Do I just suck? You be the judge/PITY POST

How many tables do you play?

On December 21 2010 02:31 Fudyann wrote: How many tables do you play?

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Anyway I thought LAG means you increase your non-sd winnings. I see your redline going down hard. Could it be that you are playing loose/passive? (Obviously compard to a LAG, not to a fish) Say you fire 80% of flops and way too little turns against an opponent that calls flop wide and turn tight.

I think the key to playing LAG is using position to make your opponents give up as cheap as possible, and getting them into trouble when they play back at your big hands. Big hand is relative of course. When somebody is playing back at you light TPGK is committed.

So, try to focus on situational hand reading, and your image, and see if you are committed or not, when he's playing back, and see if you need to fire again if you can get him off something (your image allowing).

Disclaimer: I play at $0.01/$0.02

How often do you double barrel? I have a friend that recently just started winning at NL 25 and the biggest chance he said he made was he started double barreling a lot more. From my personal NL 25 experience, I feel like you get floated a lot, and continuing aggression on the turn sometimes seems like the best way to go.

I do play full ring vs 6max though so I don't really know how the 6max games play out.

I don't double barrel a certain %. I double barrel good turn cards, such as if board was K-3-7r, and the turn was a Q, I will often double barrel. I double barrel when I turn equity, or if I still have equity from the flop as well. That is if I think I can get villain to fold a good % of his hands he calls flop with.

Keep your head up.

You actually do double barrel a certain %

What is that %? Should be in HUD somewhere. Maybe turn aggression frequency is a close proxy

how can i tell if you are doing anythin g wrong by looking at a graph....i think your problem could be not barelling enough. instead of saying you will barrel a Q turn on K37r you should be thinking what hands call on that board. there would be hands like 45, 56, A3, 34, 7x, all kings, all pairs 44-55 and most importantly A high. so if you held one of these mediocre hands pretty much any turn card is going to be bad. if you bet the turn in these instances you can check behind the river and give up. the good thing about this is that you see what they are calling your turn bet with. say the board ran off K37 9 x and you find he is calling with 66 then you could either 3 barrel more or just check behind flop and give up when you miss.

also one other thing that is important is you dont need to be lookiing for excuses to get hands in preflop. you dont have to auto stack off with hands like QQ, JJ, TT and even AK. at 25nl there is just no need to. try calling 3 bets with QQ and AK more than you are.....

assign yourself a 3 bet defence range. this is where so much money is leaked. my framework is to fold pocket pairs 22-JJ, all suited connectors, QJ, KQ,KJ to a 3 bet preflop. call with AK some of the time. i think you should be giving up on AQ too. if you give someone a 5% 3 bet range AQ is rubbish compared to that.
of course i deviate from this time to time but you need to have in your head what you are going to do in a given spot. i cant stress this enough. i looked at the hand where you had JJ (http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/877580) this is exactly the kind of spot you will be leaking money. so what he had 56o, what are you going to do on virtually every flop OOP. you have no idea where you stand. just think to yourself good play mate you won 3 bb off me.


when you say LAG what are you positional stats? i steal something like 45% on the BTN but raise 15% UTG. and what does this position tab on PT3 allude to? ie: what positions are you losing money from? also 20k hands is fuck all of a sample but your redline is shit.

i cant really give much more advice without knowing how you play. post more hands.

his redline isn't so bad, not something that needs special attention

idk but I made a post just like this like over a year ago and here I am struggling still so just throwing that out, poker is a bitch

my red line was always break even. even at 25nl. you need to look for more opportunities to collect dead money, isolate limpers then shoot rockets post flop. 3 bet nits. min raise your buttons. its perfectly fine to half pot 3 streets, in my experience at 25nl people dont even look at the bet amount, they just saw that you bet. taylor your bet sizes according to your hand, nobodys ganna notice. cmonnnnnnnn think of ways to make $$$$. u dont have to be c/r people or squeezing constantly. making expensive full pot double barrels. play poker and look for places to make $

its just 20k hands

yes

I have to agree, this graph doesnt seem indicative of a loose aggressive style of play. The fact that you think you're playing lag when you're not is probably your biggest leak this run.

I wouldn't play too laggy most of the players don't care about your image and you are trying to get paid with your image.
Fishy players have a tendency to call. Can you post your stats for the session?
You are only down 6bi this could easily just be a bad run since you don't have volume.

On December 21 2010 03:14 thumbz555 wrote: Keep your head up.

Julep and Jsquids win this thread. Keep grinding

Are you a nit? And by that I don't mean what's your vpip/pfr, but your postflop.

Do you think putting your opponents into tough spots is just 3betting them a little bit more than normal?

If you have a bluffcatcher type hand, are you only thinking call or fold?

Do you check decent hands instead of bet because you don't think villain is going to call with worse?

Your red line or what not isn't going to change by occasionally making a hero call or semi-bluff double/triple barrel. It's going to shift when you make changes on hands that occur very frequently.

If you've been at the micros for a while there's probably a lot of things that you follow systematically. Imagine something like A2 on Axx. I assume you probably look at it as bet or c/c one or two streets then get to showdown since that's kinda the value of your hand. Have you ever triple barreled to fold out better aces?

Note that changing your redline doesn't matter, since it's your green line that matters. Also 20k hands doesn't really mean anything. But this is just food for thought because I know you've been playing at the micros for a while now.