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Fox   . Mar 12 2008 15:33. Posts 3110

So today on sherdog radio. TJ and Josh were talking about top 10. I called them and weighed in. At first they talked about top 5 ufc since zuffa and our list came down to something like.

randy
chuck
hughes
silva
and ? I said gsp but they were kinda half and half since he had a suspect loss to serra

I asked them about Kid but they didn't really weigh in on him. I want to give a shout out to naz/keanu they showed me the light about how godly Kid is.

Anyway here is my top 10 guys of all time. Understand we are talking about "of all time" not how they would fair today. so in no particular order.

bas rutten
royce gracie
frank shamrock
chuck lidell
randy couture
matt hughes
fedor emelianenko
big nog
wandy
sakuraba

the only one that i was semi unsure of was wandy because of his recent situation. but he was god in his prime and he's koed so many people.

guys who could take his place or are in top 20.

kid
spider
gsp
bj penn
henderson

any others you guys want to add?

if you got a problem with my list lets debate it :o

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Svenman87   United States. Mar 12 2008 15:41. Posts 4636

how is Takanori Gomi not on the top ten of all time?
Fireball Kid is EASILY top 10

take out liddell and add Gomi imo

He's seriously the baddest mofo ever to walk into a ring. Check out his HL video's it's sick.

 Last edit: 12/03/2008 15:47

Zadan   Canada. Mar 12 2008 15:55. Posts 971

who is kid??


Svenman87   United States. Mar 12 2008 15:57. Posts 4636


  On March 12 2008 14:55 Zadan wrote:
who is kid??



Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto

http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterid=1354


NotSorry   United States. Mar 12 2008 15:59. Posts 2603

....having couture, liddell, bas or roycee in the top 10 "of all times" list is a terrible and bias start. Seriously any of those over Fedor, Nog, Rampage or A. Silva is just wrong.

Liddell made a career out of getting hand fed wrestlers with no striking ability because he was the poster boy.

Couture is 16-8, was literally forced out of the LHW devision. Has beaten what? 2 top 5 fighters in his whole career?

Royce was smart he got in at a time when most of the mma world didn't know about BJJ and was tapping people left and right. The second it became known that BJJ was a must for mma fighters he leaves the scene only to come back roided up for a huge payday getting his ass handed to him. Not sure if you can really count that as being the best, or just other people at a period of time being really bad.

Bas as much as I love him from his Pride commentating, is very highly overrated in mma, he made his name in pancrase which is not MMA.

Frank is one of those unknowns, he's very good, but he's never really been tested to see just how good he is. Pretty much banned himself from fighting the top guys in his devision with his personal issues with certain companies/people.

We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. 

Fraser   Canada. Mar 12 2008 16:04. Posts 4605

never seen gomi fight but it sounds like him vs Penn would be interesting.


Fraser   Canada. Mar 12 2008 16:18. Posts 4605

And i take it you guys think kid would walk over Urijah Faber?


KeanuReaver   United States. Mar 12 2008 16:18. Posts 2022

pancrase fighters might be the most underrated fighters in the history of mma
even more so than shooto fighters

and the endurance required for MMA, which has actions like punching and kicking bone and muscle with 1000-2500 PSI. - Taco 

PplusAD   Germany. Mar 12 2008 17:29. Posts 7182

My List

1. Fedor
2. Big Nog
3. Rickson Gracie ( how can you not put him in your list ?)
4. Randy
5. Wanderlei ( his time is over , but he for sure was one hell of a fighter in the past)
6. Chuck Liddell
7. Bas
8. Hughes
9. Gomi
10. CroCop ( yeha he looked bad in his last 2 fights >_< but he accomplished enough before to be worth his place in that list.

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz) 

100Large   Canada. Mar 12 2008 17:30. Posts 359

TOP FIGHTERs:

George St.Pierre
Anderson silva
Tall skinny guy from the show lol

i really want the coke and the money but ill settle for your necklace 

Daut    United States. Mar 12 2008 17:57. Posts 8955

i tried to make a list 2-3 times but it was almost impossible for me

so i decided that im only going to list fedor and minotauro as #1 and #2 respectively. after them a group of the following are my next top 15 (just going from heavyweight down the line):


bas, couture, crocop, liddell, hendo, wandy, rampage, anderson silva, sakuraba, gsp, matt hughes, bj penn, gomi, kid, faber.

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, DautLast edit: 12/03/2008 17:58

KeanuReaver   United States. Mar 12 2008 18:02. Posts 2022

i don't understand how mirko can be considered a top 10 greatest fighter
his biggest claim to fame is his owgp win in which 2 of the 4 fighters weren't even in his weight class (yoshida shouldn't be either, he's a pretty small even for 205) and he beat a total of 1 top 10 hw.
he's never been #1 in the world at hw, and he's never held the belt in pride.

igor has a much better case for top 10 than mirko

and the endurance required for MMA, which has actions like punching and kicking bone and muscle with 1000-2500 PSI. - Taco 

Stim_Abuser   United States. Mar 12 2008 18:13. Posts 7499

lol at top 10 of all time when mma is like 20 years old.

notsorry is right about bas and couture.

and daut faber is gonna get whooped on by pulver.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

whamm!   Albania. Mar 12 2008 19:53. Posts 11625

silva
fedor
gracie
sakuraba
couture
shamrock
rutten
penn

can only think of 8 deserving ppl hehe
the next two would be just fillers



Nazgul    Netherlands. Mar 12 2008 20:26. Posts 7080

royce/saku are far and away top 2 thats for sure

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo 

whamm!   Albania. Mar 12 2008 20:34. Posts 11625

ok royce and saku were just "groundbreakers" or something. i actually think royce is just like a bjj version of tank abbot. who were entertaining and in a way fresh. saku was just like any pro wrestlers dream of making the switch to mma and translating very well at first.


Fox   . Mar 12 2008 20:36. Posts 3110

not sorry are you insane.

i seriously can't even comment on your post because it shatters too many laws of mma physics.....

naz post = yes
daut post = yes
wham post = yes

fraser gomi lost to penn badly
gomi is great but he has bad losses to random guys and losses to other top fighters.

he should definately be in my top 20 and possibly top 10 instead of wandy.


Fox   . Mar 12 2008 20:37. Posts 3110

oh and funaki is top 20 for sure.


Fox   . Mar 12 2008 20:37. Posts 3110

oh yeah thx daut add faber in there.


Fox   . Mar 12 2008 20:40. Posts 3110


  On March 12 2008 19:34 whamm! wrote:
ok royce and saku were just "groundbreakers" or something. i actually think royce is just like a bjj version of tank abbot. who were entertaining and in a way fresh. saku was just like any pro wrestlers dream of making the switch to mma and translating very well at first.



groundbreakers?

gsp and spider are groundbreakers by that logic being the few guys ever to be 100% complete mma fighters with athletic skill.

but i mean i get what you're saying. but still both are easily top 10. (saku/royce)

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