On July 04 2017 17:37 northsails wrote:
Agree that Reem should be bigger favorite over Werdum. Sure you never know with him as he is always prone to e fluke defeat, but I think he is going to dominate Werdum here.
For sure, I cant think of a fighter who has lost more fights he was supposed to win
On July 04 2017 17:37 northsails wrote:
Agree that Reem should be bigger favorite over Werdum. Sure you never know with him as he is always prone to e fluke defeat, but I think he is going to dominate Werdum here.
For sure, I cant think of a fighter who has lost more fights he was supposed to win
theres value on werdum then?
No, theres value in Overeem, the reason he loses fights he should win is the only reason he isnt like -400 here
The last dude that beat werdum in a clumsy awkward fight was Ubereem. Werdum was half the fighter he is now, sans goofy face werdum shows up he'll destroy Discount Reem ez. This new Reem trying to be like Mayweather dancin around just waiting to get hit by the slightest touch of the gloves to any part of his head goes down asap vs almost every dude in HW. I bet the house and my mother on Werdum
Psychologically Reem is no way chasing a belt in the UFC and is finishing his fat contract which im sure this guy will go move to bellatard, the biggest mistake Dana made taking in this horsemeat lover. Im sure he'll enjoy fighting Francis Nganou
On July 04 2017 17:37 northsails wrote:
Agree that Reem should be bigger favorite over Werdum. Sure you never know with him as he is always prone to e fluke defeat, but I think he is going to dominate Werdum here.
For sure, I cant think of a fighter who has lost more fights he was supposed to win
theres value on werdum then?
No, theres value in Overeem, the reason he loses fights he should win is the only reason he isnt like -400 here
Reem will be cashing checks as long as he got fans left, I just think Dana is overpaying him because of it. His only real claim to fame is beating brock pre usada who turned out to be a roided wwe guy who cant stand getting hit. HW without Sea Level Cain and Prime JDS is dead
On July 06 2017 06:59 whamm! wrote:
The last dude that beat werdum in a clumsy awkward fight was Ubereem. Werdum was half the fighter he is now, sans goofy face werdum shows up he'll destroy Discount Reem ez. This new Reem trying to be like Mayweather dancin around just waiting to get hit by the slightest touch of the gloves to any part of his head goes down asap vs almost every dude in HW. I bet the house and my mother on Werdum
Psychologically Reem is no way chasing a belt in the UFC and is finishing his fat contract which im sure this guy will go move to bellatard, the biggest mistake Dana made taking in this horsemeat lover. Im sure he'll enjoy fighting Francis Nganou
The "discount Reem" you mention beat Mir, Struve, Nelson, JDS, Arlovski and Hunt and also nearly KO's the champ
Baal I'm sure you've known by now that in MMA a fighter is judged by his last 3 or less fights. MMA's margin of error and wear on it's fighters is so demanding that you can't judge a fighter's chances by his whole body of work. It's a momentum driven sport if anything, and whatever the fighter has on his plate at any given time is the best indicator how he performs or what version of himself shows up. Reem post USADA is even a mere shell of Pride Reem, his younger self, and that's not saying much either.
Werdum's only mistake is relying too much on his striking and trying too many new shit e.g. flying kick , he should not abandon his elite BJJ skills and learn to put it all together with his newfound striking ability. Ubereem had a tough time in their striking match in the first fight and he had only started striking more in his fights with his striking coach, what more now with post USADA reem and werdum with longer time doing striking training
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 08 2017 08:18. Posts 13030
Amanda Nunes (135) vs. Valentina Shevchenko (134.5)
Yoel Romero (185) vs. Robert Whittaker (184.5)
Daniel Omielanczuk (248) vs. Curtis Blaydes (257.5)
Fabricio Werdum (239) vs. Alistair Overeem (253.5)
Anthony Pettis (156) vs. Jim Miller (155)
Travis Browne (247.5) vs. Oleksiy Oliynyk (241.5)
Chad Laprise (170) vs. Brian Camozzi (170.5)
Thiago Santos (186) vs. Gerald Meerschaert (184.5)
Jordan Mein (170) vs. Belal Muhammad (170)
Rob Font (135) vs. Douglas Silva de Andrade (134)
Cody Stamann (145) vs. Terrion Ware (145)
Trevin Giles (204) vs. James Bochnovic (201)
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Raidern   Brasil. Jul 08 2017 16:04. Posts 4243
I dont like Nunes either. She isnt humble in victory and her behavior after fights annoy me tbh. Dont really care if she wins/loses. Im way more interested in the werdum overeem fight and romero whittaker, those are the mian events for me.
its surprising for me tho how hasnt romero been caught by usada yet. he's a clear case of peds for me. you arent supposed to be a fucking terminator when you are 40yo.
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 08 2017 20:40. Posts 13030
Amanda Nunes-Valentina Shevchenko off, Yoel Romero-Robert Whittaker now UFC 213 main event
On July 08 2017 15:04 Raidern wrote:
I dont like Nunes either. She isnt humble in victory and her behavior after fights annoy me tbh. Dont really care if she wins/loses. Im way more interested in the werdum overeem fight and romero whittaker, those are the mian events for me.
its surprising for me tho how hasnt romero been caught by usada yet. he's a clear case of peds for me. you arent supposed to be a fucking terminator when you are 40yo.
I dont like Nunez but I was looking to watch this fight and im not that much into women's MMA but it was going to be a nice aggro match between two women who can actually strike
On July 07 2017 13:05 whamm! wrote:
Baal I'm sure you've known by now that in MMA a fighter is judged by his last 3 or less fights. MMA's margin of error and wear on it's fighters is so demanding that you can't judge a fighter's chances by his whole body of work. It's a momentum driven sport if anything, and whatever the fighter has on his plate at any given time is the best indicator how he performs or what version of himself shows up. Reem post USADA is even a mere shell of Pride Reem, his younger self, and that's not saying much either.
Werdum's only mistake is relying too much on his striking and trying too many new shit e.g. flying kick , he should not abandon his elite BJJ skills and learn to put it all together with his newfound striking ability. Ubereem had a tough time in their striking match in the first fight and he had only started striking more in his fights with his striking coach, what more now with post USADA reem and werdum with longer time doing striking training
Agreed that cant judge past many fights but you said specifically "post USADA" overeem sucks and his post USADA record is amazing, in fact his last 2 fights as Ubereem he lost to Silva and then to Travis Browne.
The thing is that Ubereem had probably the most potential in any HW in history, as if he didnt fuck up nobody would have a chance not even Cain but this potential never turned into results and every time he fucked up and his glass chin held him back, so ultimately I disagree with this Ubereem/Undereem narrative, he is effectively more succesful than before, sadly it isnt as entertaining as seeing him walk down a huge Lesnar and knee him in the liver with his hands down
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 09 2017 00:36. Posts 13030
There is a ton of value in the 9 televised fights' contests, so I added 5 teams into the $4 event.
It will only be half full by the time it locks.
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Raidern   Brasil. Jul 09 2017 00:45. Posts 4243
i just checked overeems record and its sick how active he is. he fought 13 times since 2011 (including today). in comparison, cain fought 7 and werdum 10 (including today as well)
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 09 2017 00:56. Posts 13030
Great performance by Cody Stamann and Trevin Giles. Both made their UFC debut on 8 days notice and looked amazing.