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TheHuHu3   United States. Jun 14 2011 16:27. Posts 5544 | | |
| On June 14 2011 05:43 noface wrote:
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On June 13 2011 13:22 Arirang wrote:
Am I the only one disappointed with this episode? It was really lackluster imho. This episode was just crammed with so much stuff... Perhaps that was the cost of having R.R Martin writing the episode before this and he didn't push enough content in that episode? I don't know.
Not really spoilers, but things I was disappointed with:
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- Walder Frey is a very interesting character, yet they did little with him. Just..really disappointing.
- Robb acted like he cared about his arranged marriage to a Frey girl. I'm pretty sure in the book, he doesn't really care. I mean, he cares, but he knows what needs to be done must be done. So he brushes it off like whatever. In the show, he seems to care a great deal... as far as wasting the show's valuable time asking his mother if he had met them, she gives off an awkward answer..and Robb walking away a bit upset. That's not even his character. What the hell man?
- Jon's talk with Aemon was supposed to be.. really epic and heavy. The atmosphere I thought was poorly portrayed. The truth that the old man reveals has to come as an extreme surprise to all, but it was just poorly revealed and felt rushed.
- Tyrion's table talk with Tywin.. that part was also rushed as hell and meh. It's not properly portraying the complex relationship between Tywin and Tyrion imo.
- Something I notice with this show is the incredibly increased emphasis on whores. As far as even going to give a character in that whore from the north. And now, with Shae, they put more effort into bringing her alive than other more interesting parts imo.
- Greatjon's character is butchered. And what of Roose Bolton?
- Khal Drogo's bloodmagic scene was really off altogether.
- Obviously, the war scene was not done well. Tyrion being knocked out of his own men's hammer by accident is stupid to say the least. I guess it was just a easy way for the writers to say, "oh, he blacked out, he wakes up, and the war is over, tada!!"
- Ned's execution scene, I had always thought it to be done in a much bigger crowd, in a more magnificent setting with everyone watching. Scale was not delivered I thought. And secondly, I thought the execution was to be done while both Varys and Queen is like "wtf son?" to Joffrey. They nag for a bit then they just kind of stand around watching.
Bronn is a badass though.
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SPOILERS BELOW! DO NOT READ UNLESS YOU'VE READ BOOKS.
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Roose Bolton plays a huge role before the Red Wedding. He basically takes over Harrenhal and overlooks it while Arya takes on another identity there as a servant. Roose also harbors Jaime Lannister and Brienne for a while before letting them go back to King's Landing. Also keep in mind that Roose Bolton's bastard son and his role in taking over Theon's raid on Winterfell.
Did you read these books? I have been a fan going back twelve years, so some things I am not very clear on, but I do remember some things.
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-Walder Frey is really a very old lecher more than anything, not really much of an interesting or dynamic character, but he is brought to life by Martin very well in the book I thought.
-It has been awhile, but I am very certain Robb cared a great deal, because he had fallen in love with a young nurse that was taking care of him during the war. Aside from that, it seems obvious no great house would want to have much to do with a house whose head was Walder Frey.
-Whores play an important role in the book too, particularly with respect to Tyrion, especially since the interactions of his entire adult life with women revolve around whores. The whore, Tysha, that Tyrion described in his story to Shae and Bronn played a big role in shaping Tyrion's life. Shae will also play a major role in his life as well, as well as that of Tywin's... She's sooooooo fucking hot in the series.
-I didn't have any major problem with Greatjon's character, but I know he was more of a badass in the books. And we will of course see Roose Bolton during the Red Wedding, is there really a need to introduce the character that much sooner, I honestly don't remember, creepy and memorable character for sure though.
-It was way off, Dany agreed to sacrifice her unborn child so that Khal Drogo could live, Mirri Maz Duur explicitly told her that she had to make that sacrifice, wonder why they changed that scene.
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-It wasn't as bad as the Tourney of the Hand I thought in terms of epic scale. I was looking forward to those scenes, and was really let down.
-Bronn is a great character in the books and on screen, just wish The Hound would have gotten the same treatment.
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c4rnage   . Jun 15 2011 15:08. Posts 409 | | |
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PoorUser   United States. Jun 15 2011 16:35. Posts 7471 | | |
hearing them call it season 2 of game of thrones hurts my head |
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LsDDeaD   Bulgaria. Jun 17 2011 04:20. Posts 165 | | |
I can't wait for the next episode, there's so much going on right now.I want to ask something those who have read the books already - do you find the series less entertainin because of that?This 1 week waiting gor each episode seems like eternity, and knowing that the books are out there sometimes makes me want to just grab them and read them, cause...fuck it.But I really like the series and the scenario I'm not sure that It will remain that way if i read the books.Would mind share you personal opinion? |
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TheHuHu3   United States. Jun 17 2011 04:34. Posts 5544 | | |
Even though I knew the outcome of the last episode from reading the books, I still got goosebumps from seeing it ;O. I've never really pictured cities or places when I read books, only the characters, so the show visualizes all the shit I never thought to. |
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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jun 17 2011 14:06. Posts 5290 | | |
i dont know if i find the show less entertaining because i know whats going to happen, because i've never been able to experience this show without knowing whats going to happen. It's still rly good tho, and waiting 1 week per episode is alot better than waiting 5 years per book. |
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ggplz   Sweden. Jun 18 2011 04:57. Posts 16784 | | |
| On June 17 2011 13:06 Stroggoz wrote:
i dont know if i find the show less entertaining because i know whats going to happen, because i've never been able to experience this show without knowing whats going to happen. It's still rly good tho, and waiting 1 week per episode is alot better than waiting 5 years per book. |
Well, theres pros and cons to both sides. I'm reading the first book atm and you kinda lose the stimulation you get from most books where you're visualising things yourself -- for the mostpart anyway. If you've already seen the episodes it's hard to visualise characters etc for yourself because it's already been interpreted and you've seen it and that makes it a little more dull of a read. Imo it depends what u like more, reading/discovering books or watching the show. I don't really know which one i prefer yet and if i'll for sure read 2nd book onwards before next show but i suspect i will =p
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| On June 18 2011 03:57 ggplz wrote:
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On June 17 2011 13:06 Stroggoz wrote:
i dont know if i find the show less entertaining because i know whats going to happen, because i've never been able to experience this show without knowing whats going to happen. It's still rly good tho, and waiting 1 week per episode is alot better than waiting 5 years per book. |
Well, theres pros and cons to both sides. I'm reading the first book atm and you kinda lose the stimulation you get from most books where you're visualising things yourself -- for the mostpart anyway. If you've already seen the episodes it's hard to visualise characters etc for yourself because it's already been interpreted and you've seen it and that makes it a little more dull of a read. Imo it depends what u like more, reading/discovering books or watching the show. I don't really know which one i prefer yet and if i'll for sure read 2nd book onwards before next show but i suspect i will =p
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the show will lose entertainment value if you read the books... and it also tends to make the show disappointing cos some of the details in the books are omitted in the series... or sometimes the feel you get from the book is so good and when you watch the show it's just never the same. |
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TheHuHu3   United States. Jun 18 2011 06:51. Posts 5544 | | |
One thing I don't like about the show that I loved about the books is that little nuances of inner thought that a lot of characters had. All of the chapters in the books are named aptly of the person the chapter is based on : Jon, Catelyn, Ned, etc. So each chapter is a first-person view of that person. In the books you'll read I could cut you in two right now... which is written as is, italicized, to represent that character's thought.
I'd imagine the show would have the actors show just a quick second of these inner thoughts either through body movement or maybe a frown or a scowl. Instead for the most part, it's like they are reading from the script. The show is full of good to great actors, but I wish there was some more depth in the dialogue. The only people I've seen that really have their characters down pat are Tyrion, Jaime, and Robb. |
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^ exactly why i will not read the book. that and cos i'm lazy. |
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traxamillion   United States. Jun 18 2011 15:15. Posts 10468 | | |
might as well read the books its always better imo.
and i've been waiting 5 years for the 5th book. I literally didn't think he was going to write it |
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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jun 18 2011 15:45. Posts 5290 | | |
gotta agree with huhu on books having all the thoughts going through everyones head. 'fear cuts deeper than swords' wasnt even in the tv show! |
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LsDDeaD   Bulgaria. Jun 18 2011 16:22. Posts 165 | | |
I'm getting the impression that most of the peope here are slitghtly on the book side. |
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KeanuReaver   United States. Jun 18 2011 18:17. Posts 2022 | | |
huhu nailed the biggest difference, the lack of inner thoughts. it's really noticeable with certain characters and others maybe not so much, cat is probably the most obvious example. tyrion escaping the eyrie was pretty irritating in the show as well
otherwise, i think the show is doing an excellent job. |
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TheHuHu3   United States. Jun 18 2011 20:05. Posts 5544 | | |
Holy shit. Click below if you want to know who is playing Stannis Baratheon.
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TheHuHu3   United States. Jun 18 2011 20:08. Posts 5544 | | |
Sooooooooooo excited. This guy will bring the intensity to the role . |
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Ket   United Kingdom. Jun 18 2011 20:34. Posts 8665 | | |
omg fucking leonidas.. epic
stannis is badass in the books, so good |
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HaiVan   Bulgaria. Jun 18 2011 20:36. Posts 2083 | | |
Leonidas for Boromir is a fair exchange. |
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thumbz555   United States. Jun 18 2011 21:59. Posts 3281 | | |
leonidas? no fucking way!
Just came. Gotta clean screen, brb |
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