traxamillion United States. Nov 10 2013 05:42. Posts 10468
or is it that the optimal move at that point just happened to be whatever moves led to the threefold draw and neither player is willing to deviate from optimal strategy in order to prevent the draw? that would make the most sense i guess
It's like a balanced position and whoever takes the first step to try to penetrate the opposition's defences, will likely get behind. So it's a stalemate.
Hmm, I also wish I understood it more, seem awesome. And crazy prize money!!
Saw on several channels today on Norwegian televion, all kinds of documetaries, different than the one linked here. Following his dad, and he usually prepare meals and help in any way he can. One day a week is for modelling, photoshoot and interviews all day, crazy stuff.
He also got on the list for Time magazine 100 most influential people on earth.
Charlie Rose seems so aggressive, almost dangerous with his language. He got some good interesting statements out of Magnus as the video reached the last 5th part.
On November 10 2013 04:38 traxamillion wrote:
holy shit that was boring and anticlimactic. So basically at any point they can both decide to just each move the same piece back and forth three times and boom draw. SiCK
Anticlimactic maybe but not boring. They played the whole game under 1h15 which is like close to speed of light Also it was oddly refreshing to see the now rare caro-kann!
Let me humbly explain why I liked the middle game here. Up to move 15, Carlsen seemed on the defensive since a f5 advance by white sounded like trouble and thus he could never prepare the counter-play c5. After this last 15.Ne4 move from white, their g pawn is now free to advance and after say 16.g4, white pawns would be marching on and I was under the impression that all black were trying to do was not get their king-side smashed open. Tables turned when Carlsen found that 17... Qd5 would force a queen exchange. (Black's queen is forking white's queen and the a2 pawn)
I'm just an average joe, but during the game I thought that not exchanging with 18.Qg4 on the next move would bring a strong position for Anand by threatening the h6 pawn (Bxh6) as well as an attack on black's king after Rh3 and Rh2. I was wrong, and the exchange was an exciting surprise to me. Now Carlsen was playing on his terms.
After the queen exchange, even though it started to smell drawish, Carlsen at last looked in good shape being on the right side of a "good vs bad bishop" endgame.
Pawn structure on the queen side is screaming bad bishop for white with all those pawns on dark squares. Anand knew his initiative had dried up and had to agree to a draw with the white pieces.
Trax I had the same questions after watching the first game. My head exploded when the match was like 1.5 hours long, 16 plays happened and then it just drew out with literally nothing happening.
I thought this was going to go much faster, but I read that avg games could go 4-7hours, which makes sense now why it is spaced out, but damn is this hard to enjoy without any chess knowledge.
I think I like most from this is the sick hustle of a month long grudge match. Pretty epic hu between master minds. Just a very slow, drawn out, and hard to appreciate grudge match for the lay man
I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time
On November 12 2013 07:36 kingpowa wrote:
ok stupid question. The clocks were approaching 0, when one hour has been added to both. What does it correspond to ?
They have 2 hours for first 40 moves, then an additionnal hour for the next 20 moves.
You may want to follow a stream with commentary, they would have told you!
anand coming off quite risk-averse/complication-averse in g3. i honestly think stamina and energy conservation is a motivating factor for him. doubt he wanted to get drawn into an uncertain position (which could be quite taxing) at this juncture, especially with a fresh white start waiting right around the corner.
On November 12 2013 07:36 kingpowa wrote:
ok stupid question. The clocks were approaching 0, when one hour has been added to both. What does it correspond to ?
They have 2 hours for first 40 moves, then an additionnal hour for the next 20 moves.
You may want to follow a stream with commentary, they would have told you!
I actually did, and I thought it was quite interesting, but I could not focus on it all the time (being at work). And to be honest, I don't think that I am capable enough and interested enough to follow it non stop for such a long game.
Thanks for the explanation.
On November 12 2013 07:36 kingpowa wrote:
ok stupid question. The clocks were approaching 0, when one hour has been added to both. What does it correspond to ?
They have 2 hours for first 40 moves, then an additionnal hour for the next 20 moves.
You may want to follow a stream with commentary, they would have told you!
I actually did, and I thought it was quite interesting, but I could not focus on it all the time (being at work). And to be honest, I don't think that I am capable enough and interested enough to follow it non stop for such a long game.
Thanks for the explanation.
United Kingdom. Nov 10 2013 09:47. Posts 8665
