On November 06 2013 23:50 GoTuNk wrote:
sick documentary, someone bump this with livestream of games (how long does it last? how many games? 100% fish here)
12 matches, very short compared to other championships
If I want to enjoy this live and have a few hours free, any chess 101 I should checks to get the basics?
I am online fish but have some live experience (which I assume is the same as having poker live experience lol) in that I know rules and can beat most other people who know the rules (I usually think 2-3 moves ahead at each?)
I suggest time traveling back a few years and putting in as much work as you did with BW / poker / weightlifting. Then you might start to grasp the nuances. Otherwise, just sit back and enjoy - it's like BW or SC2, you don't have to be a pro to know what's going on. Some stuff will inevitably fly over your head, but the commentators will be there (I guess?) to help you out with that.
lol. Made me notice the lack of work I've put on poker
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Liquid`Drone Norway. Nov 07 2013 07:11. Posts 3093
carlsen is so brilliant and talented. I remember reading years ago that he was playing like 12 different matches against 12 different upcoming norwegian talents, at the same time, without being allowed to see any of the chess boards, and won all of them.
On November 07 2013 06:11 Liquid`Drone wrote:
carlsen is so brilliant and talented. I remember reading years ago that he was playing like 12 different matches against 12 different upcoming norwegian talents, at the same time, without being allowed to see any of the chess boards, and won all of them.
On November 07 2013 06:11 Liquid`Drone wrote:
carlsen is so brilliant and talented. I remember reading years ago that he was playing like 12 different matches against 12 different upcoming norwegian talents, at the same time, without being allowed to see any of the chess boards, and won all of them.
Same thing in the documentary, except for that it's against 10-12 different business men.
Milkman lol i didnt spend half a thousand on a phone so i could play it cool and be all stealth
On November 06 2013 23:09 Highcard wrote:
isn't carlsen 3-6-20 vs this dude, how could you say 80% to win
Anand has been top 5 in the world for roughly 20 years now. Carlsen is barely over 20 years old. A bunch of their matches took place when carlsen was a few years younger and not near his peak.
And 100 rating points is a fucking lot. I believe in any given game ignoring white or black advantage/disadvantage carlsen has .63 equity. So if they draw 60% then carlsen wins 33%, draw 60%, anand wins 7%. Its really hard to overcome that disadvantage in a 12 game series. Carlsen just wins a lot. Some guys on 2p2 programmed simulations on those numbers and carlsen won >90%.
There are a couple shortfalls in the numbers though. For one when anand is white he will probably gain 50ish rating points. Maybe more. While carlsen says fuck theory and plays off beat lines, anand is one of the best preparers in the game. That is not to say he only memorizes a bunch of book lines, but he and his team have come up with innovative lines that gave him really big impressive wins (check out his match va aronian from tata steel this year). So if anand won an early game with a new line then carlsen might drop to 65-70%.
And anand has home court advantage. India is a big advantage. Carlsen could get sick and has to adjust to a very different time zone and country
Overall i think this mitigates carlsens chances but still think he wins the vast majority. Just the superior player by a wide margin
NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut
And re: blindfold matches. Any international master can probably beat 3 players of 1700 strength at the same time. There is a GM named timur gareev who did 64 games at once. 10-12 is insane for us to think about, but id be shocked if 8 versions of me would stand a chance vs any blindfolded 2700 simultaneously.
NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut
Jerry will be streaming all of it (and uploading the videos since game 1 begins saturday at 4:30 AM, EST). I watched the candidates tournament finals on his stream earlier this year and it was really worth it, the guy is funny and insightful.
Even I can do multiple blindfolded games (albeit not that much obviously, most I did was 3, and I was playing the same color in all of them - that makes it significantly easier, and ofc I'm playing way below my true ability in these), and I'm barely over 2100 now. One is not that hard tbh, more than one can be a bitch (especially with a rule I had to play with, which is you lose if you try to make a move that's impossible due to misremembering the board). I had to practice this as a kid because of my trainer. Not sure if I could still do it, I only play chess for fun nowadays (one game every few weeks in my club that I was a part of since the beginning of my chess 'career', early childhood that is.)
Naib, you started off your paragraph with such vigor, while ending in a fizzle. Would you say your chess career is similar to a candle?
Feeling the warmth of chess enlightenment caressing your virgin wax, melting the foreskin of naivety. Your wick now exposed, knowledge engulfing you, bringing you to your first spark of chess eureka...your life of chess is now shining bright, filling the room with energy...to the present, those moments have passed like that of headlights from a car. The life of chess that you lived is now but a puddle of wax. The last of the hydrocarbons released from your spent wick are floating in the room of your chess career, drifting away with the memories from the collective unconscious.
I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time
On November 06 2013 23:09 Highcard wrote:
isn't carlsen 3-6-20 vs this dude, how could you say 80% to win
Anand has been top 5 in the world for roughly 20 years now. Carlsen is barely over 20 years old. A bunch of their matches took place when carlsen was a few years younger and not near his peak.
And 100 rating points is a fucking lot. I believe in any given game ignoring white or black advantage/disadvantage carlsen has .63 equity. So if they draw 60% then carlsen wins 33%, draw 60%, anand wins 7%. Its really hard to overcome that disadvantage in a 12 game series. Carlsen just wins a lot. Some guys on 2p2 programmed simulations on those numbers and carlsen won >90%.
There are a couple shortfalls in the numbers though. For one when anand is white he will probably gain 50ish rating points. Maybe more. While carlsen says fuck theory and plays off beat lines, anand is one of the best preparers in the game. That is not to say he only memorizes a bunch of book lines, but he and his team have come up with innovative lines that gave him really big impressive wins (check out his match va aronian from tata steel this year). So if anand won an early game with a new line then carlsen might drop to 65-70%.
And anand has home court advantage. India is a big advantage. Carlsen could get sick and has to adjust to a very different time zone and country
Overall i think this mitigates carlsens chances but still think he wins the vast majority. Just the superior player by a wide margin
so are you betting on this?
Dont remember who it was that talked about the even line for Carlsen but I cant find better odds than 3:1
On November 07 2013 23:06 Highcard wrote:
Naib, you started off your paragraph with such vigor, while ending in a fizzle. Would you say your chess career is similar to a candle?
Feeling the warmth of chess enlightenment caressing your virgin wax, melting the foreskin of naivety. Your wick now exposed, knowledge engulfing you, bringing you to your first spark of eureka...your life of chess is now shining bright, filling the room with potential...to the present, those moments have passed like that of headlights from a car. The life of chess that you lived is now but a puddle of wax. The last of the hydrocarbons released from your spent wick are floating in the room of your chess career, drifting away with the memories from the collective unconscious.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
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YoMeR United States. Nov 08 2013 15:33. Posts 12435
^ holy shit that vid is 4 hrs+ long. complete with long speeches, anthems, dance routines, huge Indian concertos, and video presentations O_o
On November 07 2013 14:57 Naib wrote:
Even I can do multiple blindfolded games (albeit not that much obviously, most I did was 3, and I was playing the same color in all of them - that makes it significantly easier, and ofc I'm playing way below my true ability in these), and I'm barely over 2100 now. One is not that hard tbh, more than one can be a bitch (especially with a rule I had to play with, which is you lose if you try to make a move that's impossible due to misremembering the board). I had to practice this as a kid because of my trainer. Not sure if I could still do it, I only play chess for fun nowadays (one game every few weeks in my club that I was a part of since the beginning of my chess 'career', early childhood that is.)
sicklol.. why did u stop?
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hiems United States. Nov 08 2013 19:21. Posts 2979
On November 07 2013 10:02 Daut wrote:
And re: blindfold matches. Any international master can probably beat 3 players of 1700 strength at the same time. There is a GM named timur gareev who did 64 games at once. 10-12 is insane for us to think about, but id be shocked if 8 versions of me would stand a chance vs any blindfolded 2700 simultaneously.
What's your rating Daut?
I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img]
United States. Nov 07 2013 10:49. Posts 8955
