What do you like here best, call or raise?

JeanDitPipi is pretty aggro and Dantistcopra just joined the table some hands ago and never played with him before

I would raise flop, raising turn here just looks superstrong

man oh man why do you flat the flop :O

Why you think its much better to raise flop?

beacuse they dont like the free 300$ on turn

i like flatting flop i raise turn tho

On January 25 2012 11:20 sChOuA wrote: Why you think its much better to raise flop?

Most hands with As will call a raise on flop but not on turn, also by raising flop you can rep As but when you raise turn your range is pretty much 99% made hands. But mostly I think its cuz raising turn looks so strong

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I dislike turn raise way more than a flop raise

That said I think call/call is fine too and then seeing what happens on the river

wow....
i think raising flop make 1 pair fold ALOT i mean its 3 way the aggresor is gona have someone else behind to act after our raise its frking hard for him to play
even with a set he is likely to flat call
with a flsuh he is likely to falt too anyway or call but if he has a flush we get his money later anyway
the guy in ctrl of the pot is aggressiv so he can bet blank turn like laways...
i dont think he fold AS to weak raise on turn giving the money in the pot or even a set
i mean we still have tons of money behind

i think its dumb to think they go crazy on flop but dont flat turn

i feel like i call call a ton. maybe raise flop some. rarely raise turn, just way too strong looking

On January 25 2012 13:43 Daut wrote: i feel like i call call a ton. maybe raise flop some. rarely raise turn, just way too strong looking

def agree, I almost always call call here

Call call is great when the board runs out well.

But it's really super homosexual when 35% of the time that 4th spade drops and you don't get all that loot from smaller flush/set's.

I mean an aggro reg donks into 3 players near pot, so I think he's often going for a donk/3bet. If he's got something thats gonna fold to a raise from Hero, you probably shouldn't get much money from him on the turn anyways.

I mean is he really gonna put more money in the pot with QJ with two calls on this board this deep OOP.

Im only half sure Im not being trolled so I wont comment for now -.-

lol

i'm definitely calling flop AND calling turn, anything else seems retarded to me

But that might be cuz i'm playing plo.

not raising the flop here is bad, especially vs jeanditpipi who is a reg that plays back at almost anything.

out of curiosity for the people advocating raising flop, what is your range for raising flop here?

mostly value hands, any flush. with the occasional semi bluff

so 54s+ for value and AsX for semibluff? any other hands you would semibluff?

Call/Call obv.

I don't like raising turn if you're just gonna call flop, so call call

raising flop is ok depending on how they see you

I probably play call call call in a vacuum, but if it was hu for a while before and you have a lot of aggro dynamic going on, then raise flop is better imo.

Thanks for all the reponses guys, i got it in on river vs J7 of flush and shipped it.