(Videos) Change your ways

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in before memes

edit: and LP drug scandal

http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/1042080/prank_ideas!.html

love how u start the vid in the dark and its bright at the end

other than that, such bullshit attention whoring

waiting for d_smart_s to gather around so we can have The Perfect Storm

Sounds like you'll enjoy http://truthism.com/ enjoy!

i love you tutz

as someone who has in the past spent a lot of time going through this stuff but nowadays can only feel pity, i can say that this is a very normal thing for a weak mind to get attached to. the pattern i see is that whenever i would start thinking about the future and life with this perspective, it corresponded that i would be in stagnation as a human being, not producing anything of value and, whats worse, would refrain myself from making long term goals (because of the 'bleak future') and would have this vicious cycle where i would be even less productive.

man, the level here is that you think you are 'awaken' but in reality this is just a 'dooms day prophet' mechanism blown out of proportion because of the internet. i suggest you do some research to conclude that since the beginning of time there have been people, to their advantage (both personal and professional), who say exactly the same things as these videos do regardless of their era. of course we are all going to die, of course many will go through real-life nightmares while at it, but this perception of time is mostly your choice.. lets say you unbiasedly go through life with a filter from now on, and start to compare Predictions in one side and Reality in the other.. id say thats the most 'awaken' you can be: as much as you want it not to be like this, deep in the end the future is always a mystery, unless you stagnate yourself and create this bubble where everything that happens was already meant to be because you dont even want anything to change so as not to get this future hell going but in the end you ironically cause it upon yourself because you are afraid

/rant

were you on mdma ?

On May 31 2012 08:58 SugoGosu wrote: Sounds like you'll enjoy http://truthism.com/ enjoy!

omg

All this have few to do with doomsday prophecy. Im not gonnawaste time answer someone that dont even know what Im talking about. If someone here actualy goes thru all this information and want to engage any kind of discusion, hit me up on skype. Im not down to discusion where there any bashing or sense of superiority going on. And again, if you are gonna watch this, I recommend watching in order.

On May 31 2012 08:58 SugoGosu wrote: Sounds like you'll enjoy http://truthism.com/ enjoy!

I have been through this entire website. It is good, thank you for bringing it up.

The first 3 movies have a combined runtime of 9 hours. how do u expect anyone with any semblance of a life to actually watch all that. Post text sources or here's an idea; write what you think are the 5 most important facts that back up your conspiracy with a source. Things like "rich people lobby governments" are not counting since those are common sense. I want 5 facts that that are important and you think are hidden or whatever from the general public and why you think they back up ur theory. I am extremely confident I can dismantle them easily.

I would have to write a huge book to give good reasoning to what Im talking about here. Anything I say here thats is not backed with a huge amount of data can be easily dismantled. If you want the knowledge, go ahead, take your time and watch it. Any kind of supercial knowlege about this can be dismantled with simple questions. It is when you go deep into all this that you can consider new posibilities. Call me crazy and keep the this is bullshit mentaly or if you are curious enough, join me, or not.

On May 31 2012 10:33 tutz wrote: I would have to write a huge book to give good reasoning to what Im talking about here. Anything I say here thats is not backed with a huge amount of data can be easily dismantled. If you want the knowledge, go ahead, take your time and watch it. Any kind of supercial knowlege about this can be dismantled with simple questions. It is when you go deep into all this that you can consider new posibilities. Call me crazy and keep the this is bullshit mentaly or if you are curious enough, join me, or not.

In other words "No I will not provide you with facts because I know they won't stand up to scrutiny, but, I believe them anyway."
Edit: Seriously that bolded line doesn't bother you at all?

The problem with conspiracy theories is that they expand to be very huge. (Scientific consensus on conspiracy theories)

E.g. US government is ruled by conspiracy. But other governments don't speak about the conspiracy. So other governments must be also in the conspiracy. Ok, but what about journalists, aren't they supposed to look for facts and stuff. Ok, so media companies are within conspiracy and most of the journalists are oblivious or also within conspiracy. But how is it that you know the truth and nobody else believes you. So it must be others are mostly brainwashed or within conspiracy.

See, conspiracy theories just expand to be very global. And the bigger it gets, the less plausible it is.


Some conspiracies, e.g. for assassination are obv. real and bad.

I'm gonna start researching the occult and make my self a jupiter talisman not even kidding.

That is not what I said. If I make a point and back it with few data, you will make a logical obvious questions to dismantle my point. Any kinda of what I consider good amount of evidence can only be know by going thought a huge amount of data. The videos I posted above will give you that minimum amount of data. Im not down to start an endless discusion with bashing and sense of superiority from any parts, its a waste of time. Dont twist my words. Starting a discusion here is like going to a church with a bunch of christians there and trying to convince them their god aint real, its pointless. The data is here, its your choice to look it up or not. Pretty sure some people are gonna look small parts of these videos and come here to make fun of me, call me stupid, cause that makes them feel awesome and so they go on to their sad life. Im glad a few will choose a different path, those are the ones Im looking for.

Very few have courage to speak out, cause they are afraid to be judged as crazy by the commom sense of the people that live around them. Ppl already started sending me pm saying they are in the same boat or want to know more, but they dont post here cause they dont want to be judged by the public. I dont care what you think, Im what I am.

On May 31 2012 11:32 tutz wrote: That is not what I said. If I make a point and back it with few data, you will make a logical obvious questions to dismantle my point. Any kinda of what I consider good amount of evidence can only be know by going thought a huge amount of data. The videos I posted above will give you that minimum amount of data. Im not down to start an endless discusion with bashing and sense of superiority from any parts, its a waste of time. Dont twist my words. Starting a discusion here is like going to a church with a bunch of christians there and trying to convince them their god aint real, its pointless. The data is here, its your choice to look it up or not. Pretty sure some people are gonna look small parts of these videos and come here to make fun of me, call me stupid, cause that makes them feel awesome and so they go on to their sad life. Im glad a few will choose a different path, those are the ones Im looking for.

PhD students in their 4th year have gone through a huge amount of data in their field. You have spent a month watching YouTube videos and reading corresponding websites. The fact you acknowledge someone could poke holes in your argument and therefore you won't.present it is also absurd. You just don't want your ideas logically challenged by things like competing evidence, facts, or the scientific method. I can only hope your are joking when you say truthism.org is a good website.
People say they don't post here because they don't want to be judged by the public? It's a few.hundred people on a poker forum, who the fuck cares.what the others think.

btw I do appreciate u at least putting this in a blog entry where it belongs and.not general forum

Hey palak, I totally understand you and where your opnions come from. I dont think I'm smarter than anyone here. Lets just say I came across all this information, it changed the way I think about a lot of things and it made me want to share it in my own blog. So you can choose to look it up or not, that is totally up to you. I would totally aprecciate if a lot of you guys went through what I posted for sure, but thats your personal decision. The truthism.org is a good website, but there is not enough data there, it just makes most people laugh at mock about all that, cause it is too crazy to be true, I know it. I dont expect a few written pages to change the way you look the world around you.

If information you come across alters your perception of reality you should be able to condense sections of it into key facts which you can list with ease. Telling people to go look up the basic info on their own or watch YouTube vids is equivalent to a Christian going "I am Christian cuz of the bible. U want info? Well here read the bible b/c I won't tell you bout it." or a young earth creationist saying "The world is 6000 years old, I know you can prove that false with logic. But that's.only.because you don't have the full information." If logic rips apart a philosophy's initial statement the rest of it falls apart. It's advocates then just choose irrational faith and ignorance. The whole scientific philosophy isn't to prove hypothesis A it is to disprove all hypothesis except hypothesis A.

Yep, both comparison are correct. The conclusion of that is: in case 1: you go through the bible info and concludes its a retarded book, so you dont become a christian. In case 2: you ask the person for the full information, they give you, you go through it and concludes the earth is not 6000 years old. In both cases you should go through the data to come you a full conclusion on the matter, what havent happened here.

Ok, let's assume that a lot or maybe even all of this is true. Even then it wouldn't make sense for this stuff to be on TV/internet/whatever because if I'd be some kind of extra terrestrial overlord ruling mankind I'd kill the bitch who supposedly found it all out before he could spread the word. Nobody is going to miss a single human being and that way the risk of being exposed is eliminated. I didn't go through 20 hours of Youtube because quite frankly, I have better things to do. But reading a bit on that website which you called good and nothing seems to make sense. All they say is that we are oblivious to the truth and preach that they know the actual truth, yet they don't bring any arguments forward that actually backs their reasoning. Except for the pictures that come from The History Channel. Let's not forget though that according to them the media is in on the conspiracy and are not to be believed. Yet they use it to bring extremely weak arguments to their own case.

This entire story reeks of the following line of argumentation: I'm right because I'm right. That's not any sensical form of argumentation, it's 12 year olds do when they have heated arguments. Seriously, I'm trying to keep an open mind here and I'm not even rejecting the idea of us being ruled by outer space aliens. I just won't take it for granted without solid proof. That's the reason I don't believe in God and do believe in science because it's makes logical sense to me thinking about it. If that makes me a retarded human being then so be it.

On May 31 2012 13:49 Kilay wrote: Ok, let's assume that a lot or maybe even all of this is true. Even then it wouldn't make sense for this stuff to be on TV/internet/whatever because if I'd be some kind of extra terrestrial overlord ruling mankind I'd kill the bitch who supposedly found it all out before he could spread the word. Nobody is going to miss a single human being and that way the risk of being exposed is eliminated. I didn't go through 20 hours of Youtube because quite frankly, I have better things to do. But reading a bit on that website which you called good and nothing seems to make sense. All they say is that we are oblivious to the truth and preach that they know the actual truth, yet they don't bring any arguments forward that actually backs their reasoning. Except for the pictures that come from The History Channel. Let's not forget though that according to them the media is in on the conspiracy and are not to be believed. Yet they use it to bring extremely weak arguments to their own case. This entire story reeks of the following line of argumentation: I'm right because I'm right. That's not any sensical form of argumentation, it's 12 year olds do when they have heated arguments. Seriously, I'm trying to keep an open mind here and I'm not even rejecting the idea of us being ruled by outer space aliens. I just won't take it for granted without solid proof. That's the reason I don't believe in God and do believe in science because it's makes logical sense to me thinking about it. If that makes me a retarded human being then so be it.

Really liked your post! Hopefully you get more curious about all this and go after more and more info. PM if you wanna discuss about it with me. Cheers

Case 1 wouldn't be just reading the bible. It would be reading the bible plus religious writings of the Christian faith like Thomas Aquinas, papel doctrines, etc. Possibly decades of reading.

Case 2 would require getting a PhD in geology or biology or chemistry or all 3. It would again be at least a decade of devoted study.

No matter how much study you put in people will still say "oh you don't have all the data." Because you never will and they will never be convinced that you have studied enough since you disagree with them.

In this case you dont need a PhD. Just look the videos, if in the end of all of it you are not at least curious to know more about it, just call me retard and move on. I wont ask you to look up for more info.

4 of your vids I could open are from Icke who thinks Humans were made by reptoid aliens, 1 was zeitgest, the other (last one) is from a source which claims there was a satanic ritual performed during the halftime show of the superbowl. Rest I can't open right now. It boggles me you can take a man seriously who says aliens came to earth looking for monoatomic gold consumption of which allows for them to shapeshift.

On May 31 2012 13:49 tutz wrote: Yep, both comparison are correct. The conclusion of that is: in case 1: you go through the bible info and concludes its a retarded book, so you dont become a christian. In case 2: you ask the person for the full information, they give you, you go through it and concludes the earth is not 6000 years old. In both cases you should go through the data to come you a full conclusion on the matter, what havent happened here.

More like in case 1 you pick up the bible and put it back down because you don't need to read it to know it's bullshit made by scared goat herders 2000 years ago. Same with a lot of conspiracy theory stuff. I don't need to spend 3 hours watching something to figure it's bullshit and think the producer/writer/host is probably schizophrenic or something.

What bugs me about a lot of conspiracy theories is that they get a couple good ideas then miss the mark so completely it's absurd. It's obvious that corporations rape lands and peoples and push down what they can give their low class workers as low as they can. It's not some a conspiracy and it has nothing to do with NWO, it's just solid business practices

Also fwiw I've seen a very close connection between these kinds of NWO conspiracies and a (Christian) belief in the rapture. They're not necessarily connected, but remember these are the minds of (some) people who talk about this stuff

lol Took me probably 20 hours of videos and several pages of reading to start considering any of these theories, you guys come here write a few lines and think you know evertything. Why did I went through all this if I tought it was bullshit at first? Because I was curious about it. If you dont think the subject is interesting, dont fucking waste your precious time with it. I'm not saying you will come to the conclusion men is rulled by aliens after watching this stuff, but I think most would consider new posibilities about the world we live in.

i think it's amazing that pooruser solved the thread and people are still engaging tutz =o

Raiderns post occurred bout 90 mins after tutz blog post, unless mods edited the time. in which case touche mods

On May 31 2012 14:43 tutz wrote: lol Took me probably 20 hours of videos and several pages of reading to start considering any of these theories, you guys come here write a few lines and think you know evertything.

this is backwards...should be thousands of pages of reading and 20 seconds of video.

I don't understand why you even try to reach them they will only accept what they already agree with and think they will only find truth getting a phd all bought and paid for.

There is no soul, only the physical world you see and then you die. Even if that's true it's not a very solid base to build nations on and people will start worshiping stupid shit like celebrities or materialism (oh fuck already happened). The more people talk about atheism the more I am drawn into researching the beliefs of my ancestors (no not christianity). Could there be a gradual process at work? we saw christianity and those religions demonize and take over the old teachings, now crosses and things are slowly getting banned, atheism comes in double whammy people start hating humanity the greatest plague of earth, just a theory.

Why are you wearing sunglasses inside?

whats the most interesting video out of the videos you linked, tutz?

this thread seriously reminded me of a friend of mine who believed anciept egypt had a much more advanced technology than the one we have now

Most interesting I think I would have to say its Zeitgeist 3, I think almost anyone can watch and find it good and worth watching. Its not as "crazy" as most of the other videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ex8U_4rJn4s

But there are other videos that caught my eye a lot more than Zeitgeist 3, but I think one would need a certain previous knowledge to find it that interesting. And for the ones that think I'm trolling, I'm not. I'm wearing sunglasses because my face is very sleepy and I have bags under my eyes.

look up manly p hall pretty good.

On May 31 2012 16:30 Raidern wrote: whats the most interesting video out of the videos you linked, tutz? this thread seriously reminded me of a friend of mine who believed anciept egypt had a much more advanced technology than the one we have now

did your friend get a tv show on history channel and is named Christopher Dunn.

http://shop.history.com/lost-technolo...haraohs-paperback/detail.php?p=297977

fucking american tv channels.

On May 31 2012 14:49 bigredhoss wrote: i think it's amazing that pooruser solved the thread and people are still engaging tutz =o

i think tutz is 4 real here. tutz also made the blog post before this prank idea was suggested.

I admit when I was younger I was a little conspiracy theorist. I was into the whole 9-11 inside job, Area 51 omfg aliens, etc... etc....

But then i thought about it. If there really was some New World Order, and tens of thousands of people were in on it, or knew about it, SOMEONE would spill the beans. Someone reputable, and not some random joe schmoe. There would be SOME evidence that was leaked to prove in one of the conspiracies. If it's been going on for hundreds, if not thousands of years, someone would have martyrd themselves.

IDK, maybe since I don't believe in this anymore after reading and watching countless videos when I was younger, I might be in on the conspiracy. Maybe there's some snake alien who controls my body just to fuck with you guys on the interwebs.

Also, http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/articles/zeitgeist/part-three/

You kinda look like Charles Oliveira, with shades.

Also, you'd probably be more popular if you started training in BJJ. You have the perfect accent for it.

L M A O puertoRICAN ftw

On May 31 2012 09:58 tutz wrote: Show nested quote + On May 31 2012 08:58 SugoGosu wrote: Sounds like you'll enjoy http://truthism.com/ enjoy! I have been through this entire website. It is good, thank you for bringing it up.

have you really read a single word on this website??

I have never seen so much garbage in one place.

WTF

super evolved race, with super evolved technology have just decided to create a new race just to enslave it, so they could spend their entire life worried about this race not knowing about them! oh and when your mind wakes up before your body, you will see one of them watching you!

LOL

On June 01 2012 15:08 ilbh wrote: Show nested quote + On May 31 2012 09:58 tutz wrote:   On May 31 2012 08:58 SugoGosu wrote: Sounds like you'll enjoy http://truthism.com/ enjoy! I have been through this entire website. It is good, thank you for bringing it up. have you really read a single word on this website?? I have never seen so much garbage in one place. WTF super evolved race, with super evolved technology have just decided to create a new race just to enslave it, so they could spend their entire life worried about this race not knowing about them! oh and when your mind wakes up before your body, you will see one of them watching you! LOL

I have read the entire website

On June 02 2012 14:17 tutz wrote: Show nested quote + On June 01 2012 15:08 ilbh wrote:   On May 31 2012 09:58 tutz wrote:   On May 31 2012 08:58 SugoGosu wrote: Sounds like you'll enjoy http://truthism.com/ enjoy! I have been through this entire website. It is good, thank you for bringing it up. have you really read a single word on this website?? I have never seen so much garbage in one place. WTF super evolved race, with super evolved technology have just decided to create a new race just to enslave it, so they could spend their entire life worried about this race not knowing about them! oh and when your mind wakes up before your body, you will see one of them watching you! LOL I have read the entire website

and you believe in what they say?

On June 03 2012 09:17 ilbh wrote: Show nested quote + On June 02 2012 14:17 tutz wrote:   On June 01 2012 15:08 ilbh wrote:   On May 31 2012 09:58 tutz wrote:   On May 31 2012 08:58 SugoGosu wrote: Sounds like you'll enjoy http://truthism.com/ enjoy! I have been through this entire website. It is good, thank you for bringing it up. have you really read a single word on this website?? I have never seen so much garbage in one place. WTF super evolved race, with super evolved technology have just decided to create a new race just to enslave it, so they could spend their entire life worried about this race not knowing about them! oh and when your mind wakes up before your body, you will see one of them watching you! LOL I have read the entire website and you believe in what they say?

I believe what all the info Ive gone through has led me to believe, not only that website. You can go through the same info and decide its all bullshit. I know it sounds totally totally crazy.

This thread can easily go in every psychology book. It perfectly shows how the human mind works. I am not commenting on what I think about the posted vids but from people's posts I can easily tell almost nobody has watched more than 10 minutes or so of that material. I keep hearing and reading people's flaming on theories that they don't even know at all what they are about. I mean, if you gonna have an opinion on a theory at least understand what the theory says. Don't go to wikipedia and see what it says cause it's not even the theory lol let alone see the arguments. Most of you go to the enemy's source to ask what the conspiracy theory about them is and some weak arguments and you not only think that this is the theory indeed but also that you've just heard the strongest arguments for it but it's just the BS disinformation you have come accross. You watch 5 minutes or read a few sentences and are like "okay this totally doesn't make any sense based on what I have known my whole life so it is pure bullshit" That's the voice of your ego so don't expect to get a discussion on topics that you are neither interested nor willing to spend some time with an open mind listening to the true theory and the true arguments.

On May 31 2012 11:22 Trolala wrote: The problem with conspiracy theories is that they expand to be very huge. (Scientific consensus on conspiracy theories) E.g. US government is ruled by conspiracy. But other governments don't speak about the conspiracy. So other governments must be also in the conspiracy. Ok, but what about journalists, aren't they supposed to look for facts and stuff. Ok, so media companies are within conspiracy and most of the journalists are oblivious or also within conspiracy. But how is it that you know the truth and nobody else believes you. So it must be others are mostly brainwashed or within conspiracy. See, conspiracy theories just expand to be very global. And the bigger it gets, the less plausible it is. Some conspiracies, e.g. for assassination are obv. real and bad.

Scientific consensus on conspiracy theories? Is this just next to the Propaganda Office in the White House? Man, your reasoning is so flawed my brain almost exploded. You think that the reason that conspiracy theorists think that most governments are in some way moving a common agenda for world domination is actually based on the fact that other governments are not speaking of conspiracy theories as they should?!? R.O.F.L. If I try to say something on rocket science I would be more knowledgable than you speaking of conspiracy theories you haven't read anything on. What a joke of human logic. "Since I have no idea of the arguments of a theory, that MUST MEAN the theory is based on mumbo-jumbo" how do you even play poker with that retarded gray mixture in your head.

On May 31 2012 09:15 tapatapaz wrote: as someone who has in the past spent a lot of time going through this stuff but nowadays can only feel pity, i can say that this is a very normal thing for a weak mind to get attached to. the pattern i see is that whenever i would start thinking about the future and life with this perspective, it corresponded that i would be in stagnation as a human being, not producing anything of value and, whats worse, would refrain myself from making long term goals (because of the 'bleak future') and would have this vicious cycle where i would be even less productive. man, the level here is that you think you are 'awaken' but in reality this is just a 'dooms day prophet' mechanism blown out of proportion because of the internet. i suggest you do some research to conclude that since the beginning of time there have been people, to their advantage (both personal and professional), who say exactly the same things as these videos do regardless of their era. of course we are all going to die, of course many will go through real-life nightmares while at it, but this perception of time is mostly your choice.. lets say you unbiasedly go through life with a filter from now on, and start to compare Predictions in one side and Reality in the other.. id say thats the most 'awaken' you can be: as much as you want it not to be like this, deep in the end the future is always a mystery, unless you stagnate yourself and create this bubble where everything that happens was already meant to be because you dont even want anything to change so as not to get this future hell going but in the end you ironically cause it upon yourself because you are afraid /rant

QFT
i know people who are going through the same thing, i knew people who WENT threw these moments, and i know people who got stuck in these moments.

don't become one of those posters who we just scroll right past because all he talks about is bullshit.

in regards to the topic, the videos are possibliy interesting but only in the sense of wasting your own time. what I think palak is trying to tell you, is if you present some ideas, dont just give your emotional emphasis on how
important it is, provide points,opinions and facts as to why we should invest our time into irt. I liked the idea of the soul traveler, I believe in having a soul, but thats not going make me want to invest time into watching a 5 hour video.

tutz should make a 2 hour presentation on why you should invest 5 hours in watching his videos.

I Shall try and save our lovely blackzillian from the clutches of the evil, vile D_smart_s nincompoopery xD


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