2013 Chess World Championship - Page 5

If a player fails to make 40 moves within their alloted two hours they lose right?

On November 12 2013 05:38 Mariuslol wrote: Show nested quote + On November 10 2013 10:03 VanDerMeyde wrote: How much is it to the winner They said around 9 million kroner to 1st place on Nrk.

sickness

i was watching an interview after one of the matches and magnus said his black game has been better than his white game.... how are they any different? im clearly missing something

Initiative vs counteroffensive
basically saying his actions aren't as good as his reactions

On November 13 2013 03:48 traxamillion wrote: If a player fails to make 40 moves within their alloted two hours they lose right?

Yes.

On November 13 2013 06:10 SmokingDough wrote: i was watching an interview after one of the matches and magnus said his black game has been better than his white game.... how are they any different? im clearly missing something

White and black don't play for the same goal and thus the play is often different.

As black, you usually are happy with a draw and this is mostly what you aim for. On the other hand, as white you need to push the engine to win and prevent black from turtling.

In game 1, Carlsen failed as white (game drawn after like an hour) while he achieved an easy draw as black in game 2.

Game is totally epic atm. Caster has been screaming at almost move since move 30 and if black was anybody but Carlsen, that game would've been drawn an hour ago. Just because it's him we just don't know it's crazy.

Every time you think simplification is going to happen next he refuses to exchange pieces and he makes the position more tactical and complicated... They have been at it for 4.5 hours now this must be torture for Anand to be in such a position with white.

Btw 18 000 viewers for chessnetwork right now, he's got to be happy, reminds me of day9 celebrating the first time he had 500 viewers

Wake up and they are still playing. Did the live broadcast end?

I never thought chess would actually get 20k viewers in twitch, sick.

Game 4 has been really interesting.

Game 4 is crazy and not finished yet, after 56 moves and almost 6 hours.

If ICC relay is correct, Anand has only 2 minutes to make 3 moves now and the position is critical, this is crazy jesus.

Hands have been shaken! Too bad Carlsen couldn't win as black, awesome show anyway.

Why would carlsen offer a draw with a king 2 rooks and 3 pawns versus anand's king 2 rooks 1 pawn?

Is that not such a big advantage and still just basically a draw position?

In real chess can you march your pawn down to the other side and get a queen or is that just some home game rule?

He offered draw when it was a draw position rook + pawn vs rook and it's a dead draw

Yes you just march down your pawn and promote to whatever piece you want

Did carlsen screw up at some point then in the last few moves and lose his third pawn? At one point in the last 8 moves it was definitely 3 pawns to 1 then all of a sudden they started playing super fast making instant moves and trades down to that draw position and GGd

So that's why I ask if you can still win with 3 pawns to 1 and each side 2 rooks also

yea but that position was like inevitable from there
it were all (not literaly) forced moves that lead to the draw

it wasn't 3 pawns vs 1 pawn. yes, there were technically 3 pawns on the board for black but one of them was doomed to be captured so you can't count that one

nice video by chessexplained:



sounds like carlsen had a very cool line around move 36 with sacrficing the exchange (rook for minor piece) and simplifying to an endgame with lots of pawns but didnt take it. but overall if you are going to follow this and arent a master, you need to watch a live stream or a recap video like this

On November 13 2013 09:27 traxamillion wrote: Why would carlsen offer a draw with a king 2 rooks and 3 pawns versus anand's king 2 rooks 1 pawn?

The simplifying endgame led to rook+king vs rook+pawn+king which is draw if the opponents king can get behind the pawn and have his rook protect from the side.

Interestingly, game 5 ended up again with rook + 2 pawns vs rook + 1 pawn, but this time Carlsen had rook pawns instead of connected pawns and this difference meant win instead of draw GG.

game 5 was awesome

it's so cool, norway's biggest tv channel is showing the matches live, in their entirety, with some of norway's second finest chess players commentating and analyzing possible future moves. It's surprisingly entertaining - and I normally don't even like playing chess cuz it's too slow. but somehow watching it was thoroughly enjoyable.