Short stack strategy at the micros - thoughts?by tirceol, April 12
So I read through the majority of Getting Started in Hold 'em (Ed Miller) as plugged by Jelle in this article... so how do you guys feel about the short stack strategy described?
1. Buy in with table minimum.
2. Play only premium hands (early high pairs and AK, mid another pair or two and AQs/AQ, late more pairs and AJ/AT)
3. Bet as much as you think you can while still drawing callers with (most likely) inferior hands.
4. Shove after the flop.
On a related note, I'm playing at Carbon right now (US player lolz) but their micro stakes $0.02/$0.04 tables' min buy in is $1.20 which is 30x BB... basically qualifies for medium stack per the book... do you think short stack strategy works when your minimum starting stack is 30x BB?
Hello, saturday is going to be the "celebrity takedown" in a casino in quebec.
I obv won a satty for it. 310$ buyin (was 550 but it includes a meal + night at hotelroom)with 150 players. Bounty of 500$ on the 10 or so celebs that are going to be there. I'm kinda super excited, as this is my biggest buyin mtt lifetime (if you exclude the 428 hyper-turbo sngs lawl), and I have a very low quantity of live play experiences.
I wanted to get some tips maybe... theres stuff I won't think about that might make a difference.
The mtt is going to start at 10AM, which is super early for me. I still have a week to get used to waking up early, but I am considering a small dose of caffeine intake. (my caffeine resistance is super low since i never use that stuff really, but im scared to hit a "low" after a while)
I would think I should dress up like a normal person, aka no poker gears, to hide my superior-than-these-noobs-experience, altho I love my lp/stars shirts. ^^
I prob won't use sunglasses, but I have never played in a casino so I don't know how needed they are or not.
Want to win more money at poker? Millions? Yes, you say? Give me your first born and your attention.
Most people here have very poor attention / reading skills, which translates to their poker playing/quality/success; Poor attention control also spills over into most peoples' unproductive life.
Your first step to being more successful is: Controlling your Attention
I’ve just been reading Luke’s “Crash Course in the Neuroscience of Human Motivation.” It is a useful text, although there are a few technical errors and a few bits of outdated information (see [1], updated information about one particular quibble in [2] and [3]).
There is one significant missing piece, however, which is of critical importance for our subject matter here on LW: the effect of attention on plasticity, including the plasticity of motivation. Since I don’t see any other texts addressing it directly (certainly not from a neuroscientific perspective), let’s cover the main idea here.
Summary for impatient readers: focus of attention physically determines which synapses in your brain get stronger, and which areas of your cortex physically grow in size. The implications of this provide direct guidance for alteration of behaviors and motivational patterns. This is used for this purpose extensively: for instance, many benefits of the Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy approach rely on this mechanism.
I – Attention and plasticity
To illustrate this properly, we need to define two terms. I’m guessing these are very familiar to most readers here, but let’s cover them briefly just in case.
First thing to keep in mind is the plasticity of cortical maps. In essence, particular functional areas of our brain can expand or shrink based on how often (and how intensely) they are used. A small amount of this growth is physical, as new axons grow, expanding the white matter; most of it happens by repurposing any less-used circuitry in the vicinity of the active area. For example, our sense of sight is processed by our visual cortex, which turns signals from our eyes into lines, shapes, colors and movement. In blind people, however, this part of the brain becomes invaded by other senses, and begins to process sensations like touch and hearing, such that they become significantly more sensitive than in sighted people. Similarly, in deaf people, auditory cortex (part of the brain that processes sounds) becomes adapted to process visual information and gather language clues by sight.
Second concept we’ll need is somatosensory cortex (SSC for short). This is an area of the (vertebrate) brain where most of the incoming touch and positional (proprioceptive) sensations from the body converge. There is a map-like quality to this part of our brain, as every body part links to a particular bit of the SSC surface (which can be illustrated with silly-looking things, such as the sensory homunculus). More touch-sensitive areas of the body have larger corresponding areas within the SSC.
With these two in mind, let’s consider one actual experiment [4]. Scientists measured and mapped the area of an owl monkey’s SSC which became activated when one of his fingertips was touched. The monkey was then trained to hold that finger on a tactile stimulator – a moving wheel that stimulates touch receptors. The monkey had to pay attention to the stimulus, and was rewarded for letting go upon detecting certain changes in spinning frequency. After a few weeks of training, the area was measured again.
As you probably expected, the area had grown larger. The touch-processing neurons grew out, co-opting surrounding circuitry in order to achieve better and faster processing of the stimulus that produced the reward. Which is, so far, just another way of showing plasticity of cortical maps.
But then, there is something else. The SSC area expanded only when the monkey had to pay attention to the sensation of touch in order to receive the reward. If a monkey was trained to keep a hand on the wheel that moved just the same, but he did not have to pay attention to it… the cortical map remained the same size. This finding has since been replicated in humans, many times (for instance [5, 6]).
Take a moment to consider what this means.
A man is sitting in his living room, in front of a chessboard. Classical music plays in the background. The man is focused, thinking about the next move, about his chess strategy, and about the future possibilities of the game. His neural networks are optimizing, making him a better chess player.
A man is sitting in his living room, in front of a chessboard. Classical music plays in the background. The man is focused, thinking about the music he hears, listening to the chords and anticipating the sounds still to come. His neural networks are optimizing, making him better at understanding music and hearing subtleties within a melody.
A man is sitting in his living room, in front of a chessboard. Classical music plays in the background. The man is focused, gritting his teeth as another flash of pain comes from his bad back. His neural networks are optimizing, making the pain more intense, easier to feel, harder to ignore.
II – Practical implications: making and breaking habits, efficacy of CBT
Habitual learned behaviors are often illustrated with the example of driving. When we are learning to drive, we have to pay attention to everything: when to push the pedals, when to signal, where to hold our hands… A few years later, these behaviors become so automatic, we hardly pay attention at all. Indeed, most of us can drive for hours while carrying on conversations or listening to audiobooks. We are completely unaware, as our own body keeps pushing pedals, signaling turns, and changing gears.
We can therefore say that driving behaviors, through practice and attention, eventually become automatic – which is, most of the time, a good thing. But so do many other things, including some destructive ones we might want to get rid of. Let’s take a simple one: nail biting. You are reading, or watching a movie, or thinking, or driving… when you suddenly notice some minor pain, and realize that you have chewed your nail into a ragged stump. Ouch!
You catch yourself biting, you stop. Five minutes later, you catch yourself biting again. You stop again. Repeat ad infinitum, or ad nauseam, whichever comes first.
Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy has a highly successful approach for breaking habits, which requires only a very subtle alteration to this process. You notice that you are biting your nails. You immediately focus your attention on what you are doing, and you stop doing it. No rage, no blaming yourself, no negative emotions. You just stop, and you focus all the attention you can on the act of stopping. You move your arm down, focusing your attention on the act of movement, on the feeling of your arm going down, away from your mouth. That’s it. You can go back to whatever you were doing.
Five minutes later, you notice yourself biting your nails again. You calmly repeat the procedure again.
By doing this, you are training yourself to perform a new behavior – the “stop and put the hand down” behavior – which is itself triggered by the nail-biting behavior. As you go along, you will get better and better at noticing that you have started to bite your nails. You will also get better and better at stopping and putting your hand down. After a while, this will become semi-automatic; you’ll notice that your hand went to your mouth, a nail touched your tooth, and the hand went back down before you could do anything. Don’t stop training: focus your attention on the “stop and drop” part of the action.
After a while, the nail-biting simply goes away. Of course, the more complex and more ingrained a habit is, the more effort and time will be needed to break it. But for most people, even strong habits can be relatively quickly weakened, or redirected into less destructive behaviors.
It’s probably obvious that habits can be created in this way as well. We don’t become better at things we do – we become better at things we pay attention to while we’re doing them. If you want to make exercise a habit, your efforts will be much more effective if you focus your attention on your exercise technique, rather than repeatedly thinking how painful and tiring the whole process is.
There is also a direct implication for training in any complex skill. Start with the well-known learning curve effect: we gain a lot of skill relatively quickly, and then improvements slow down incrementally as we approach our maximum potential skill level. It is relatively easy to go from a poor to a mediocre tennis player; it is much, much harder to go from mediocre to good, and even harder to go from good to excellent.
Complex skills have many different aspects, which we usually attempt to train simultaneously. We can become very good at some, while staying poor at others. The optimal approach would be to focus most of our attention on those aspects where our abilities are weakest, since smaller investments of time and effort will lead to larger improvements in skill.
To keep with the tennis metaphor, one could become very good at controlling the ball direction and spin, while still having a poor awareness of the opponent’s position. Simply playing more will improve both aspects further, but our hypothetical player should optimally try to focus her attention on opponent awareness [7].
Finally, there is another implication which I’ll leave as an exercise for the readers. Mindfulness meditation, which essentially boils down to training control of attention, has been shown to exert a positive effect on many, many different things (lowering depression, anxiety and stress, as well as improving productivity [8, 9, 10]). In the light of the previous text, one obvious reason why better control over attention can produce all these beneficial effects should immediately come to mind.
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No cliffs, however, putting some of this into context for poker:
-playing mass tables constantly will kill your future intelligent growth in poker
-playing when distracted can result in the same thing as mass tabling
-playing when tired/unfocus can lead to some stroke of genius/creative moments
-playing when fully focused and gathering all the information you can at the tables will increase your "poker IQ" and actual brain growth
-mixing in sessions of deep focus and sessions with less focus under conditions such as 'tiredness' could bring you new strategy concepts
Personal
-I always have found my best months come from alternating my sessions between afternoon focused sessions and late night sessions where I am more tired. Playing 1-2 sessions each day in this fashion has increased my winrate.
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I do not want your first born
Weak attempt at grabbing your attention
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Additionally, here is light reading for why mixing in focus with less focus throughout your day can achieve greater knowledge and understanding
Here’s a brain teaser: Your task is to move a single line so that the false arithmetic statement below becomes true.
IV = III + III
Did you get it? In this case, the solution is rather obvious – you should move the first “I” to the right side of the “V,” so that the statement now reads: VI = III + III. Not surprisingly, the vast majority of people (92 percent) quickly solve this problem, as it requires a standard problem-solving approach in which only the answer is altered. What’s perhaps a bit more surprising is that nearly 90 percent of patients with brain damage to the prefrontal lobes — this leaves them with severe attentional deficits, unable to control their mental spotlight — are also able to find the answer.
Here’s a much more challenging equation to fix:
III = III + III
In this case, only 43 percent of normal subjects were able to solve the problem. Most stared at the Roman numerals for a few minutes and then surrendered. The patients who couldn’t pay attention, however, had an 82 percent success rate. What accounts for this bizarre result? Why does brain damage dramatically improve performance on a hard creative task? The explanation is rooted in the unexpected nature of the solution, which involves moving the vertical matchstick in the plus sign, transforming it into an equal sign. (The equation is now a simple tautology: III = III = III.) The reason this puzzle is so difficult, at least for people without brain damage, has to do with the standard constraints of math problems. Because we’re not used to thinking about the operator, most people quickly fix their attention on the roman numerals. But that’s a dead end. The patients with a severe cognitive deficit, in contrast, can’t restrict their search. They are forced by their brain injury to consider a much wider range of possible answers. And this is why they’re nearly twice as likely to have a breakthrough.
Of course, this doesn’t mean you should take a hammer to your frontal lobes. Being able to direct the spotlight of attention is a crucial talent. However, the creative upside of brain damage — the unexpected benefits of not being able to focus — does reveal something important about the imagination. Sometimes, it helps to consider irrelevant information, to eavesdrop on all the stray associations unfolding in the far reaches of the brain. We are more likely to find the answer because we have less control over where we look.
This helps explain a new study led by Mareike Wieth at Albion College. The scientists surveyed 428 undergrads about their circadian habits, asking them whether they were more productive and alert in the morning or evening. As expected, the overwhelming majority were night owls, which is why they studiously avoided 9 a.m. classes. Then, the scientists gave the students a series of problem-solving tasks. Half of these tasks were creative insight puzzles, in which the answer arrives suddenly and seemingly out of nowhere. Here’s a sample insight puzzle:
A man has married 20 women in a small town. All of the women are still alive and none of them are divorced. The man has broken no laws. Who is the man?
And here’s another classic puzzle:
Marsha and Marjorie were born on the same day of the same month of the same year to the same mother and the same father, yet they are not twins. How is that possible?
Did you solve these brain teasers? (The answers are, respectively, priest and triplets.)
The other half of the problems given to the students were standard analytic problems, such as long-division and pre-algebra equations. These questions don’t require insights. Instead, they benefit from ordinary focus, as people grind out the answer and check to make sure it’s right. The subjects were given four minutes to solve each problem. Half of them were tested early in the morning (8:30 a.m.) and half were tested in the late afternoon (around 5 p.m.).
The results are a testament to the creative virtues of grogginess. When people were tested during their “least optimal time of day” — think of that night owl stumbling into the lab in the early morning — they were significantly more effective at solving insight puzzles. (On one problem, their performance increased by nearly 50 percent.) Performance on the analytic problems, meanwhile, was unaffected by the clock.
The larger lesson is that those sleepy students, like a brain-damaged patient, benefit from the inability to focus. Their minds are drowsy and disorganized, humming with associations that they’d normally ignore. When we need an insight, of course, those stray associations are the source of the answer.
One last piece of evidence: A brand-new study by scientists at the University of Illinois at Chicago compared performance on insight puzzles between sober and drunk students. (They were aiming for real intoxication, giving students enough booze to achieve a blood alcohol level of 0.075.) Once the students achieved “peak intoxication” the scientists gave them a battery of word problems – they’re known as remote associate tests – that are often solved in a moment of insight. Here’s a sample problem. Your task is to find the one additional word that goes with the following triad of words:
Cracker Union Rabbit
In this case, the answer is “jack.” According to the data, drunk students solved more of these word problems in less time. They also were much more likely to perceive their solutions as the result of a sudden insight. And the differences were dramatic: The alcohol made subjects nearly 30 percent more likely to find the unexpected solution.
Once again, the explanation for this effect returns us to the benefits of not being able to pay attention. The stupor of alcohol, like the haze of the early morning, makes it harder for us to ignore those unlikely thoughts and remote associations that are such important elements of the imagination. So the next time you are in need of insight, avoid caffeine and concentration. Don’t chain yourself to your desk. Instead, set the alarm a few minutes early and wallow in your groggy thoughts. And if that doesn’t work, chug a beer.
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So how do you guys play when nearing the bubble of a tournament?
http://www.liquidpoker.net/userpoll/draw.php?poll_id=1295
Poll: How do you play when nearing the bubble in a tournament?
(Vote): I swipe up the blinds.
(Vote): I call the people swiping up the blinds and clear em out.
(Vote): I fold everything and pray.
(Vote): I'm chip leader, I spend the time polishing my bracelet.
is anyone willing to trasnfer 2.5k on Ipoker for my 2.5k on stars? unless i know ur balling im gonna ask for u to transfer first i dont care the increments =_= even if you want to do 200 at a time or something. Again my stars money for your ipoker moneys
Life
Well, it's been almost 2 weeks since I sold my car and we have been using just one car for the family, and I'm happy to say that the transition has been really smooth so far. My wife had last week off of work for Spring Break so that was the true test for us, since her biggest issue with having one car was that she would feel stuck at home while I was at the casino. We managed though, and I think I almost have her convinced to downsize the SUV into something more fuel-efficient with just as much cargo space. Now I just have to teach her how to drive a manual for maximum efficiency.
I also found that we did some things during the week to just avoid using a car. Two days in a row we biked somewhere that we were going to go instead of driving; once to go to the park for lunch, and once to go to a close-by restaurant for Easter Brunch. That was the first honest exercise I've gotten all year so I felt pretty good about that.
Savings
The change seems like it will really help with lowering monthly costs as predicted. Insurance went down from $200 to $90, which is more than I was expecting. Obviously, the cost of the car is gone too ($305 per month). And I got an added boost to income this month as the car had a warranty on it that I got a refund for ($1,900). Granted, that was paid for with the purchase of the car, but it's nice to get it back. And finally about $200 in yearly registration fees.
Total Savings: $590 per month for the next 12 months
That's $7,080 in extra money for the year, hard to say no to that.
Potential Future Problems
I'm a little worried about when the WSOP starts because my wife has to work until June 8th so I might have to buy a cheap used car for June or something if we can even find a sitter for the little one. I'm going to assume that I can buy and resell a used car on craigslist for no loss on the value of the car, so the cost of picking up a second car for one month I'll estimate at $330 ($150 for registration, $100 for one month of insurance and say $80 for extra gas use since my wife will have extra access to a vehicle). I'll be actively working on a solution to that problem, but some ideas besides getting a second car are:
-Carpool. Seems odd for a poker player, but maybe I can find someone to pick me up for the first week and either split gas money or return the favor a later week. Total cost avoidance: $330, 100%, but comes with dependence on someone else.
-Hotel. Could stay at the Rio for 5 days @ 50 /day with one of the many people coming in for the WSOP and bring my own food to avoid getting owned by casino food. Total cost avoidance: $80, 24.4%. Plus avoid DMV waiting and take some cost burden off of a player staying at Rio anyways. Decent option, but probably underestimating the cost of a room there, and my wife's annoyance with me for being gone for a week while living in the same city.
-Rent a car. Seems like an OK idea, but in reality I feel like it would be a net loss. I ran a quote for it though to check it out. Looks like getting the cheapest model from June 1st through June 8th would run me $245 after tax. So total cost to me if I include the $80 of extra gas spent for having the 2nd car available would be $325. Total cost avoidance: $5, 1.5%. But I also ran a quote for June 4-8th bc June 1st is a Friday and if I can get one ride on Friday and rent a car for the following weekdays it would run me $204; $284 after gas. Saving me $46 or 14% from buying a car, and all the hassles.
I think renting might be the best idea as far as maximizing independence and minimizing hassle, glad I ran the quote on that.
Anyways, I guess I'll wrap this long post up. Probably could have split this post up into two entries, but my fingers just kept on trucking, as it were, so enjoy the bonus info and let me know if you have any other ideas, comments, or questions.
First things first man you fucking with the worst, I'll be sticking pins to your head like a fucking nurse. - ODB
I'm doing really well, but I should be more focused on how I'm playing. My roll is at 940€, though only because I played some SNGs for VIP points and also got 200€ rakeback for last month. Either way, I'm halfway through to my goal (500€) and looks like I'll be reaching it soon if I keep playing like I'm playing. Nuff said, here's my results:
Considering I've been at my girlfriends place (in Umeå, northern Sweden)and spent lots of time with her family n relatives n shit, the amount of hands I've played pleases me.
Next cut I'ma post here is So What (hence the blog title) by Miles Davis, which is from a very very famous jazz record called Kind Of Blue. If there are any jazz cats out there you probably already know this one, and for anyone else that hasn't I hope this can maybe get you to listen to something different from what you usually do. Jazz can be difficult to get into sometimes, but this track is straightforward and just dope. Enjoy and cu around!
Artanis11 $5,300.00 poker stakes
AndrewBoccia $750.00 poker stakes
quocy04 $400.00 400 of 1k left
david kent $120.00 poker
li $2,000.00 poker stakes
Reid $350.00 canada
thyrandaal $40.00 canada
dad $330.00 gamblin
goal - pay these off asap and get a nice place on the beach here in CR, when my 1 year lease is up :-)
upon arrival I was 20k in MU (cost 10k for everything (had a canada move go bad 3500x2 7k) 10k owed to staker but x2 for any $ non poker related, rent / moving / airplanes / food / other stuff, etc;
ill comeback to the page to mark off debts when i get em paid up and update you guys np ;-)
mad respect,
I want to do everything correctly now guys,
Show me the master ways;
GL LP,
win!
Ryan
I'm still a little hungover, groggy and felt like getting some stuff down on paper and felt like some of this might have some value for the LP crowd. Just going machine gun style:
-Anyone interested in health, wellness, medicine, tech should read "End of Illness" by David Agus. He covers basically all the health threads that popped up in the general forum over the last year and it's basically a hack on health and wellness.
Alcohol:
-not all wine is created equal.
-not all tequila is created equal.
-et al
To all the young, broke kids:
grow/improve/acquire knowledge/build quality relationships, make some $$$$$, start drinking better alcohol you will not be disappointed. i guess it's all subjective but a really good glass of wine is orgasmic and after a lot doesn't fuck you up the next day. ditto w/ tequila, rum, whiskey, scotch, cognac, vodka, et al.
$5/bottle tequila and rum is horrible. i'm not saying you need to go broke buying $10 shots at the bar but pick your liquor of choice and scale up. i will be surprised if you are disappoint.
This holds true for basically anything that you enjoy in life.
Hangover Remedy:
-sleep+time
-ICE COLD water. nothing better.
-frozen fresh picked fruit
-maybe little bit coffee or painkiller
if you can stomach it and the weather is nice:
-walk+fresh air. try to push yourself to the point you get some natural endorphins, painkillers, anti-inflammatories kickin in.
-eggs + bacon + steak (w/e you like)
Food Related but Non-Hangover related:
asparagus is (the) nuts right now. get that shit fresh picked. lil bit evoo. sea salt. garlic. pepper. roast that sumbitch up for like 20-25 min. lil bit evoo. grated parmesan cheese. lemon. that's where it's at this april.
add in steak of choice and gameover. you've won.
oh shit, cab or malbec of choice? man nukka pass go like 20 times, don't go to jail, and land on boardwalk holla.
House Music:
-don't sleep on hernan catteneo. if you enjoy a bit more deep, progressive, house'y, electronica'y stuff thus nukka gets it better than anybody.
-as far as mainstream right now. avicii and sebastian ingrosso are killin it. if you wanna give new house music a try check them out. they've been killin it for a while but all these f swedes are murderin shit. imo they've kinda started their own new sub-genre of swedish house ownage.
-if you are completely new to house: thomas banghalter. daft punk.
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