Your hands are just too good.

If I ever magically ended up playing you, I would be sure to value bet top pair bottom kicker at least 2 streets every time Then you would surely find some other way to own me, but it might work for a hand or two!

top pair bottom kicker is no good ducy?

well, on the flop that is

On July 02 2011 22:53 soberstone wrote: If I ever magically ended up playing you, I would be sure to value bet top pair bottom kicker at least 2 streets every time Then you would surely find some other way to own me, but it might work for a hand or two!

lol , this is vs a specific fish, he just dosnt play anything like this, maaaaaybe KQ or a Ax spades, doubt he would bomb KQ like this on river though/bomb a flushdraw on turn

just out of curiosity, how many hands/reads do you need on these people to make confortably (hope its spelled right) such calls ?

not much, depends, but in this case ive seen him valuebet different types of strenghts before, and he is superspewy and bluffy aggro floaty

and i get alot of information about him by calling here

but when im curious and his hand makes no sense i call, cant see him haveing anything strong here, and if he valuebet owns me with AJ then gratz to him, dont think he would ever snappot a 2pair or even KQ on the river though

yeah but in that case shouldnt you be betting the turn ? I mean if you are c/cing the turn then arent you c/fing all spades Ks and Qs on the river? ( obv you c/ced a spade)
nonetheless sick hand sir :D

i think both are fine against this guy, he just floats so much here i dont want him to fold by betting the turn =)

and also he dosnt valuebet verylight so i rather call down against an aggromaniac on A turn then bet it myself, for example when he has Ax or Jx or QQ or KK or what ever small % of legit hands he can have here that beats me that isnt a nuthand , he isnt betting the turn, and he probably isnt betting the river more then like 1/3 pot if i check again to him on the river, so i rather checkcall this guy, he puts more money in with air then valuehands, and his airrange is huuuuge, and its even huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuger when he makes a big bet

cuz then its supernut or air, not even sure if he bombs the nuts here, he probably makes some retarded milk halfpotbet with that aswell : )

how you can process all of that while in a hand i will never understand

s4

dunno just comes naturally thinking ahead in all situations nowadays

On July 03 2011 08:58 whamm! wrote: how you can process all of that while in a hand i will never understand

Things that are completely effortless; Like speaking a language or walking was very hard at first, but through years of training now happens completely effortless and is just like breathing.
If we are capable of doing that and things many times harder in a fluent and natural way, picking apart a hand in poker (even in a couple of seconds) should be just as easy through training and with
the right knowledge.

Analysis sounds spot on. Also agreed that villain has a pretty huge blind spot when he gives away those betsizing tells . Nice hand.

nh as always