STAR WARS 7

I can't believe no one made a topic yet. So the new trailer got out. Pretty much every cinema in the world sold out all tickets for december 18. HYPE

i m sceptical

Definitely want to see this one asap.

very skeptical. im also getting to old for this shit.

Ah, I already posted trailer at post nr 13 in my hand history on the right there this morning!! The a5s hand

I'll have to rewatch Episode 6, cuz I don't remember shit.

Also, how is that black guy related to the story? Is he Mace Windu's son or something?

not skeptical just excited

On October 20 2015 18:53 PuertoRican wrote: I'll have to rewatch Episode 6, cuz I don't remember shit. Also, how is that black guy related to the story? Is he Mace Windu's son or something?

Are they even connected on a major note?


Skeptical as fuck too
Star Wars with no George Lucas and new story 10 years later :/

Better be dope if they are rewriting the whole cannon post RJ

Looks like that nigga will be the second black jedi after Darth Vader.

That trailer is much better than the other two. Gotta admit its making me a believer.

At least we know it can't be as bad as episodes 1-2.

Ill see it for sure, in cinema or at home depending on the ratings.

On October 20 2015 21:49 NMcNasty wrote: That trailer is much better than the other two. Gotta admit its making me a believer. At least we know it can't be as bad as episodes 1-2.

according to hipsters i ve seen in a bus today, ep2 was great, triggering all the emotions while witnessing these "huge legends" die

2 things. How much money did they have to offer to Harrison ford for him to risk ruining his 'legacy', and how quickly are they gonna announce star wars 8.

I dont like how han solo pretty much wearing exact same shit as the olden days. Really? He still the same dude at 60 as he was in his thirties? Still the space swashbuckling dude instead of admiral or whatever else? Just seems unrealistic...reminds me of Fonsie in Happy Days...doing same shit over and over till hes old man. The phrase Jump the shark exists for a reason.

That being said I am still going to watch this, expecting to be dissapointed by its pg13 rating.

you know who tilts me more than John Boyega?

Adam Driver
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so basically kylo and rey will be children of han and leia and finn is ep7 jarjar, solved

On October 20 2015 22:42 FullBRing wrote: 2 things. How much money did they have to offer to Harrison ford for him to risk ruining his 'legacy', and how quickly are they gonna announce star wars 8.

Harrison Ford already proved that he'll take any gig, as long as the paycheck is big enough.

Have you seen Indiana Jones #4? It was a steaming pile of shit.

Very excited, but feel like I'm going to end up disappointed

I need to watch 2-6 again before I see this, especially 5 and 6, the first one has not that much going on. I remember most of episode 4, and then it becomes a huge blur for me until the end of episode 6 when Darth Vader throws the Sith Lord over the rail lol.

Wow when you realize most of the fans of the original Star Wars are grandparents by now.

1-3 is shit and not worth watching more than once imo

4-6 is legendary movies

this trailer kinda gave me the 4-6 feel, but I dont know before i see it obviously. So yes, for now excited.

On October 20 2015 22:42 FullBRing wrote: 2 things. How much money did they have to offer to Harrison ford for him to risk ruining his 'legacy', and how quickly are they gonna announce star wars 8.

episode 7-8-9 already been anounced, will come every 2nd year. Also there will be 3 spinoffs for side characters every second year. So from on every year we will have a star wars movie. 1 normal 1 spinoff

I'm really excited about this. Been a fan since I was a little kid. I just want to enjoy the movie.

Any of you guys checked out s2 of Fargo, checking it now, in ep 2, so good so far. Was a bit skeptical, since True Detectives s2 didn't deliver, and i loved the first season. So far it's really good, great cast, yay.

On October 21 2015 16:52 Mariuslol wrote: Any of you guys checked out s2 of Fargo, checking it now, in ep 2, so good so far. Was a bit skeptical, since True Detectives s2 didn't deliver, and i loved the first season. So far it's really good, great cast, yay.

wrong topic bro

On October 21 2015 05:59 VanDerMeyde wrote: 1-3 is shit and not worth watching more than once imo 4-6 is legendary movies this trailer kinda gave me the 4-6 feel, but I dont know before i see it obviously. So yes, for now excited.

rly? I think the opposite.. i loved 1-3 but wouldn't go so far as to call 4-6 shit

Feel like this will be pretty good, not quite as epic as New Hope/Empire but probably better than 1-3

movie trailer looks cool, i hope it has a ton of action like it showed.

i think its awesome they are mass producing star wars movies and spinoffs. they do it for everything else, why not one of the coolest & biggest things ever? even if its a lot of mediocre shit, it'll all still be enjoyable

On October 22 2015 05:55 ggplz wrote: Show nested quote + On October 21 2015 05:59 VanDerMeyde wrote: 1-3 is shit and not worth watching more than once imo 4-6 is legendary movies this trailer kinda gave me the 4-6 feel, but I dont know before i see it obviously. So yes, for now excited. rly? I think the opposite.. i loved 1-3 but wouldn't go so far as to call 4-6 shit

By 1-3 i mean phantom menace and the ones made 2000-2005. Not the first 3 episodes that were made.

On October 22 2015 11:21 FrinkX wrote: movie trailer looks cool, i hope it has a ton of action like it showed. i think its awesome they are mass producing star wars movies and spinoffs. they do it for everything else, why not one of the coolest & biggest things ever? even if its a lot of mediocre shit, it'll all still be enjoyable

Pretty much this. I think it might even come out better and make more money than Marvel comics movies.

Did you know Disney is already planning on making 10 - 12? Crazy. I don't know how true though.

I know nobody cares but I am purposely not watching this movie solely because they expect to make huge money off of it. It's off-putting that making a decent action movie and calling it Star Wars is basically an ATM at this point. I question the artistic value and find the ideas of Ep7-22 + spinoffs depressing. And then it will be "canon" and I won't be a "true starwars fan" for not accepting it. It'll probably be a good movie but I am not going to watch it just because I thought the original trilogy was amazing and I have nostalgia.

Not that there's anything bad about being hyped about it. I'm just chiming in with my useless internet opinion. I will vote to let it die with my wallet and consciousness by not watching.

Anyone feel me? I understand movies are made to make money... but it shouldn't be the main (imo read: only) motivation for making sequels to an arguably classic work of fiction (the original trilogy.) Have some respect yo. It seems like they were like "cool we got the starwars name! we just made a shit ton of money! Now let's figure out what to make the story about" instead of "yeah we got a cool concept we believe in, let's get behind this!"

There's no risk to Disney as long as there's an 8 out of 10 action movie behind the name. Very unlike the original motivations, risk, and pressure that surrounded the shooting of A New Hope. I feel like a troll writing this out tbh and although I'm cynical about media... the idea of new films just has me apathetic. Shouldn't effect my life so why write about it? I dunno. Cheers!

On October 22 2015 12:48 VanDerMeyde wrote: Show nested quote + On October 22 2015 05:55 ggplz wrote:   On October 21 2015 05:59 VanDerMeyde wrote: 1-3 is shit and not worth watching more than once imo 4-6 is legendary movies this trailer kinda gave me the 4-6 feel, but I dont know before i see it obviously. So yes, for now excited. rly? I think the opposite.. i loved 1-3 but wouldn't go so far as to call 4-6 shit By 1-3 i mean phantom menace and the ones made 2000-2005. Not the first 3 episodes that were made.

Although you are right that ggplz probably misunderstood you, I have had a roommate tell me they enjoyed the prequels more than the originals (he watched all 6 in order having never seen them before.)

I took it as a 1% troll attempt so I didn't go "wtf dude" but I am fairly sure he was for real. Just saying... it's technically possible there could be people who liked the prequels more >.>........<.<.....?!

IMO people's hate for ep. 1-3 is over-exaggerated. Only things I can remember was ridiculously long racing scene, Jar-jar binks, Darth Vader screaming nooooo when his wife dies.

People are just gonna hate on ep. 7-9 just because of unrealistic expectations, snobbishness, people wearing Fedoras.

i think ep 3 is the best one. sue me.

On October 22 2015 16:35 LikeASet wrote: IMO people's hate for ep. 1-3 is over-exaggerated. Only things I can remember was ridiculously long racing scene, Jar-jar binks, Darth Vader screaming nooooo when his wife dies. People are just gonna hate on ep. 7-9 just because of unrealistic expectations, snobbishness, people wearing Fedoras.

i dunno man, it's the only movie i walked out on, cos it was just so bad, i was bored out of my mind. I went n got some chinese, then went home n played starcraft

That's true. Some people don't really like it. I noticed most people who find starwars boring are more into LOTR.

On October 23 2015 01:15 Mariuslol wrote: Show nested quote + On October 22 2015 16:35 LikeASet wrote: IMO people's hate for ep. 1-3 is over-exaggerated. Only things I can remember was ridiculously long racing scene, Jar-jar binks, Darth Vader screaming nooooo when his wife dies. People are just gonna hate on ep. 7-9 just because of unrealistic expectations, snobbishness, people wearing Fedoras. i dunno man, it's the only movie i walked out on, cos it was just so bad, i was bored out of my mind. I went n got some chinese, then went home n played starcraft

Wp sir

On October 23 2015 01:15 Mariuslol wrote: Show nested quote + On October 22 2015 16:35 LikeASet wrote: IMO people's hate for ep. 1-3 is over-exaggerated. Only things I can remember was ridiculously long racing scene, Jar-jar binks, Darth Vader screaming nooooo when his wife dies. People are just gonna hate on ep. 7-9 just because of unrealistic expectations, snobbishness, people wearing Fedoras. i dunno man, it's the only movie i walked out on, cos it was just so bad, i was bored out of my mind. I went n got some chinese, then went home n played starcraft

thats not really an argument, b/c you turned a girl down and went play starcraft once

On October 23 2015 19:43 dogmeat wrote: Show nested quote + On October 23 2015 01:15 Mariuslol wrote:   On October 22 2015 16:35 LikeASet wrote: IMO people's hate for ep. 1-3 is over-exaggerated. Only things I can remember was ridiculously long racing scene, Jar-jar binks, Darth Vader screaming nooooo when his wife dies. People are just gonna hate on ep. 7-9 just because of unrealistic expectations, snobbishness, people wearing Fedoras. i dunno man, it's the only movie i walked out on, cos it was just so bad, i was bored out of my mind. I went n got some chinese, then went home n played starcraft thats not really an argument, b/c you turned a girl down and went play starcraft once

But that was different, was practicing for a big BO27 showdown vs my flatmate (Tiltyboy), and he had already beat me at pretty much everything else. So this was my time to shine.

On October 22 2015 14:18 vasoline73 wrote: I know nobody cares but I am purposely not watching this movie solely because they expect to make huge money off of it. It's off-putting that making a decent action movie and calling it Star Wars is basically an ATM at this point. I question the artistic value and find the ideas of Ep7-22 + spinoffs depressing. And then it will be "canon" and I won't be a "true starwars fan" for not accepting it. It'll probably be a good movie but I am not going to watch it just because I thought the original trilogy was amazing and I have nostalgia. Not that there's anything bad about being hyped about it. I'm just chiming in with my useless internet opinion. I will vote to let it die with my wallet and consciousness by not watching. Anyone feel me? I understand movies are made to make money... but it shouldn't be the main (imo read: only) motivation for making sequels to an arguably classic work of fiction (the original trilogy.) Have some respect yo. It seems like they were like "cool we got the starwars name! we just made a shit ton of money! Now let's figure out what to make the story about" instead of "yeah we got a cool concept we believe in, let's get behind this!" There's no risk to Disney as long as there's an 8 out of 10 action movie behind the name. Very unlike the original motivations, risk, and pressure that surrounded the shooting of A New Hope. I feel like a troll writing this out tbh and although I'm cynical about media... the idea of new films just has me apathetic. Shouldn't effect my life so why write about it? I dunno. Cheers!

You're right that this will be a money train for Disney but if its any consolation the CEO of Disney has said they will not even show the Disney logo in the credits nor has it been "Disney-fied" so I'm hoping they actually came up with a good story.

Personally, I loved JJ Abrams' Star Trek movies (the first one being one of my all-time favorite movies) so I have faith he has the ability to make a great action space movie with a good story.

On October 22 2015 14:18 vasoline73 wrote: I know nobody cares but I am purposely not watching this movie solely because they expect to make huge money off of it. It's off-putting that making a decent action movie and calling it Star Wars is basically an ATM at this point. I question the artistic value and find the ideas of Ep7-22 + spinoffs depressing. And then it will be "canon" and I won't be a "true starwars fan" for not accepting it. It'll probably be a good movie but I am not going to watch it just because I thought the original trilogy was amazing and I have nostalgia. Not that there's anything bad about being hyped about it. I'm just chiming in with my useless internet opinion. I will vote to let it die with my wallet and consciousness by not watching. Anyone feel me? I understand movies are made to make money... but it shouldn't be the main (imo read: only) motivation for making sequels to an arguably classic work of fiction (the original trilogy.) Have some respect yo. It seems like they were like "cool we got the starwars name! we just made a shit ton of money! Now let's figure out what to make the story about" instead of "yeah we got a cool concept we believe in, let's get behind this!" There's no risk to Disney as long as there's an 8 out of 10 action movie behind the name. Very unlike the original motivations, risk, and pressure that surrounded the shooting of A New Hope. I feel like a troll writing this out tbh and although I'm cynical about media... the idea of new films just has me apathetic. Shouldn't effect my life so why write about it? I dunno. Cheers!

True. You can always download it.

On October 22 2015 14:25 vasoline73 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 22 2015 12:48 VanDerMeyde wrote:   On October 22 2015 05:55 ggplz wrote:   On October 21 2015 05:59 VanDerMeyde wrote: 1-3 is shit and not worth watching more than once imo 4-6 is legendary movies this trailer kinda gave me the 4-6 feel, but I dont know before i see it obviously. So yes, for now excited. rly? I think the opposite.. i loved 1-3 but wouldn't go so far as to call 4-6 shit By 1-3 i mean phantom menace and the ones made 2000-2005. Not the first 3 episodes that were made. Although you are right that ggplz probably misunderstood you, I have had a roommate tell me they enjoyed the prequels more than the originals (he watched all 6 in order having never seen them before.) I took it as a 1% troll attempt so I didn't go "wtf dude" but I am fairly sure he was for real. Just saying... it's technically possible there could be people who liked the prequels more >.>........<.<.....?!

Yeah, I understood what VanDerMeyde meant. I just like them more, not trolling. They're all good tho

no point in arguing if it's gonna be good or not..we are all gonna go watch it anyways.

and it will prob be entertaining nonetheless.

On October 24 2015 23:02 YoMeR wrote: no point in arguing if it's gonna be good or not..we are all gonna go watch it anyways. and it will prob be entertaining nonetheless.

Sounds like you're describing bad porn.

On October 22 2015 14:25 vasoline73 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 22 2015 12:48 VanDerMeyde wrote:   On October 22 2015 05:55 ggplz wrote:   On October 21 2015 05:59 VanDerMeyde wrote: 1-3 is shit and not worth watching more than once imo 4-6 is legendary movies this trailer kinda gave me the 4-6 feel, but I dont know before i see it obviously. So yes, for now excited. rly? I think the opposite.. i loved 1-3 but wouldn't go so far as to call 4-6 shit By 1-3 i mean phantom menace and the ones made 2000-2005. Not the first 3 episodes that were made. Although you are right that ggplz probably misunderstood you, I have had a roommate tell me they enjoyed the prequels more than the originals (he watched all 6 in order having never seen them before.) I took it as a 1% troll attempt so I didn't go "wtf dude" but I am fairly sure he was for real. Just saying... it's technically possible there could be people who liked the prequels more >.>........<.<.....?!

No way. How can anyone above 12 year old like the prequels more than 4-6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho16PDZGzDM

On October 26 2015 02:02 VanDerMeyde wrote: Show nested quote + On October 22 2015 14:25 vasoline73 wrote:   On October 22 2015 12:48 VanDerMeyde wrote:   On October 22 2015 05:55 ggplz wrote:   On October 21 2015 05:59 VanDerMeyde wrote: 1-3 is shit and not worth watching more than once imo 4-6 is legendary movies this trailer kinda gave me the 4-6 feel, but I dont know before i see it obviously. So yes, for now excited. rly? I think the opposite.. i loved 1-3 but wouldn't go so far as to call 4-6 shit By 1-3 i mean phantom menace and the ones made 2000-2005. Not the first 3 episodes that were made. Although you are right that ggplz probably misunderstood you, I have had a roommate tell me they enjoyed the prequels more than the originals (he watched all 6 in order having never seen them before.) I took it as a 1% troll attempt so I didn't go "wtf dude" but I am fairly sure he was for real. Just saying... it's technically possible there could be people who liked the prequels more >.>........<.<.....?! No way. How can anyone above 12 year old like the prequels more than 4-6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho16PDZGzDM

Without clicking on the link yet I'm guessing it's redlettermedia's Ep1 review (all of their prequel reviews were hilarious imo.) If I'm wrong... I will not edit. In regards to your question, you will have to ask ggplz!

On October 24 2015 18:57 ggplz wrote: Show nested quote + On October 22 2015 14:25 vasoline73 wrote:   On October 22 2015 12:48 VanDerMeyde wrote:   On October 22 2015 05:55 ggplz wrote:   On October 21 2015 05:59 VanDerMeyde wrote: 1-3 is shit and not worth watching more than once imo 4-6 is legendary movies this trailer kinda gave me the 4-6 feel, but I dont know before i see it obviously. So yes, for now excited. rly? I think the opposite.. i loved 1-3 but wouldn't go so far as to call 4-6 shit By 1-3 i mean phantom menace and the ones made 2000-2005. Not the first 3 episodes that were made. Although you are right that ggplz probably misunderstood you, I have had a roommate tell me they enjoyed the prequels more than the originals (he watched all 6 in order having never seen them before.) I took it as a 1% troll attempt so I didn't go "wtf dude" but I am fairly sure he was for real. Just saying... it's technically possible there could be people who liked the prequels more >.>........<.<.....?! Yeah, I understood what VanDerMeyde meant. I just like them more, not trolling. They're all good tho

Regardless ggplz I respect your opinion because I bet you catch a lot of flack but can also not want to question or even wonder about it because it would drive me insane . The fact is, things like this (people can like the prequels more?!) is part of the reason I stated earlier I'm not going to watch or hype the new star wars... I already have too many useless opinions, arguements and feelings dedicated to a fictional series that can rightfully be declared pointless, sad, cynical, "hater" status, hipster status, or overall pathetic by others.

Thus, being aware of this and unable to just "let it go" and accept these things without mental anxiety and "wtf dude are you serious?!?" (which is another option) and being in agreement with "dude wtf stop taking a movie series and other people's enjoyment so seriously," I'm just going to entirely avoid anything that will fuel the fire of my unhelpful mental energy that has no bearing on or benefit to my actual life.

Better to not have watched and thus have no opinion or investment over the topic than to have watched and be irritated when I hear people gushing over it. With nearly everything now I can bite my tongue but it feels wrong to do so with Star Wars for some reason. That inner rage hipster indeed comes out. I hope you can respect my honesty. A better man would just bite his tongue and see it how it is.

And if it does end up good enough for to gush over... ignorance will be my bliss. Ep IV-VI was all I needed for Star Wars. Respect!

Yeah you can go crazy going over all that stuff, probably a good idea for you to just chill and when it comes out do what you feel

Seems like a non problem lol, watch, if you think it's poop, ok, then it's poop for you, doesn't really matter what other people think!!

Should have seen this one time, I was fanboying over Mr.Robot, then these evil ppl came and told me it was shit, but nu uh, i didn't buy into that shit, I just shook my head, and labeled them as noobs at rating series (in my head, no need to be too much of a douche), and kept enjoying the shit outta it!!!

Ep 4-6 and particularly ep 4 was really about being a movie ahead of its time. No one knew what Star Wars was and boom, comes that intro + battleship, special effects that captivated alot of people.

This was far before the majority of people on this forum old enough to have been able to be truly awed by the Star Wars experience aside from understanding it was a big deal from things like sales data, afi lists, pop culture prevalence, etc all after the fact that it's huge already..

I personally thought the Anakin character in ep 2,3 did a pretty good job.

On October 26 2015 15:36 hiems wrote: I personally thought the Anakin character in ep 2,3 did a pretty good job.

same his singsong whining really captured the way the audience felt about the "films," he's a great artist to be able to capture that

you know the only two actors to win an oscar for playing the same character?
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"Without clicking on the link yet I'm guessing it's redlettermedia's Ep1 review"

Yep, a good laugh + i pretty much 100% agree about how he felt / his view on all 3

On October 27 2015 01:20 VanDerMeyde wrote: "Without clicking on the link yet I'm guessing it's redlettermedia's Ep1 review" Yep, a good laugh + i pretty much 100% agree about how he felt / his view on all 3

Their Indiana Jones 4 review was also very good XD.

On October 30 2015 06:03 RaSZi wrote: I think no George Lucas is the biggest upside to this whole thing. His dialogue is so fucking terrible and he doesnt have a clue how to make side characters (jarjar) believable. He should have left it at 4-6 which were brilliant and then give the project to someone who wouldn't cast adult Anakin. I love what JJ did to Star Trek movies. The trailer has a really sick feel to it like its a legit story again. All the legit star wars fans seem really excited about it.

i hate star wars fanboys. star wars is very entertaining but the movies are crap really. the plot from 1-6 has a lot of holes and the dialogues are ridiculous. hell i don't even know why i like watching it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/com...r_jar_binks_was_a_trained_force_user/

mind blown

lots of more insane evidence in comments too

On November 02 2015 06:56 Skoal wrote: https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/com...r_jar_binks_was_a_trained_force_user/ mind blown lots of more insane evidence in comments too

amazing

remarkable if true. probably a sick coincidence

that is probably the most "don't click me" sounding link i've ever seen and that includes hugesyphiliticpenisesrapingsantafairyseyesockets.net

read the whole thing and now everything makes sense

sounds legit actually, wow

anyone watched this movie yet? spoilers please.

Jedi saves day day, hano solo makes a funny. the end.

what about han solo dies, stabbed by his son kylo ren aka ben solo...?

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I have a question.

why did Yoda and Obi-wan tell Luke he had to face Vader (two times) to become a Jedi when Palpatine said he had to kill Vader to become Palpatine's apprentice?

why did Yoda and Obi-wan tell Luke he had to face Vader (two times) to become a Jedi when Palpatine said he had to kill Vader to become Palpatine's apprentice?

Luke had to "face" Vader, as in face his fears and reject them. Palpatine wanted Luke to "strike down" Vader by letting his fear consume him and channeling that fear via aggression.

It was a really great Action Movie 8/10 despite for some reasons not feeling like a real Star Wars
Never got me this "Star Wars Feeling" of the really first Star Wars or Empire Strikes back

The Film itself was entertaining , fully packed with action and humor.

Story is basically non existend
Music Soundtrack is below what i expected
Some stuff was rally unnecessarily bad

Overall:
+ Fast pace , lots of action , lots of stuff exploding some tryhard nostalgia jokes

RIP olos nah

On November 02 2015 06:56 Skoal wrote: https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/com...r_jar_binks_was_a_trained_force_user/ mind blown lots of more insane evidence in comments too

i just spent like 4 hours reading through that thread

so good

Twitch chat spoiled the whole movie for me, no point going to theater anymore FeelsBadMan

I have a question

after Obi-wan died, Luke was just walking around with force powers and a lightsaber with no training for 3 years until Obi-wan visited him as a hallucination when he was on the verge of freezing to death to tell him to find Yoda and get training?

This guy was present after ever scene of victory in my theater



lol star wars nerds. I challenged myself to start a clap when Han dies, of course I was too chicken shit to do it.

On December 19 2015 14:55 ClouD87 wrote: J.J. Abrams spoiled the whole movie for me, no point going to theater anymore FeelsBadMan

fyp

woa was that a sequel or a remake

r u srs with that superweapon?

Shoulda just made movies out of the Thrawn novels

On December 20 2015 12:21 traxamillion wrote: woa was that a sequel or a remake r u srs with that superweapon? Shoulda just made movies out of the Thrawn novels

Those kind of posts make me not want to go see it. I was expecting the movie to be a money milker from the start. I m not really impressed by the whole series, probably because i'm a bit younger than most fans. If its really remake- like i ll feel disgusted.
Overall I've had mixed feelings about JJ Abrams's work considering both Fringe and Lost were really good and then turned into money milking shit. Star Trek was good, but i had not seen any star trek movies prior to his so

On December 20 2015 20:49 Spitfiree wrote: Show nested quote + On December 20 2015 12:21 traxamillion wrote: woa was that a sequel or a remake r u srs with that superweapon? Shoulda just made movies out of the Thrawn novels Those kind of posts make me not want to go see it. I was expecting the movie to be a money milker from the start. I m not really impressed by the whole series, probably because i'm a bit younger than most fans. If its really remake- like i ll feel disgusted. Overall I've had mixed feelings about JJ Abrams's work considering both Fringe and Lost were really good and then turned into money milking shit. Star Trek was good, but i had not seen any star trek movies prior to his so

I think they took the safe route by re-enacting a lot of classic themes & scenes just to make sure the movie wouldnt bomb. Hopefully the next one will have a chance to be truly unique now that it is proven somebody else can direct star wars.

On December 21 2015 02:08 NewbSaibot wrote: Show nested quote + On December 20 2015 20:49 Spitfiree wrote:   On December 20 2015 12:21 traxamillion wrote: woa was that a sequel or a remake r u srs with that superweapon? Shoulda just made movies out of the Thrawn novels Those kind of posts make me not want to go see it. I was expecting the movie to be a money milker from the start. I m not really impressed by the whole series, probably because i'm a bit younger than most fans. If its really remake- like i ll feel disgusted. Overall I've had mixed feelings about JJ Abrams's work considering both Fringe and Lost were really good and then turned into money milking shit. Star Trek was good, but i had not seen any star trek movies prior to his so I think they took the safe route by re-enacting a lot of classic themes & scenes just to make sure the movie wouldnt bomb. Hopefully the next one will have a chance to be truly unique now that it is proven somebody else can direct star wars.

George Lucas only directed A New Hope and the prequel trilogy so if anything he's the one who would need to prove he can direct SW

Not a fan of ep 7 at all.

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yeah some parts are quite good and some parts are quite shit

off the top of my head, the pacing at the beginning is bad. that is, the action is too fast considering we have no investment in any of the characters. finn and poe's meeting is good, but then the rey meeting, then han

rey's introduction was good, like it has backstory. Finn's was NOT good because his introduction was eclipsed by the introduction of Poe and Max Von Sydow and Darth Faker which all happened in like 3 minutes, and then Finn being in the sidelines, that just didn't work

there's emotional blending in this which resembles self-parody. some of it is good, like when han says how do we blow it up, and when c3po gets in the way when han and leia meet. some of it is bad like when people that i have no idea who they are were threatening han on his own ship and a cgi kraken was providing the imaginary tenseness as we knew none of the main characters were in danger

third death star is fine in principle, also because it's built into a planet or something, it's different this time. however, it was utilized terribly because it's not the size of the weapon per se that makes it menacing. so when it blows up those fucking planets that everyone in the audience is like uhh okay whatever those planets were, it's totally meaningless. even the main characters are looking up at the sky going oh my god, not those... planets... whatever they were

the Nazi symbolism with the first order was way too thick

the conversation han and leia have about darth faker is cringe terrible explanation. it's a conversation that doesn't make sense for those people to say to each other. if it were han or leia talking to someone else it would make sense, but it doesn't make sense for two parents to talk that way. like "by the way i saw our only son, the one who was born in 1985, graduated from UCLA and became an entrepreneur, lost all his money and had to become a lousy cpa in his grandfather's footsteps, that son"

another thing that happened way too fast was Rey's introduction to the lightsaber. this was actually a good idea. but the problem is all she did was walk down a staircase and through one door. the tone didn't have enough time to sink in. if she had wandered a little bit longer (The sequence it reminded me of was when Luke was walking around looking for Vader partway through the Empire duel) and the tension had been built up and that damn CGI barmaid hadn't interrupted the flashback INSTANTLY and been like "oh that lightsaber is calling to you!"

also the idea that han had never used chewie's crossbow before in like 50 years is bullshit

Good points Santafairy.

BB8 is not badly done

some people are praising Kylo Ren as a villain, he seems more like an Anakin-esque whiny bitch to me, possibly his mask was handled badly, it came off too early and then too often.

previously we have things like Obi-wan's hood, he takes it off and suddenly it's Alec Guinness, now that's a big reveal for 70s audiences and after that you don't need to hide Obi-wan's face. but the point of Vader, Jason Vorhees, basically anyone with a mask is they always have a mask on. even that guy in Naruto. i don't know if i'm supposed to know who the Kylo Ren actor is or something, but taking his mask off was quite a mistake. at least as far as taking it off in front of Rey was a mistake. I can definitely see it working if they had WAITED until the confrontation with Han. that was a big part of Vader's mask coming off ("son, let me look on you with my own eyes" which would have made a nice parallel, but as is, it doesn't mean anything to the audience to see Kylo Ren's face with Han if it's not for the first time, do you see what I mean? like here is the order of people seeing Kylo Ren's face:
1) the audience
2) Rey
3) Snoke
4) that First Order guy
5) Han Solo, his father, shortly before patricide

1 and 5 need to be next to each other for the emotional impact to work, this actually seems really basic. because Han's death itself I actually thought was quite good i'm not sure what the effect was supposed to be, i got sick of hearing the "thud" his mask makes when he drops it to the ground, it sounds like a dropping a helmet out of your inventory in Diablo. am I wrong here? would like to hear someone else's take

some shit was really awful, like what guy on the cutting board thought people wanted to hear C3PO say "Thank the maker" again. like some of these ideas are laughably bad that they ended up in the final cut. the film as a whole is above the prequels but it has these random moments that break your enjoyment and you're just like why did they fucking do that

problem with giving Chewie a big role is now Han's dead and we have to deal with Chewie despite him having no chemistry with anyone else. on the other hand, you sort of have to give Chewie a big role because who else would Han be with? i was not super impressed by Rey and Chewie flying off together

Luke? meh

Rey is a fairly good character though, the actress has serious sexual charisma, on par with Harrison Ford in the original trilogy. it's nice to have a woman in the films who isn't royalty. Finn is more like fake adrenaline, same as people noticed in the trailers, he's always out of breath, he's always trying to seem like he's in the middle of something exciting. not that I'm indicting his acting necessarily, but his character arc is weird at a writing/directing level

On December 21 2015 07:45 ggplz wrote: Good points Santafairy.

thanks, i'm glad i wasn't alone in being confused about how to feel when an ex-stormtrooper of 1 day was being slung around by tentacles through han solo's ship, by a monster that swallowed everyone else immediately in one bite, only to be rescued by his second best friend that he had just met that day. i think that's all my initial impressions. i might see again but not out of a compulsion that it's a home-run

Empire Strikes Back being my favorite film, I'm optimistic, although not certain, that this could be a setup to an amazing Episode 8

okay last things seriously:

On December 19 2015 10:03 PplusAD wrote: Story is basically non existend Some stuff was rally unnecessarily bad

yep. WHY are we looking for Luke?

On December 19 2015 10:03 PplusAD wrote: Music Soundtrack is below what i expected

this is also true and surprising, because the trailers had good soundtracks and the music was expertly used

Well, I'm not hopeful at all, they really fucked this up. The previous movies were toiled over by the minds and eyes of perfectionists but sadly that's not true at all any longer. Seems like whatever JJ Abrams touches ends up like this and they committed to these crappy actors probably for ep 8 & 9 at the very least. Totally disagree with you about Rey. This is star wars bro, there's no room for "fairly good characters", only freaking awesome ones. Black startrooper with feels defecting? Wtf, that's a total violation of Star Wars, not a character. Rey was specifically put in for the feminists, she wasn't "cool", I mean even young Anakin was cool. But hey, there's one for the scoreboard, another female in a great main Hollywood role because that's what it's all about: equality and all that, 50%, not casting strong young male actors, getting it done and actually making good stuff.

I definitely thought it was a good movie, undoubtedly far better than 1-2-3. Personally I liked the references to the old movies (Han, Leia, Luke, and lots of other more subtle references), I liked that they used the same guy for music, same guy who wrote 5-6, etc. They took a lot of the old movies and kept what was good and removed what wasn't (George Lucas). They had a tough job introducing a new droid and they did a more than fine job with BB8. Overall I came out satisfied seeing the movie, but obviously there's some really dumb things, most notably a map to a person who stands on the same spot for 10 years, and another bigger death star.

Rey was the only decent character in the entire movie. Leia was horrible.

Imo the whole thing with a stormtrooper deserting is just a bad story and makes no sense.
Kylo was a really shitty character. Anakin all over again but atleast anakin had some motives trying to save his lover's life etc. I mean common, Han and Leia's son just randomly joins the dark side for no reason, just because he thinks his grandfather was cool? He never even met him and Leia is supposed to be one of the most loving persons in the world yet she failed miserably with raising her child apparently.
Also Kylo is suuuper strong in the beginning of the movie, yet he barely defeats a stormtrooper in a light saber fight later on? Sigh.

All combat scenes were bad.

The Republic getting owned by a new deathstar and nobody cares, Luke doesn't care... Uuhh..

6/10 just because it's star wars I guess? Worse than 1-3 imo.

On December 21 2015 07:56 Santafairy wrote: some people are praising Kylo Ren as a villain, he seems more like an Anakin-esque whiny bitch to me, possibly his mask was handled badly, it came off too early and then too often.

I was skeptical of Darth Vader 2.0 from the previews, but then we learn that he literally is a wannabe Darth Vader. Part of me was relieved they got his backstory explained and mask off early because I thought they were going to milk that fake mysteriousness for another two movies. I mean I'm all for well-rounded characters, but the problem is that this is one of three young conflicted characters and he's being used as replacement for what could be a legitimately intimidating villain. Supreme leader Snoke (btw that's a terrible name for an archvillain), isn't remotely scary at all, so far he just reminds of the orc from the Hobbit trilogy. Ginger Hitler doesn't do anything for me either and the female stormtrooper is just an awkward presence.

Granted, Darth Vader is one of the greatest villains of all time so trying to live up to him actually is an impossible task. Still, it seems like episode 7 hardly even tried. Killing Han Solo (which I am OK with in principle) was really just a cheap way to try and add depth and seriousness to Kylo Ren and the film in general.

So i went and saw it after all, only thing i can add is when Kaylo removed his mask on demand of Han Solo the whole room started laughing, pretty bad choice at antagonist

Feminist motif annoys me but it probably brings in lots of $$$ so from a free market perspective it's whatever I guess.

Hollywood is a huge joke with equal opportunity. I have heard about Aloha and The Martian was a huge joke with regards to discrimination against asian people (I'm an Asian male fed up wit Hollywood). Lots of opportunity to do the right thing without affecting $$$ bottom line but am disappointed pretty much every single time.

Other than that whole world being run over by women thing (lol) and the jedi always winning at the end thing (lol) I had a good time. I just zone out things I think are stupid and write my own ending. You can nitpick a million things and it's going to get you nowhere.

On December 21 2015 14:05 Nazgul wrote: I definitely thought it was a good movie, undoubtedly far better than 1-2-3. Personally I liked the references to the old movies (Han, Leia, Luke, and lots of other more subtle references), I liked that they used the same guy for music, same guy who wrote 5-6, etc. They took a lot of the old movies and kept what was good and removed what wasn't (George Lucas). They had a tough job introducing a new droid and they did a more than fine job with BB8. Overall I came out satisfied seeing the movie, but obviously there's some really dumb things, most notably a map to a person who stands on the same spot for 10 years, and another bigger death star.

agreed

love the Star Wars universe

the movies could all be so much better and 7 is no exception

nice casual popcorn movie but pretty forgettable

it's nice everything is fast paced and there is always something going on but would be nice if more of it made sense, have a few on top of what some people already posted but this one stands out:

Why is Rey beating a trained sith w/ a light sabre her first time using one? She's learning way too fast in general with 0 training, 0 exposure. Luke was fishing for quite a while even with obiwan 1on1 training and then whispering in his ear

Really surprised at the high ratings the movie is getting so far, imdb 8.7 (putting it in top 20 movies of all time) and rotten tomatoes 95%(!), guess those will come down a bit over time but wtf

I don't mind Ren's backstory being clear either, I just have a problem with the way it was explained. if you're in a star wars movie and you want your audience to know something just by telling them what it is, it should go in THE OPENING CRAWL. like "Luke Skywalker has disappeared. The son of Han Solo and Leia Organa has turned to the dark side." when Obi-wan was telling Luke about Vader's backstory in ANH, that was an interesting conversation because Luke was also learning things. when Han and Leia talk about Kylo Ren, it's just cringe, the conversation doesn't flow at all

more things i thought of:
-starkiller base conveniently waits until the heroes finish their lightsaber duel and leave before it explodes
-multicultural x-wing pilots that we've never met and don't care about including lando calrisian's space mexican copilot from return of the jedi
-another fat x-wing pilot
-the guy who blew up starkiller base doesn't do enough talking to guide the action which makes that scene boring because you're just waiting for it to get destroyed instead of following closely what's happening

in this movie all the characters know each other too well. particularly when the characters are on opposite sides, but also when they meet and instantly become best friends. the relationships don't develop naturally, unlike in A New Hope. like why are Kylo Ren and Rey getting into each other's heads so much, why does Kylo Ren care about a random stormtrooper

i think this is the first star wars movie where someone says the word "boyfriend" and call me whatever but that was really obnoxious. certain parts of dialogue like this are out of place in an epic movie. that's NOT to say people need to be stale zombies like in the prequels. but in the original trilogy it was clear these people were larger than life. the sexual tension among han/luke/leia in the OT was great ("You think a princess, and a guy like me...?" "No" and in this movie it's replaced by "u got boyfriend??"
-and when Poe gets captured at the beginning and is like "lol who talks first i talk first u talk first?" Star Wars isn't a sitcom, that line gave the movie AIDS from the beginning, I would say it's unbelievable that some of this stuff is in the movie, but one look at Star Trek and it's not surprising.

I don't know why I'm coming back to The Dark Knight but that was a great movie to watch. there's never a moment in TDK that panders or annoys me. the tone is TDK is perfect, but it still incorporates humor and we can see real emotional conflicts between characters. it's an epic movie. maybe my tastes are no better than anyone else's, but if you ask me, it's about tone, that's why people like Pulp Fiction. i don't want to see a Star Wars movie "trying" to be funny. that leads to Gungans stepping in piles of shit. humor is great, like when Han is trying to ravish Leia and C3PO interrupts them. am i wrong here? i feel like there is a difference. if C3PO had interrupted Han and Leia in Empire by saying something like "oh it looks like i've caused a failed docking hue hue hue hue hue," it would be different. but it didn't happen that way, C3PO is just a retard. i don't like when a character in a movie says something that basically means "hi audience, this part is supposed to be funny, so that's your cue to laugh"

everything that was CGI stuck out terribly. including Rey's boss on Jakku, the fucking monster on Han's ship, the creepy bitch in the cantina.

when Simon Pegg showed up on Han Solo's ship, it was like the actor wasn't even convinced he should be there. first thing he says is "you're a dead man *yawn*" then dies 2 minutes later

if that stormtrooper that Rey did the mind trick on was Daniel Craig then that was great

the meeting where they plan the attack on Starkiller base is too communist, there is no clear hierarchy of command in the rebels. everyone is just standing around in a circle like a bunch of hippies. on one hand we see admiral akbar, han solo, general leia, and on the other hand there's some random asian guy doing a bunch of talking while the characters we accept as leaders are like cameos

I disagree with Nazgul about "subtle" references in general:

the Falcon reveal is classic, it was perfect, the problem is for like 30 minutes after that it's nothing but fan service. once they're on the falcon it's like oh here's the turret, you liked that right? here's the turret computer, remember that? here's the compartment for hiding, see it's star wars again, here's the repair compartment when space tools fell on Han after the Falcon flew into an asteroid field in E5, now Rey is in it haha see it's star wars again, here's the holographic game, look Finn accidentally turned it on haha! this chain of callbacks was annoying

a lot of things weren't bad though, like Poe crouching to give a secret message to a droid (copying Leia/R2), a trench for the x-wings on Starkiller base, the "emperor" being a huge hologram. these things seemed to fit better, whereas a lot of shit about the Falcon was sort of thrown in for no reason

why was the new emperor CGI though. he's even CGI in-universe. a CGI hologram. the fuck

one thing that i don't know what to make of it was as soon as Han says to Chewie "let's meet back here later" it was really obvious Han was about to die, I think that might be obvious even to someone who hadn't been informed ahead of time, I'm not saying this is a bad thing, I really don't know what to make of it, I think it was actually good. as I said before I liked the way Han's death was handled, it's one of the only properly paced things in the movie, and I think that line helped set the doom-mood

the very final shot wasn't good, the helicopter shot of rey and luke, i'm not a cinematographer but it was like luke's back, rey's face, luke's face, rey's face, lightsaber, rey's face luke's face, then suddenly a far away helicopter shot of two people who could just as easily be stunt doubles facing each other, then credits. kind of messed up the mood, JJ Abrams just seems to like circles

agree with smuft about Rey adapting too fast, I think it's tied to the pacing of the movie, it needed more downtime from action. i guess the director who was a huge star wars fan and wanted the same things we did, like physical sets and real effects, thought we wanted to see a space kraken killing a bunch of disposable characters instead of using that time to watch Rey learn about the fucking force like Luke did in ANH. space kraken was more like a bad indiana jones scene, not in character for Han Solo at all. despite being a smuggler, he's not in a cartoon, it's star wars

money-grubbing douchebags. it was not exactly the star wars version of terminator genisys but it's not too far away. it's almost as though there was a lack of confidence in the new leads to carry the movie on their own without all these callbacks. i think the space chess set on the falcon is just the best example, because that's a scene in A New Hope that was about killing time on a long space trip, just sitting around and talking, giving the audience more depth to the characters, letting us watch Luke discover the force, watch how Han thinks it's all bunk. in E7 the same space chess set is slapstick

huge blockbusters get rating inflated nowadays on IMDB and stuff. same thing happened with the hobbits. it really is true that people need to like expensive movies or something, like the movie is an authority and if they treat a huge movie just like any other, instead of special because it's $200 million or whatever, they don't feel allowed to notice it's shit or something

I just hate how Finn has no backstory. anyway, this movie actually has no rewatch value. then again, I don't know that I've rewatched any SW movies over the age of 18, maybe it's just a kids' thing. I swear Empire is the only one that's an actual film.

a weird idea I had was that Rey might be related to Obi-wan somehow. it doesn't sound very plausible now, maybe because Kylo Ren was "Ben Solo" I thought it would be a fitting twist for Rey to actually be related to Obi-wan. OH, I remember, I thought it was an explanation for R2D2 waking up - in A New Hope, R2D2 considered Obi-wan his master, so I thought it would be fitting for him to "wake up" in the presence of a Kenobi

anyway what I'm saying has stopped being intelligible, basically I'm leaning towards overall this movie doesn't make it

On December 22 2015 18:17 Smuft wrote: love the Star Wars universe the movies could all be so much better and 7 is no exception nice casual popcorn movie but pretty forgettable it's nice everything is fast paced and there is always something going on but would be nice if more of it made sense, have a few on top of what some people already posted but this one stands out: Why is Rey beating a trained sith w/ a light sabre her first time using one? She's learning way too fast in general with 0 training, 0 exposure. Luke was fishing for quite a while even with obiwan 1on1 training and then whispering in his ear Really surprised at the high ratings the movie is getting so far, imdb 8.7 (putting it in top 20 movies of all time) and rotten tomatoes 95%(!), guess those will come down a bit over time but wtf

Really didn't like that one either. Excuse makers refer to Chewie shooting him beforehand but it is just over the top to me, same for Finn holding his own.

So many things wrong in the movie.

- Sun sucking superweapon. Really? You know how much energy is in a star? Suck up 0,01% of that energy and the planetthing would blow up. What the hell do they do after the sun is gone? They can't live on that planet anymore.

- Girl beating a sith apprentice (albeit injured sith apprentice). Come on. At least give her some training in the movie beforehand. Now it's like, be in an impossible spot (on a cliff, lightsaber to the face), close your eyes and suddenly you are able to beat an apprentice sith? What's with the sith guy not just grabbing her neck again with that force grab thingy dark force users can do? Or just push her of a cliff.

- Ok so super weapon failed. Entire republic army and planets are gone. They KNOW where the rebel base is. So the super weapon dies and everyone is happy on the rebel planet? They could have just sent their 50 frigates over and bombed the planet to shit.

- No character development in the movie apart from girl going from scavenger to full jedi in 2 days.

So movie 7 was basically a worse movie 4. Everything was super predictable. Young apprentice jedi gets help from old guy and old guy dies in the movie to the bad guy dark force user. There's a super weapon that a few rebels in a bunch of rag-tag heaps of crap are able to just.. destroy. Everyone is incapable as fuck. Except for 20 year old girl, who kicks everyone's ass and suddenly, without any knowledge of it beforehand, gets the jedi mind trick thingy in 3 tries.

Movie 1 was better than 7.

End rant. At least it was enjoyable but there's no way it deserves the hype it's getting and it certainly doesn't deserve the ratings it's getting. It's worth like.. a 6,5 on IMDB or something. Nice nostalgia moments (which were too many) and the actors did decently with what they got. Lightsaber battle is worse than the one in episode 5. Yeah they're not very advanced, but make it a little more exciting .

is this not the first Star Wars movie to feature blood?

I mean not in passing like a midichlorian test, but as in someone is hurt and they are literally bleeding?

and who's the first person in the franchise we see bleed? a random stormtrooper. and why does he bleed? so he can put his bloody hand mark on one of the lead's helmets because we can't tell the lead, a stormtrooper, apart from all the other stormtroopers without this identifying mark

and who is the second person to bleed? a villain we already consider weak as shit? any other blood that i'm missing? in Matrix Reloaded, when Neo bleeds it's corny as shit on paper, but effective for the context

agree with twisted about 6.5 on imdb, that's about right

the lightsaber duel was definitely weird as shit. the people who made this probably felt it was necessary to have a duel in every movie. and that might even be true. but it doesn't work to kill Han Solo and then have a 3way duel between a bunch of people we don't care about knowing full well a second person isn't going to die. does that make sense? like in A New Hope, Vader actually kills Obi-wan. in Empire Luke loses a hand. in Jedi, Vader and Luke duel, but the duel itself isn't exactly what causes Vader and the Emperor to die

in ANH, Luke's use of the force was very slight. he blocked some laser pings while blinded, and he shot a torpedo without a computer, also shot the door to Vader when the Falcon was escaping the Death Star. the truth is Luke plays as a strong character anyway, just like Han does, who doesn't believe in the force at all. in this movie Rey is doing mind tricks and force pushes and pulls out of nowhere

in this duel, Finn starts off by turning on the lightsaber and saying something to the effect of "come at me bro" but then he charges Kylo Ren and starts wailing. doesn't make sense

then a little bit later he charges at Ren again, and Ren casually steps aside. this reminded me of when Tim Roth is toying with a wounded Liam Neeson in Rob Roy.

also, when Rey force pulls the lightsaber past Ren, Ren should have just fucking caught it since it flew right in his face, that was a terrible fakeout

Wasn't that helmet that she put on at the beginning a Rebel helmet? when she hallucinate/senses BB8 over the ridge.

I think you guys are overlooking the good parts and focusing too much on the negative.

We saw a lot more possibility of the force that was being lost from previous prequels. The scene where Kylo stops the blast in mid air was straight gangster and the display of mind reading capabilities showed so much more potential to the force. To me, Kylo completed this movie and Han Solo's part in bringing the old together with the new couldnt be done better. The build up leading up to his death by his son captured me so well and the scene where Kylo ultimately takes his life made the little boy in me cry. That scene was the turning point for the raged filled confused little child who showed potential to be "seduced to the light side" taking his ultimate line of no return. Dark Vader made all his ultimate decision for others, ultimately sacrificing his life for his son. Ren is no Vader, but a much darker villain who would take his own father's life for himself.

Also, I think a lot of people missed this but the scene when Rey was united back with fin/chewy/solo in the death planet showed a lot about Rey. I was first confused as to why she would give such a heart warming hug to Finn but then it hit me that she was abandoned all her life and to have this guy he just met come back for her meant the world to her. I also wish that the person Leia hugged after they returned without Solo would've been chewy but I guess it would make sense if Ren is a skywalker.

not ep 7 related, but in ep 6 after luke defeats vader, why isnt he starting to attack the emperor? instead he throws his lightsabre on the floor

The only scene I really enjoyed was when Chewie went rampage mode after Han died. Other than that, pretty forgettable, and a terrible plot.

Not a big Star Wars fan at all.

This movie was exceptional. Great cast (Rey and Finn were just great). Great action, great humor. Everything was just great.

it was very enjoyable imo, thought it was fun. Like I sad before, starwars movies are mostly crap but they can be very entertaining. I cant understand people who praise eps 4-6. They are crap too, they are just very entertaining as well. I feel like there's way too much nit picking on the movie in this thread.

Love the movie, seen it twice so far.

IMO just appreciate it as a classic good vs evil, fantasy/adventure movie. I appreciate the fact that I was entertained so much by something that didn't have to be overly dramatic action/wise with fancy fight choreography or tons of ridiculous slow-motion explosions and didn't involve superficial and unnecessary sexual/romantic scenes. The movie had a good amount of humorous parts, and even though certain events were predictable, they still successfully invoked strong emotional responses.

I feel that the people that are complaining about this movie or didn't enjoy it at all take the series way too seriously, or they watch every movie like its a Jason Borne movie. I also feel like the people that are complaining were going to complain no matter how the movie turned out.

Some characters do come out of nowhere but I think the movie does a good job balancing the retention of mystery and story unveiling, we all are going into this knowing that it's going to be a trilogy. I was slightly disappointed about the lack of Luke Sky walker in the movie, the early trailers with Luke's narration are very misleading. It is also kinda confusing how this evil empire was going unchecked long enough to gather enough resources and have enough time to build a planet-sized weapon that can destroy whole solar systems instantly.

Overall was the movie perfect? Probably not, but it's a movie I'm happy watching multiple times, paying the full movie ticket price, and then buying it when it comes out on DVD and just randomly watching down the road years from now with friends and family. On a scale of 1-10 I'd give this movie about a 9.5-9.75. I can see people giving this movie a 9, or even an 8, but to say that this movie is "crap" is hard for me to personally understand.

I'm glad you guys enjoyed it, surely that was their intention after all. However, there were unquestionably a lot of problems with it and that for me ruined the film. I could look at you the same way you assume things about me/us and write that you wouldn't take it too seriously, it's a movie, etc etc so you wouldn't complain regardless. A large part of it is your attitude when you watch it and how willing you are to let go of minor gripes. Gripes that do remain, however. Being non critical isn't an excuse to discredit other people's more critical opinions. Note that none of you have really challenged our critiques or complaints just stated they're overly critical or that you enjoyed it and didn't see it that way. There certainly were good parts but they were overshadowed by a constant stream of bad parts imho. For me, it's a fact the movie lacked the finesse, taste and mastery it deserved.

i dont mean to challenge anyone's critique. my critique is exactly what you said: i think you are being overcritical. like complaining about the last scene:

the very final shot wasn't good, the helicopter shot of rey and luke, i'm not a cinematographer but it was like luke's back, rey's face, luke's face, rey's face, lightsaber, rey's face luke's face, then suddenly a far away helicopter shot of two people who could just as easily be stunt doubles facing each other, then credits. kind of messed up the mood, JJ Abrams just seems to like circles

like what

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also, when Rey force pulls the lightsaber past Ren, Ren should have just fucking caught it since it flew right in his face, that was a terrible fakeout

imo when you look at star wars from a cinematic/critic point of view then you cant enjoy the movie at all because the movies do suck from that point of view. If I were to overanalyze every superhero or scifi movie the same way you guys are doing with starwars then I'd probably give up on watching these kind of movies because I'd notice so many mistakes/stupid things. Just the idea of someone wearing an outfit such as Batman and having a deep voice like his is ridiculous that's where I'd start from and that would probably keep me from watching that movie.

But I don't disagree with most of your critique. I think they are very accurate on pretty much everything. I've said it before the movies: I dunno why I like SW. They are crap, the series is full of stupid holes, the trilogies are not well connected, Anakin's transformation was absolutely ridiculous, from a whiny Jedi to a 'younglings' killer in an blink of an eye. He never acted or looked like Vader, even for a second. But in the end I think the movies and the universe is very enjoyable and entertaining. Why? Because I chose not to pay attention to any of that when I'm watching a Star Wars movie. I just let it run and enjoy things I find cool. But to each his own I suppose.

On December 25 2015 15:11 Raidern wrote: i dont mean to challenge anyone's critique. my critique is exactly what you said: i think you are being overcritical. like complaining about the last scene: Show nested quote + the very final shot wasn't good, the helicopter shot of rey and luke, i'm not a cinematographer but it was like luke's back, rey's face, luke's face, rey's face, lightsaber, rey's face luke's face, then suddenly a far away helicopter shot of two people who could just as easily be stunt doubles facing each other, then credits. kind of messed up the mood, JJ Abrams just seems to like circles like what or   also, when Rey force pulls the lightsaber past Ren, Ren should have just fucking caught it since it flew right in his face, that was a terrible fakeout imo when you look at star wars from a cinematic/critic point of view then you cant enjoy the movie at all because the movies do suck from that point of view. If I were to overanalyze every superhero or scifi movie the same way you guys are doing with starwars then I'd probably give up on watching these kind of movies because I'd notice so many mistakes/stupid things. Just the idea of someone wearing an outfit such as Batman and having a deep voice like his is ridiculous that's where I'd start from and that would probably keep me from watching that movie. But I don't disagree with most of your critique. I think they are very accurate on pretty much everything. I've said it before the movies: I dunno why I like SW. They are crap, the series is full of stupid holes, the trilogies are not well connected, Anakin's transformation was absolutely ridiculous, from a whiny Jedi to a 'younglings' killer in an blink of an eye. He never acted or looked like Vader, even for a second. But in the end I think the movies and the universe is very enjoyable and entertaining. Why? Because I chose not to pay attention to any of that when I'm watching a Star Wars movie. I just let it run and enjoy things I find cool. But to each his own I suppose.

Gotta agree with Raidern,

All of these nit picks, you can find a million reasons to excuse them, or a million reasons to be critical of them.

During the second time watching the movie, I literally laughed out loud in the theater at the scene when it kept cutting between Luke's and the girl's faces just starting at each other, but I find it weird being in the mindset that people would be upset about it.

When Kylo tried to force pull the light saber out of the snow and didn't catch it, you can just say it's because he was surprised that it didn't fly in the trajectory he tried to pull it in, that he was severely injured, and he was out of focus and still super emotional after killing his own father.

I acknowledge and agree the fact GGplz stated that some people are too non-critical and some people too critical, but people forget that they're watching a fantasy movie where the improbable is supposed to happen. There is a threshold that can be broken, but I didn't find any significant moments that broke that threshold. You would watch this movie with the a different lens that you would watch the Star Trek series in, because that's a series that makes an attempt to stay within scientific reasoning and possible, likely situations that would arise when different alien civilizations try to cooperate with each other.

One example of a threshold being broken in an adventure movie was during the latest Indiana Jones movie, when Shia Lebouf's character started swinging on vines through the jungle with a bunch of monkeys in order to catch up to the villain riding on vehicles. During that moment I thought to myself, "Okay, now this is just stupid."

On December 25 2015 15:11 Raidern wrote: i dont mean to challenge anyone's critique. my critique is exactly what you said: i think you are being overcritical. like complaining about the last scene: Show nested quote + the very final shot wasn't good, the helicopter shot of rey and luke, i'm not a cinematographer but it was like luke's back, rey's face, luke's face, rey's face, lightsaber, rey's face luke's face, then suddenly a far away helicopter shot of two people who could just as easily be stunt doubles facing each other, then credits. kind of messed up the mood, JJ Abrams just seems to like circles like what or   also, when Rey force pulls the lightsaber past Ren, Ren should have just fucking caught it since it flew right in his face, that was a terrible fakeout imo when you look at star wars from a cinematic/critic point of view then you cant enjoy the movie at all because the movies do suck from that point of view. If I were to overanalyze every superhero or scifi movie the same way you guys are doing with starwars then I'd probably give up on watching these kind of movies because I'd notice so many mistakes/stupid things. Just the idea of someone wearing an outfit such as Batman and having a deep voice like his is ridiculous that's where I'd start from and that would probably keep me from watching that movie. But I don't disagree with most of your critique. I think they are very accurate on pretty much everything. I've said it before the movies: I dunno why I like SW. They are crap, the series is full of stupid holes, the trilogies are not well connected, Anakin's transformation was absolutely ridiculous, from a whiny Jedi to a 'younglings' killer in an blink of an eye. He never acted or looked like Vader, even for a second. But in the end I think the movies and the universe is very enjoyable and entertaining. Why? Because I chose not to pay attention to any of that when I'm watching a Star Wars movie. I just let it run and enjoy things I find cool. But to each his own I suppose.

I don't believe I'm overanalyzing, I can't speak for other people. I didn't enter the theater with a chip on my shoulder or something. It's not nitpicking, these things all just jumped out at me. I just don't have the irrational hype of everyone else clouding my vision. I looked at it just like I would look at any other movie. I feel no obligation to enjoy it just because it cost $200 million, just because it has this director or that actor or has Star Wars in the name. Nothing would make me happier than to see a new great movie. SW7 just isn't one. There's lots of stuff in this movie I liked or thought had promise, but promising isn't good enough for me for a final cut. Good movies don't give you the chance to nitpick.

Suspending your disbelief is like when Luke crash-lands in the one swamp on the entire planet of Dagobah where Yoda lives. Nobody thinks twice about that. Nobody goes "How did Vader get to Cloud City first?" That's good. Or when the Imperial probe lands on the one place on Hoth where the Rebel base is. But smuggling a CGI space kraken with eyes the size of doors tries my patience. It's not that I'm looking for shit that doesn't make sense. I can excuse some shit not making sense. Every movie will have things that don't add up, and things that are bad. Do you know even in the beginning of the Godfather, at the wedding, they're singing and dancing and shit, and Michael is talking to Kay, and he's telling her some things about the family, and then he says "Do you like your lasagna?" and it cuts to another scene, that line to me is one of the cheesiest possible ways to end that conversation, it just fucking beats us over the head, like we get it, they're Italians. But a good movie doesn't let you notice those things, or minimizes them. I'm not saying like "Another death star? 2/10" or something. It's the confluence of garbage parts. When they start adding up, it's hard to ignore.

I personally loved The Dark Knight, I don't know why it keeps coming up, but it's a superhero movie, it's fantasy, it's not real. I went into it not expecting anything, same as SW7, and it turned out great. The Hobbit is fantasy too, but an elf archer surfing on falling CGI rocks doesn't seem to hold up. We all have a shit tolerance level. I'm personally not able to accept someone selling me shit with a brand name on it. This is why I can "nitpick" The Dark Knight Rises. It has enjoyable parts, but the parts that are shit are distracting, and just because it's the sequel to a great movie, that doesn't give it any free passes for me.

I think what's going on is these two groups of people just have different standards for movies in general. Which is not at all to say that it's bad that some people can enjoy a wider range of movies. I just physically can't.

On December 25 2015 18:55 Santafairy wrote: Show nested quote + On December 25 2015 15:11 Raidern wrote: i dont mean to challenge anyone's critique. my critique is exactly what you said: i think you are being overcritical. like complaining about the last scene:   the very final shot wasn't good, the helicopter shot of rey and luke, i'm not a cinematographer but it was like luke's back, rey's face, luke's face, rey's face, lightsaber, rey's face luke's face, then suddenly a far away helicopter shot of two people who could just as easily be stunt doubles facing each other, then credits. kind of messed up the mood, JJ Abrams just seems to like circles like what or   also, when Rey force pulls the lightsaber past Ren, Ren should have just fucking caught it since it flew right in his face, that was a terrible fakeout imo when you look at star wars from a cinematic/critic point of view then you cant enjoy the movie at all because the movies do suck from that point of view. If I were to overanalyze every superhero or scifi movie the same way you guys are doing with starwars then I'd probably give up on watching these kind of movies because I'd notice so many mistakes/stupid things. Just the idea of someone wearing an outfit such as Batman and having a deep voice like his is ridiculous that's where I'd start from and that would probably keep me from watching that movie. But I don't disagree with most of your critique. I think they are very accurate on pretty much everything. I've said it before the movies: I dunno why I like SW. They are crap, the series is full of stupid holes, the trilogies are not well connected, Anakin's transformation was absolutely ridiculous, from a whiny Jedi to a 'younglings' killer in an blink of an eye. He never acted or looked like Vader, even for a second. But in the end I think the movies and the universe is very enjoyable and entertaining. Why? Because I chose not to pay attention to any of that when I'm watching a Star Wars movie. I just let it run and enjoy things I find cool. But to each his own I suppose. I don't believe I'm overanalyzing, I can't speak for other people. I didn't enter the theater with a chip on my shoulder or something. It's not nitpicking, these things all just jumped out at me. I just don't have the irrational hype of everyone else clouding my vision. I looked at it just like I would look at any other movie. I feel no obligation to enjoy it just because it cost $200 million, just because it has this director or that actor or has Star Wars in the name. Nothing would make me happier than to see a new great movie. SW7 just isn't one. There's lots of stuff in this movie I liked or thought had promise, but promising isn't good enough for me for a final cut. Good movies don't give you the chance to nitpick. Suspending your disbelief is like when Luke crash-lands in the one swamp on the entire planet of Dagobah where Yoda lives. Nobody thinks twice about that. Nobody goes "How did Vader get to Cloud City first?" That's good. Or when the Imperial probe lands on the one place on Hoth where the Rebel base is. But smuggling a CGI space kraken with eyes the size of doors tries my patience. It's not that I'm looking for shit that doesn't make sense. I can excuse some shit not making sense. Every movie will have things that don't add up, and things that are bad. Do you know even in the beginning of the Godfather, at the wedding, they're singing and dancing and shit, and Michael is talking to Kay, and he's telling her some things about the family, and then he says "Do you like your lasagna?" and it cuts to another scene, that line to me is one of the cheesiest possible ways to end that conversation, it just fucking beats us over the head, like we get it, they're Italians. But a good movie doesn't let you notice those things, or minimizes them. I'm not saying like "Another death star? 2/10" or something. It's the confluence of garbage parts. When they start adding up, it's hard to ignore. I personally loved The Dark Knight, I don't know why it keeps coming up, but it's a superhero movie, it's fantasy, it's not real. I went into it not expecting anything, same as SW7, and it turned out great. The Hobbit is fantasy too, but an elf archer surfing on falling CGI rocks doesn't seem to hold up. We all have a shit tolerance level. I'm personally not able to accept someone selling me shit with a brand name on it. This is why I can "nitpick" The Dark Knight Rises. It has enjoyable parts, but the parts that are shit are distracting, and just because it's the sequel to a great movie, that doesn't give it any free passes for me. I think what's going on is these two groups of people just have different standards for movies in general. Which is not at all to say that it's bad that some people can enjoy a wider range of movies. I just physically can't.

lol

fair enough

i think they left a lot open in the movie

Rey being so powerful was strange and farfetched to me as well but they do set up possible reasons in the movie it just isnt clear yet. I'm sure in the second one there will be some story: i'm guessing the mention that Luke was training a whole generation of new jedis has something to do with it and the fact that kylo ren rebelled against luke and was so powerful that caused luke to flip out and run away stopping all training. This makes Kylo Ren's comments all the more scary of when he meets Rey saying something along "so your the person i heard about over and over and over again".. hell he gets pissed in the beginning just because the ship was taken and a girl was in it not even knowing it was her although already probably sensing it.

A lot of strange coincidences are explained by the force guiding the way so poe-finn finn-rey-solo meetings seem quite reasonable.

Death star planet thing was meh. Liked the new actors and felt the old ones were outta rhythm.

Overall I liked it def better than 1-2-3 imo.

like btw Raidern, I did like the final scene, it's just then the helicopter shot killed the mood I thought. the most famous example I know of that shot is when they're on top of the skyscraper in hong kong in Infernal Affairs.

for some people, they get less fond of movies as time goes by. the prequel trilogy is a good example, even if people didn't think it was so great at the time, after a while people have sort of wised up to just how bad they were, like as the hype dies and the movies settle into our culture. so it's possible that for SW7, the movie will look a little better or I'll appreciate it more in the future. a lot depends on how it fits in this new trilogy. does anyone know anything about this guy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rian_Johnson

he's the SW8 director

On December 25 2015 21:48 Santafairy wrote: like btw Raidern, I did like the final scene, it's just then the helicopter shot killed the mood I thought. the most famous example I know of that shot is when they're on top of the skyscraper in hong kong in Infernal Affairs. for some people, they get less fond of movies as time goes by. the prequel trilogy is a good example, even if people didn't think it was so great at the time, after a while people have sort of wised up to just how bad they were, like as the hype dies and the movies settle into our culture. so it's possible that for SW7, the movie will look a little better or I'll appreciate it more in the future. a lot depends on how it fits in this new trilogy. does anyone know anything about this guy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rian_Johnson he's the SW8 director

Basically you just keep yapping your mouth and go back and forth based on what members on this forum say. Really weird. You seem to be trying really really hard to prove that your some kind of intellectual/Star Wars/movie expert. Zomg Santafairy so smart. (lol). To me, you just sound like an idiot.

On December 25 2015 22:50 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On December 25 2015 21:48 Santafairy wrote: like btw Raidern, I did like the final scene, it's just then the helicopter shot killed the mood I thought. the most famous example I know of that shot is when they're on top of the skyscraper in hong kong in Infernal Affairs. for some people, they get less fond of movies as time goes by. the prequel trilogy is a good example, even if people didn't think it was so great at the time, after a while people have sort of wised up to just how bad they were, like as the hype dies and the movies settle into our culture. so it's possible that for SW7, the movie will look a little better or I'll appreciate it more in the future. a lot depends on how it fits in this new trilogy. does anyone know anything about this guy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rian_Johnson he's the SW8 director Basically you just keep yapping your mouth and go back and forth based on what members on this forum say. Really weird. You seem to be trying really really hard to prove that your some kind of intellectual/Star Wars/movie expert. Zomg Santafairy so smart. (lol). To me, you just sound like an idiot.

Wow you're dumb.

Shut the fuck up. He made great points. If he's an idiot, what are you? The king of all idiots? I at least hope that you're very young because that could excuse that degree of immaturity.

I completely agreed with his post. Stuff has to make sense in some way. For some people, the bar is lower for how much shit they can put up with, for others it's higher. Usually I'm not very strict with these things, but the hype made my expectations pretty big so I just expected more.

On December 25 2015 23:16 Twisted wrote: Show nested quote + On December 25 2015 22:50 hiems wrote:   On December 25 2015 21:48 Santafairy wrote: like btw Raidern, I did like the final scene, it's just then the helicopter shot killed the mood I thought. the most famous example I know of that shot is when they're on top of the skyscraper in hong kong in Infernal Affairs. for some people, they get less fond of movies as time goes by. the prequel trilogy is a good example, even if people didn't think it was so great at the time, after a while people have sort of wised up to just how bad they were, like as the hype dies and the movies settle into our culture. so it's possible that for SW7, the movie will look a little better or I'll appreciate it more in the future. a lot depends on how it fits in this new trilogy. does anyone know anything about this guy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rian_Johnson he's the SW8 director Basically you just keep yapping your mouth and go back and forth based on what members on this forum say. Really weird. You seem to be trying really really hard to prove that your some kind of intellectual/Star Wars/movie expert. Zomg Santafairy so smart. (lol). To me, you just sound like an idiot. Wow you're dumb. Shut the fuck up. He made great points. If he's an idiot, what are you? The king of all idiots? I at least hope that you're very young because that could excuse that degree of immaturity. I completely agreed with his post. Stuff has to make sense in some way. For some people, the bar is lower for how much shit they can put up with, for others it's higher. Usually I'm not very strict with these things, but the hype made my expectations pretty big so I just expected more.

I didn't even expect much myself, but when the opening text basically said "forget all about the previous episodes, despite everything being good after episode 6 we're just going to hard reset and have an evil empire again without explaining in any way how it got there or give any backstory whatsoever" got me into critical mode.

On December 25 2015 22:50 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On December 25 2015 21:48 Santafairy wrote: like btw Raidern, I did like the final scene, it's just then the helicopter shot killed the mood I thought. the most famous example I know of that shot is when they're on top of the skyscraper in hong kong in Infernal Affairs. for some people, they get less fond of movies as time goes by. the prequel trilogy is a good example, even if people didn't think it was so great at the time, after a while people have sort of wised up to just how bad they were, like as the hype dies and the movies settle into our culture. so it's possible that for SW7, the movie will look a little better or I'll appreciate it more in the future. a lot depends on how it fits in this new trilogy. does anyone know anything about this guy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rian_Johnson he's the SW8 director Basically you just keep yapping your mouth and go back and forth based on what members on this forum say. Really weird.

conversation, yeah

You seem to be trying really really hard to prove that your some kind of intellectual/Star Wars/movie expert. Zomg Santafairy so smart. (lol). To me, you just sound like an idiot.

merry christmas

I enjoyed it a lot and it actually got me excited for more future SW movies. That being said, I think the movie couldve done with less shit repeated from a new hope. All of the things that were new, were good imo, it just seemed they were afraid of trying too many new things at once and resorted to "well it was good in the OT so lets do it again". Hopefully ep8 can progress further away from that and stand on its own more fully.

merry xmas every1

On December 26 2015 02:33 Santafairy wrote: Show nested quote + On December 25 2015 22:50 hiems wrote:   On December 25 2015 21:48 Santafairy wrote: like btw Raidern, I did like the final scene, it's just then the helicopter shot killed the mood I thought. the most famous example I know of that shot is when they're on top of the skyscraper in hong kong in Infernal Affairs. for some people, they get less fond of movies as time goes by. the prequel trilogy is a good example, even if people didn't think it was so great at the time, after a while people have sort of wised up to just how bad they were, like as the hype dies and the movies settle into our culture. so it's possible that for SW7, the movie will look a little better or I'll appreciate it more in the future. a lot depends on how it fits in this new trilogy. does anyone know anything about this guy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rian_Johnson he's the SW8 director Basically you just keep yapping your mouth and go back and forth based on what members on this forum say. Really weird. conversation, yeah   You seem to be trying really really hard to prove that your some kind of intellectual/Star Wars/movie expert. Zomg Santafairy so smart. (lol). To me, you just sound like an idiot. merry christmas

Haha right right. And apparantly since im the asshole in this thread bah humbug.

On December 25 2015 21:48 Santafairy wrote: does anyone know anything about this guy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rian_Johnson he's the SW8 director

Looks like he's the director of Looper and Brick which were both pretty good movies. They were both a little on the darker side in both content and style but in a good way. So there's that to look forward to but on the other hand maybe after recycling the plot of episode IV they're just planning on recycling the plot of episode V.

Of course I'll be watching either way.

Good nerdrant gave me alot of ahaaas and appriciation for details for the 2nd time i watched it

just watched it. i went in not expecting much, and i came out tilted as fuck. that was terrible. 1-3 are far better. what a piece of shit


best part was seeing admiral ackbar

Didnt like how the token black guy had to be a complete coward throughout 90% of the film.

The movie was A New Hope 2.0. Maybe that's the new trend in Hollywood, reboot that's not a reboot. Watch Creed. Same shit.

On December 30 2015 05:49 handbanana21 wrote: Didnt like how the token black guy had to be a complete coward throughout 90% of the film.

he really is a token

basically he exists because Rey needs another human character to meet up with at the beginning, because if Poe and Rey met right after Poe crashed the TIE fighter, then he would have found BB8 within 5 minutes of telling him to basically roll as far away as he could, and that would be weird

you might say santafairy, that's not true, the movie also needs a stormtrooper to defect because otherwise it wouldn't make sense for Poe to escape the custody of the First Order by himself without help, my answer is Poe should never have been captured by the First Order since he escapes within 5 minutes anyways. it's meaningless as shit, he SHOULD have lifted off his rebel ship in the beginning, the stormtroopers should have shot at it and damaged it, but not damaged it enough from taking off, instead he flies for a little bit but crashes back on the planet, then meets Rey when she fights off some other people trying to scavenge his ship and droid or whatever. max von sydow and all the faceless villagers still get killed as normal, but then the next day the First Order shows up attacking Rey's shit and then she and Poe escape in the Falcon, this time him being the pilot and her being the gunner because as much as we like her, she became a fucking starpilot in 30 seconds after working at a junkyard, whereas Poe's actual character is being a pilot

On December 30 2015 05:18 FrinkX wrote: just watched it. i went in not expecting much, and i came out tilted as fuck. that was terrible. 1-3 are far better. what a piece of shit best part was seeing admiral ackbar

how were 1-3 far better though?

^ im sure frink meant 4-6 or just trolling.

The movie was damn good imo. Sure they dropped the ball on little stuff like (how does rey and finn weild the lightsaber like they done it before and fight kylo). Kylo looked very promising villain in the beginning then he got soft towards the end. Overall it was very entertaining and can't wait for 8.

Because this one was a horrid pos

dont rly wanna get into it

I guess i will be fine with it if the next one is really good, then it'd be be comparable to #4

On December 30 2015 21:01 flounder44 wrote: ^ im sure frink meant 4-6 or just trolling. The movie was damn good imo. Sure they dropped the ball on little stuff like (how does rey and finn weild the lightsaber like they done it before and fight kylo). Kylo looked very promising villain in the beginning then he got soft towards the end. Overall it was very entertaining and can't wait for 8.

Obv 4-6 are the nuts. I did mean 1-3 are far better than this one. I cant believe any of u enjoyed it in the least. I really dont want to argue this tho, i cant believe how many ppl liked it / said it ok / said its better than 1-3

Afk

On December 26 2015 16:44 NMcNasty wrote: Show nested quote + On December 25 2015 21:48 Santafairy wrote: does anyone know anything about this guy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rian_Johnson he's the SW8 director Looks like he's the director of Looper and Brick which were both pretty good movies. They were both a little on the darker side in both content and style but in a good way. So there's that to look forward to but on the other hand maybe after recycling the plot of episode IV they're just planning on recycling the plot of episode V. Of course I'll be watching either way.

I thought Brick was an awesome movie because the direction/script were so original despite attempting to be a modern take on old fashioned noir films. Personally I'm really excited to see what he does with Star Wars. Not sure if that direction style will mesh well with "family" movies though.

On December 30 2015 05:18 FrinkX wrote: just watched it. i went in not expecting much, and i came out tilted as fuck. that was terrible. 1-3 are far better. what a piece of shit best part was seeing admiral ackbar

Prequels better ?? Like... Jar Jar Binks etc is better ? Hehe no way

Yeah, I also thought 1-3 were better. At least, storytelling wise they made way more sense. This new movie was a complete clusterfuck of fail all over the place.

thought it was entertaining but the more i think about it the retarded the story seems

just waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many coincidences

also rey and finn using the light saber that competently was ridiculous.

i'd give it a decent 7/10

1-3 were abysmal.

happy new year everyone. good thing ep7 was 2015 and we can forget about it now

I liked the one with Darth Maul in it, probably because I was still a kid when it came out. I tried watching the StarWars movies after that one and my interest was not the same and just could not wait for the movie to finish.

I watched the latest one last week and just could not focus, have no idea wtf was happening.

Yeah I loved JarJar! (was 11 when it came out)

jedi sword fight scenes are laughable at best. if the japanese were given spaceships and light sabers during that time they mightve conquered the universe

you cant say with a straight face that the prequels are better... look at the phantom menace, it's filled with crap useless scenes and apparently it was a movie made to sell video games. theres the damn long race scene.. the war between jar jar people and droids is ridiculous, jar jar destroyed a lot of war machinery by being fucking clumsy. a 10 year old destroyed a space station by randomly clicking buttons and yelling "oooooaaaaaa". also the sheer amoutn of unnecessary digital effect makes it almost impossible to watch.

lol so many self proclaimed movie critics here... this movie was great. ;D

As always JJ abrams delivers and as the finishing credits rolled I smiled a little. Felt like I finally watched a starwars film after so so long.

Sure it was like a remastered version of a new hope but this movie as seen from a standalone perspective is really really good. You don't have to watch 6 movies and remember everything to enjoy this movie. But they also threw in references for people that would actually appreciate it..

A welcome and much needed reboot for the star wars franchise. WP Abrams.

On December 31 2015 13:18 Nazgul wrote: 1-3 were abysmal.

also. this.

Luke Skywalker looks like he has been on that island for 10 years doing nothing but drinking malt liquor and can't even remember his own name anymore, or what a jedi is for that matter : )

I don't understand how anyone who has seen episodes 4-6 can like this movie. It just tried to leech everything good from them, and then everything new that was added wasn't interesting at all. I admit, the first 30 minutes were fun, but after that I just kinda got bored.

Everyone hates on 1-3, but episode 3 is much better than episode 7 based on emperor Palpatine's performance alone. It was dark, Anakin freaking killed a bunch of kids in jedi training on his way to becoming Vader. Episode 7 was so fast paced it wasn't even a story, it was just an excuse for action... if you like that kind of movie than I don't know what to say, I guess you will love most movies these days, I think they are superficial and boring as fuck.

How the fuck do people like BB8? He is way worse than R2D2. R2D2 is way funnier, he had his gimmicky shock laser that he would try to use. If you have any brains you can see BB8 is just made that way so that they can sell action figures of him to kids. I don't even know how he is a talking point, he is nothing special since so many AI/Droids in movies in the last 30 years.

Also, there is a big push in movies for feminism and PC agenda. It is OK for women to be stars. It is OK for people of any race to be stars obviously. But this one was just so transparent. How is any guy not annoyed by Rey's instant level 100 skills? Even women thought her character was stupid. Whats the point in making a movie where the dark side character is shown to be weak and incompetent from the start? I don't care if Rey is Luke's son and did training for a few years before and then got mind wiped. She could speak any language, fly and fix the Millenium Falcon better than Han Solo who had been using it for 40 years, use mind control, and defeat a former Skywalker apprentice and now Sith. The combination of her and Fin was as flat as it could get. The freaking light saber duels were so cut up I couldn't even tell what was happening. Every time somebody swung it was like they switched cameras. It was horrible.

The PC agenda is to get new blood in to watch the movie and make more money. More women + races = more money. Adding nothing to plot, and possibly hurting it. Annoying shit, I just like it when diversity happens naturally and it isn't force fed with an agenda.

Even though episode 1-2 sucked, I still have so much more respect for them because they were trying to be new. This was just hollywood money grabbing. I don't know, this movie made me feel old. Just having characters show up from old movies and saying "hey there that person is" and then having static transparent characters and pointless action was just weird.

If you go to any major college campus and have a contest for writing the plot for Star Wars 7, it would beat this easy. Sorry for the rant, but why give a movie a pass just because it is from the Star Wars franchise? Just fwiw, I thought movies like Ender's Game and Chronicles of Riddick are way more fun to watch. They have action, but also breaks where you can see what characters are really like.

I think this movie also broke star wars rules like never letting a non-jedi wield a light saber. I'm kind of smiling right now, because I am not too serious, I just think the movie was soooo bad and a total for profit 1000% in a way that felt slimy as fuck. I am just so confused how other people actually like the movie... I guess thats what made me rate this movie from like a 6/10 to a 5/10, because of my dislike for how much other people like it : )

Maybe it is also because I am starting to like weird Jake Gyllenhaal movies and more Indie films... I would say my tastes have changed too much... but I watched episodes 4 and 5 just a few weeks ago and still liked them : /