde wrote: Show nested quote + On December 03 2017 02:53 RiKD wrote:   On December 03 2017 00:40 VanDerMeyde wrote:   On December 02 2017 23:49 RiKD wrote:   On December 02 2017 12:32 VanDerMeyde wrote: Here you have truly unsustainable: According to a trend analysis conducted by leading sociologists, most Americans, rather than eating a series of meals with breaks in between, are now eating one continuous, uninterrupted meal throughout the day. https://www.theonion.com/report-major...cebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing The opposite of what I do... But I am the crazy one, lol!!! I would imagine you would like Ray Cronise. Check him out. I think he could be a guy to bridge you to the true way. Really interesting fasting guy. He was a NASA scientist that now spends all his time on diet/nutrition/weight loss. Got obsessed with cold therapies and weight loss which is another thing you might be interested in. Aight I will check him out, thanks. I never heard about cold therapy before One of Ray's big things is that we are overfed and too warm. Winter never comes like it did for our ancestors. I've experimented with some of it. Like, leaving my windows open in the winter and using less covers, taking cold showers/contrast showers, swimming in cold water, the list is pretty long of things people do. Ray did a lot of work with that. There is stuff earlier in this thread. I know you don't like Loco but the video of him and Rhonda Patrick is really good. He was like 25 days into a fast and just completely normal. No problems. We don't have to eat. We schedule these lunches and dinners with people and overeat. We are fed for just about every waking hour and it's unnecessary. I could write more but I won't. Winter is no problem here thou :D Yeah I know about fasting... I fasted for 14 days while working, its np. I told you many times in the thread that I was fasting a lot, but you (or rather Loco) decided only to focus on the part where I cut out SOME of my carbs... And how horrible this must be ! I have watched videos on fasting from the best people on this subject before I did it. Fasting was my main weapon to win my bet

Winter is a problem though because we eat more and then sit in our warm houses. We add extra covers that are unneeded. In winter the food should be scarce and the cold stress should be immense. If Ray had his way we would all be huddled in caves fasting producing brown fat from the cold stress. The fat on our bodies would melt away just in time to get active and start eating fresh produce in the spring and summer. In winter we are either bundled up or have the heat on and overfeeding starting with Thanksgiving. I knew you were fasting. That's why we are trying to get you onto Ray Cronise because we think it could get you to the next level or at least give you valuable knowledge. From there it can branch out into Dr. Joel Fuhrman, Rich Roll... those are the only 2 I can think of at the moment but those can branch out into others. Don't just camp yourself in the echo chamber of paleo. Branch out a little bit and see if you can get closer to the "truth." What resonates? Re-evaluate. I am always better off when I do this. Find people with good motives. I was drawn into Jordan B Peterson from some interviews and some of his lectures but as time went on I still value some of those psychology lectures but he is far from any sort of messiah. Far too traditional and perhaps simply just pandering to his own echo chamber for big patreon money.

The coolest thing is that you have lost the weight. You can lose more weight if you want. You can probably get more active and feel good if you want. You can focus on longevity if you want. Get to where you want to be and buy a really nice tailored suit or get to a good maintain place and do the same. I am telling you it is difficult to maintain really great shape forever especially as we age. It is only natural. It is difficult for me to maintain fighting weight in jiu jitsu if I am not competing in jiu jitsu. If you want to live to 100 and be healthy a calorie restricted vegan diet is the best way.

RiKD

Why do you think these experts know more about it than Jason Fung and the guys i linked to

By the way, they made the exact same point as you about winter... Not saying Ray Chronise is not good, but he didnt add any knowledge about fasting that I have not heard before...

what echochambers ? Not sure what I do is even called "paleo". I never read any paleo book or heard any of these guys even use the word paleo before...

On December 03 2017 15:18 uiCk wrote: From: VanDerMeyde Posts: 4733 Subject: Re: hi Date: 12/3 14:15 HU ? I can come down to your stakes for it HU challenge LOL

What a shocker you had no balls to accept it..

Thats all you are to me you know, some potential fish that could donate some $$$ to me at the tables. Much like drunk live fish here that talks crap :D

(btw will not respond to u anymore or read your posts, u are just a retarded forum troll not worthy of my time)

On December 03 2017 16:44 VanDerMeyde wrote: RiKD Why do you think these experts know more about it than Jason Fung and the guys i linked to By the way, they made the exact same point as you about winter... Not saying Ray Chronise is not good, but he didnt add any knowledge about fasting that I have not heard before... what echochambers ? Not sure what I do is even called "paleo". I never read any paleo book or heard any of these guys even use the word paleo before...

Whatever. Do what you are going to do.

When I was doing paleo which is ketosis and fasting and all of that everyone was saying the same things. Well at least the sect I was in. You can see it early in the Truth Discussion Thread from me. There is an echo chamber in vegan and plant based circles too the difference is it is supported by good science.

We are in agreement on the intermittent fasting. No one is saying that is bad but no one can convince me that eating a lot of sweet potatoes is bad. It was the cornerstone of the Okinawan diet who outside of plant-based 7th Day Adventists are historically one of the healthiest and have the most quality longevity of any area in the world. You never hear about low carb people living to a quality 100 years.

On December 03 2017 19:35 RiKD wrote: Show nested quote + On December 03 2017 16:44 VanDerMeyde wrote: RiKD Why do you think these experts know more about it than Jason Fung and the guys i linked to By the way, they made the exact same point as you about winter... Not saying Ray Chronise is not good, but he didnt add any knowledge about fasting that I have not heard before... what echochambers ? Not sure what I do is even called "paleo". I never read any paleo book or heard any of these guys even use the word paleo before... Whatever. Do what you are going to do. When I was doing paleo which is ketosis and fasting and all of that everyone was saying the same things. Well at least the sect I was in. You can see it early in the Truth Discussion Thread from me. There is an echo chamber in vegan and plant based circles too the difference is it is supported by good science. We are in agreement on the intermittent fasting. No one is saying that is bad but no one can convince me that eating a lot of sweet potatoes is bad. It was the cornerstone of the Okinawan diet who outside of plant-based 7th Day Adventists are historically one of the healthiest and have the most quality longevity of any area in the world. You never hear about low carb people living to a quality 100 years.

My honest experience with it: Paleo works great for weight loss and in a normal job. But for me it doesnt work well with poker. So I eat a more "smart carb" based diet. And sweet potatoes are fucking awesome. I fucking love sweet potatoes dude. Baked in oven for 1 hour + some garlic butter is my favourite. And I play great poker with them.

I think they showed that fasting and intermittent fasting could potentially increase life span (they showed it in animals, dunno about humans). My guys say its good to go in and out of ketosis. If you stay in ketosis all your life its not good (and it would not imitate out ancestors eighter, a lot of paleo guys get this wrong). But beeing a "sugar burner" all your life is probably not good eighter. To get into ketosis you have to fast or eat very low carb... So even when eating smart carbs I get into these circles a lot and they seem to work good/great.

Maybe we dont disagree as much as you think. A lot of the misunderstanding is comming from canadians in the thread talking / assuming im only eating egg/bacon. I noticed a lot of people go berserk if u even say the word "low carb".