On March 15 2012 08:20 byrnesam wrote:
Yeh i was a huge UO degen for quite a while. I never played on the official shard, I played on a small private free to play shard that was brutal for learning to play the game because you would get PKed non-stop. That non-stop element of danger made the game so much fun. Setting up macros to train skills and just doing that hour on end waiting for that glorious light blue *Your skill in Swordsmanship has increased by 0.1% and is now 88.5%*
UO had so much customization, it was so sick how many skill combos were available.
edit: I wouldnt say UO was all that skilled, but it was certainly more hardcore than MMOs today which are designed to keep you subscribing for eternity and making you agree to a fight before you get to PvP someone.
Yeah not really skilled at all but when you mentioned how invested players used to be in games it reminded me of the good ol' UO days trying to squeeze out a GM in something 0.1% at a time. If you had a 0.3% day you pretty much hit the jackpot. I played Felucca for a while (on the official shard where you had the two worlds) but only when they bought out guild wars or factions or whatever it was called. My lag used to be horrible though, be running for 3 screens thinking you'd made it to safety only to jump back to laying dead on the ground, "ooooooo".
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Dogan0s United States. Mar 15 2012 22:22. Posts 902
LoL is good , light years ahead from dota/dota2/hon shit.
games in high elo are really really sharp and fun.
dont judge if you havent played it alot since imagine someone judgin bw like that back then.
you have no idea -_-
plus koreans are not stupid , they wouldnt pick a game without depth or enough competition.
game is amazing , balance is pretty good , and feedback is great so ..
Before piracy, companies could just make great games and see if people liked it - the profits were that great so the gamble of creative freedom was absolutely worth it if the game was a hit. I can't see any new, groundbreaking genre or game coming out anytime soon.
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. Mar 16 2012 01:48. Posts 14026
On March 15 2012 21:22 Dogan0s wrote:
they wouldnt pick a game without depth or enough competition.
every game these days is easy and shallow.
remember when a lot of console games were near impossible? when you died 3 times and went back to the start of the fucking game?
or when you played a multiplayer game and got owned relentlessly until you worked out what everyone else was doing?
every game these days caters to the highest levels of casuals, because thats where they make all the loot. eSports created a boom of companies making "competitive" games and funding a few prizepools for events trying to create a buzz that ended in some giant anti-climax.
Its all about money these days. They cant make anything hard because people just up and quit as soon as they get killed 4 times in a row.
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. Mar 16 2012 01:59. Posts 14026
On March 15 2012 08:20 byrnesam wrote:
Yeh i was a huge UO degen for quite a while. I never played on the official shard, I played on a small private free to play shard that was brutal for learning to play the game because you would get PKed non-stop. That non-stop element of danger made the game so much fun. Setting up macros to train skills and just doing that hour on end waiting for that glorious light blue *Your skill in Swordsmanship has increased by 0.1% and is now 88.5%*
UO had so much customization, it was so sick how many skill combos were available.
edit: I wouldnt say UO was all that skilled, but it was certainly more hardcore than MMOs today which are designed to keep you subscribing for eternity and making you agree to a fight before you get to PvP someone.
Yeah not really skilled at all but when you mentioned how invested players used to be in games it reminded me of the good ol' UO days trying to squeeze out a GM in something 0.1% at a time. If you had a 0.3% day you pretty much hit the jackpot. I played Felucca for a while (on the official shard where you had the two worlds) but only when they bought out guild wars or factions or whatever it was called. My lag used to be horrible though, be running for 3 screens thinking you'd made it to safety only to jump back to laying dead on the ground, "ooooooo".
lol "oOOOoOo" that noise was so tilting.
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. Mar 16 2012 01:59. Posts 14026
On March 15 2012 10:06 hording wrote:
I remember I my heart used to explode whenever some scary red guy popped up on the screen when I was traveling and shit, I had some serious passion for that game.
being forced to PvP made the game so good. Full on adrenaline rush as you try to escape a PKer.
I remember getting PKed on one character, and instantly logging onto another character to go seek vengeance.
Don't know, I don't know if I can truly enjoy a MMO without sandbox-ful loot style. PVP will always be kinda meh and leveling etc not as fun as the skillsystem. But yeah GW2 will be better than any other alternative on the MMO market atm.
On March 15 2012 08:20 byrnesam wrote:
Yeh i was a huge UO degen for quite a while. I never played on the official shard, I played on a small private free to play shard that was brutal for learning to play the game because you would get PKed non-stop. That non-stop element of danger made the game so much fun. Setting up macros to train skills and just doing that hour on end waiting for that glorious light blue *Your skill in Swordsmanship has increased by 0.1% and is now 88.5%*
UO had so much customization, it was so sick how many skill combos were available.
edit: I wouldnt say UO was all that skilled, but it was certainly more hardcore than MMOs today which are designed to keep you subscribing for eternity and making you agree to a fight before you get to PvP someone.
Yeah not really skilled at all but when you mentioned how invested players used to be in games it reminded me of the good ol' UO days trying to squeeze out a GM in something 0.1% at a time. If you had a 0.3% day you pretty much hit the jackpot. I played Felucca for a while (on the official shard where you had the two worlds) but only when they bought out guild wars or factions or whatever it was called. My lag used to be horrible though, be running for 3 screens thinking you'd made it to safety only to jump back to laying dead on the ground, "ooooooo".
On March 15 2012 21:22 Dogan0s wrote:
LoL is good , light years ahead from dota/dota2/hon shit.
games in high elo are really really sharp and fun.
dont judge if you havent played it alot since imagine someone judgin bw like that back then.
you have no idea -_-
plus koreans are not stupid , they wouldnt pick a game without depth or enough competition.
game is amazing , balance is pretty good , and feedback is great so ..
On March 14 2012 12:14 Stim_Abuser wrote:
Makes me feel old.
When I see people playing these new games, I get that old man get off my lawn mode of, " Back in my day we played games that weren't catered to noobies like you. "
On March 15 2012 21:22 Dogan0s wrote:
LoL is good , light years ahead from dota/dota2/hon shit.
games in high elo are really really sharp and fun.
dont judge if you havent played it alot since imagine someone judgin bw like that back then.
you have no idea -_-
plus koreans are not stupid , they wouldnt pick a game without depth or enough competition.
game is amazing , balance is pretty good , and feedback is great so ..
LoL is more popular than Dota/Hon beacause it's free-2-play and, most importantly, they've translated it in Korean and done a really good job marketing their game.
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Dogan0s United States. Mar 17 2012 02:40. Posts 902
im at 1900 eu east
but you can watch tons of high elo games and some of the best players on own3d.tv
LoL is better than dota/hon and the free-2-play thing is just an illusion since sooner or later you pay for champs/skins.
they make tons of money nowdays...and ofc fact they translated in korean its in the "great feedback" part.
game has over 70 heros and its pretty balanced.action is fast and accurate, games last 20-30 mins (40 max)
i was hating aswell , playing dota for a long time , but when i gave it a chance (like 30 games) i discovered whats going on
not comparing with bw or anything , just saying nowdays is the most competitive game other than 1v1 games , and its easy to play aswell.
i think the game is here to stay for some years ..
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TheHuHu3 United States. Mar 17 2012 04:29. Posts 5544
Infinite town portals, no creep denying opposing team, no gold loss on death. We have this mode in HoN and it's called Casual Mode. Easiest fucking thing in the world. LoL is for newbs. DEAL WITH IT AFK.
On March 17 2012 01:40 Dogan0s wrote:
im at 1900 eu east
but you can watch tons of high elo games and some of the best players on own3d.tv
LoL is better than dota/hon and the free-2-play thing is just an illusion since sooner or later you pay for champs/skins.
they make tons of money nowdays...and ofc fact they translated in korean its in the "great feedback" part.
game has over 70 heros and its pretty balanced.action is fast and accurate, games last 20-30 mins (40 max)
i was hating aswell , playing dota for a long time , but when i gave it a chance (like 30 games) i discovered whats going on
not comparing with bw or anything , just saying nowdays is the most competitive game other than 1v1 games , and its easy to play aswell.
i think the game is here to stay for some years ..
you are being a huge hypocrite.
Here you come being defensive about LoL because other games have depth and you are tired of people dismissing your game just because it's slightly slower paced or F2P or whatever, and BOOM "light years ahead from dota/dota2/hon shit."
hon has insane skill depth, and it's not even fleshed out yet.
Warcraft 3 also had loads of depth, but it was slower paced than BW and some people prefer that.
LoL and Dota are both slower paced than HoN, and some people prefer that.
all of them have sick depth, but different pacing, communities, and mechanic dynamics.
General perception is that a faster paced game requires more skill due to shorter margins of error at progressively higher levels of play, which is why a lot of BW people play wc3 and feel like they are playing a watered down game. this is not necessarily true of course.
sc2 has higher competitiveness in terms of tournaments, events, leagues, prize money etc etc etc etc than bw ever did, but fuck me if you think bw is shitty or any less of a game because of it. that "argument" is completely baseless, and more a factor of both sc2 and LoL being easy to play ( your own words), and marketing, or ease of access etc.
have you even played hon?
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RaiNKhAN United States. Mar 17 2012 06:07. Posts 4080
Hon is more rewarding per win but the community is very brutal. LoL attracts the people who cantdealwithit.jpg
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On March 15 2012 21:22 Dogan0s wrote:
plus koreans are not stupid , they wouldnt pick a game without depth or enough competition.
lol have u been to a pc bang in seoul and seen what 99.9% of them play.. also that isnt any different to anywhere else in the world. the masses love dumb games
edit: and there's nothing wrong with that imo. if i play any pc games now i'll make sure they're pretty brainless and light. now that you know about poker why would u waste ur time on a deep competitve game where you can't win money?
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