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tsasaobao   United States. Feb 18 2011 00:40. Posts 73 | | |
Why do they NEVER fold? Although I can't complain, I ran good 
Submitted by : tsasaobao
Full Tilt Poker Game #28255800082: Table Figtree (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:56:24 ET - 2011/02/16
Seat 1: SaulGaramond ($10.46)
Seat 2: spacemonkey124 ($11.65), is sitting out
Seat 3: MarkyM1 ($10)
Seat 4: HachiRoku4u ($12.57)
Seat 5: m4rrs ($10)
Seat 6: ykz-lao ($13.06)
ykz-lao posts the small blind of $0.05
SaulGaramond posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #5
Holecards(Odds) Dealt to HachiRoku4u 
MarkyM1 folds
HachiRoku4u raises to $0.30
m4rrs raises to $1
ykz-lao has 15 seconds left to act
ykz-lao folds
spacemonkey124 stands up
SaulGaramond has 15 seconds left to act
SaulGaramond has requested TIME
SaulGaramond folds
HachiRoku4u has 15 seconds left to act
DorianGray77 sits down
DorianGray77 adds $10
HachiRoku4u raises to $2.40
m4rrs raises to $10, and is all in
HachiRoku4u calls $7.60
m4rrs shows 
HachiRoku4u shows 
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $20.15)
 
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $20.15)
  
River (Pot : $20.15)
    m4rrs shows a pair of Fives
HachiRoku4u shows two pair, Fives and Threes
HachiRoku4u wins the pot ($18.81) with two pair, Fives and Threes
Summary Total pot $20.15 | Rake $1.34
Board:    
Seat 1: SaulGaramond (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: spacemonkey124 is sitting out
Seat 3: MarkyM1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: HachiRoku4u showed and won ($18.81) with two pair, Fives and Threes
Seat 5: m4rrs (button) showed and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 6: ykz-lao (small blind) folded before the Flop
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Full Tilt Poker Game #24566479861: Table Lorinda (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:53:23 ET - 2010/10/09
Seat 1: Romynsky ($7.89)
Seat 2: HachiRoku4u ($10.71)
Seat 3: michas1989 ($14.43)
Seat 4: jeremie255 ($14.98)
Seat 5: jibanats ($17.22)
Seat 6: 69kk69 ($8.17)
jeremie255 posts the small blind of $0.05
jibanats posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #3
Holecards(Odds) Dealt to HachiRoku4u 
69kk69 folds
Romynsky folds
HachiRoku4u raises to $0.35
michas1989 folds
jeremie255 has 15 seconds left to act
jeremie255 raises to $1.30
jibanats folds
HachiRoku4u has 15 seconds left to act
HachiRoku4u raises to $2.80
jeremie255 has 15 seconds left to act
jeremie255 raises to $14.98, and is all in
HachiRoku4u calls $7.91, and is all in
jeremie255 shows 
HachiRoku4u shows 
Uncalled bet of $4.27 returned to jeremie255
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $21.52)
 
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $21.52)
  
River (Pot : $21.52)
    jeremie255 shows Ace King high
HachiRoku4u shows a pair of Fives
HachiRoku4u wins the pot ($20.09) with a pair of Fives
Summary Total pot $21.52 | Rake $1.43
Board:    
Seat 1: Romynsky didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: HachiRoku4u showed and won ($20.09) with a pair of Fives
Seat 3: michas1989 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: jeremie255 (small blind) showed and lost with Ace King high
Seat 5: jibanats (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: 69kk69 didn't bet (folded)
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Full Tilt Poker Game #28138755980: Table Vega (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:08:42 ET - 2011/02/12
Seat 1: JHStockton ($12.15)
Seat 3: jb12854 ($10.33)
Seat 4: erevan_plaza ($10.60)
Seat 5: HachiRoku4u ($14.20)
Seat 6: DocJosh7777 ($11.44)
DocJosh7777 posts the small blind of $0.05
JHStockton posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #5
Holecards(Odds) Dealt to HachiRoku4u 
jb12854 folds
erevan_plaza folds
HachiRoku4u raises to $0.30
DocJosh7777 calls $0.25
WhereverUGo adds $5
JHStockton raises to $1.20
HachiRoku4u has 15 seconds left to act
HachiRoku4u raises to $2.40
DocJosh7777 folds
JHStockton has 15 seconds left to act
JHStockton raises to $7.20
HachiRoku4u raises to $14.20, and is all in
JHStockton calls $4.95, and is all in
HachiRoku4u shows 
JHStockton shows 
Uncalled bet of $2.05 returned to HachiRoku4u
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $24.60)
 
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $24.60)
  
River (Pot : $24.60)
    HachiRoku4u shows three of a kind, Eights
JHStockton shows two pair, Kings and Eights
HachiRoku4u wins the pot ($22.96) with three of a kind, Eights
Summary Total pot $24.60 | Rake $1.64
Board:    
Seat 1: JHStockton (big blind) showed and lost with two pair, Kings and Eights
Seat 3: jb12854 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: erevan_plaza didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: HachiRoku4u (button) showed and won ($22.96) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 6: DocJosh7777 (small blind) folded before the Flop
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Full Tilt Poker Game #24565953297: Table Common (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:31:54 ET - 2010/10/09
Seat 1: airon103 ($3.50)
Seat 2: Domingos1983 ($8.61)
Seat 3: jennifermoore11 ($12.35)
Seat 4: 1Legacy1 ($3.79)
Seat 5: HachiRoku4u ($10)
Seat 6: Littl3Albert ($14.19)
1Legacy1 posts the small blind of $0.05
HachiRoku4u posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #3
Holecards(Odds) Dealt to HachiRoku4u 
airon103 has 15 seconds left to act
airon103 folds
Domingos1983 calls $0.10
jennifermoore11 folds
1Legacy1 folds
HachiRoku4u raises to $0.40
Domingos1983 raises to $1
HachiRoku4u has 15 seconds left to act
HachiRoku4u raises to $4
Domingos1983 raises to $8.61, and is all in
HachiRoku4u calls $4.61
Domingos1983 shows 
HachiRoku4u shows 
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $17.27)
 
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $17.27)
  
River (Pot : $17.27)
    Domingos1983 shows two pair, Tens and Nines
HachiRoku4u shows two pair, Nines and Threes
Domingos1983 wins the pot ($16.12) with two pair, Tens and Nines
Summary Total pot $17.27 | Rake $1.15
Board:    
Seat 1: airon103 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Domingos1983 showed and won ($16.12) with two pair, Tens and Nines
Seat 3: jennifermoore11 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: 1Legacy1 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: HachiRoku4u (big blind) showed and lost with two pair, Nines and Threes
Seat 6: Littl3Albert is sitting out
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Full Tilt Poker Game #28212172343: Table Preview (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:44:30 ET - 2011/02/14
Seat 1: prodigal777 ($18.47)
Seat 2: HachiRoku4u ($11.08)
Seat 3: Bartja ($10)
Seat 4: JoHnNyfKnGM ($12.14)
Seat 5: brokenlizard1 ($10)
Seat 6: shamelessdave ($13.44)
HachiRoku4u posts the small blind of $0.05
Bartja posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #1
Holecards(Odds) Dealt to HachiRoku4u 
JoHnNyfKnGM folds
brokenlizard1 folds
shamelessdave folds
prodigal777 folds
HachiRoku4u raises to $0.30
Bartja raises to $1.20
HachiRoku4u raises to $3.20
Bartja raises to $10, and is all in
HachiRoku4u calls $6.80
Bartja shows 
HachiRoku4u shows 
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $20.00)
 
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $20.00)
  
River (Pot : $20.00)
    Bartja shows Ace King high
HachiRoku4u shows Jack Nine high
Bartja wins the pot ($18.67) with Ace King high
Summary Total pot $20 | Rake $1.33
Board:    
Seat 1: prodigal777 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: HachiRoku4u (small blind) showed and lost with Jack Nine high
Seat 3: Bartja (big blind) showed and won ($18.67) with Ace King high
Seat 4: JoHnNyfKnGM didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: brokenlizard1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: shamelessdave didn't bet (folded)
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Full Tilt Poker Game #28177668721: Table Glory (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:09:43 ET - 2011/02/13
Seat 1: krab1ce ($10)
Seat 2: RunawayDJ ($8.66)
Seat 3: -Diogo-Rego-BR ($18.59)
Seat 4: HachiRoku4u ($12.11)
Seat 5: JSDieu ($10)
Seat 6: vettloffah ($10)
HachiRoku4u posts the small blind of $0.05
JSDieu posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #3
Holecards(Odds) Dealt to HachiRoku4u 
vettloffah has 15 seconds left to act
vettloffah folds
krab1ce raises to $0.35
RunawayDJ calls $0.35
-Diogo-Rego-BR folds
HachiRoku4u has 15 seconds left to act
HachiRoku4u raises to $1.60
JSDieu folds
krab1ce folds
krab1ce adds $0.35
RunawayDJ raises to $3.30
HachiRoku4u raises to $12.11, and is all in
RunawayDJ calls $5.36, and is all in
HachiRoku4u shows 
RunawayDJ shows 
Uncalled bet of $3.45 returned to HachiRoku4u
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $17.77)
 
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $17.77)
  
River (Pot : $17.77)
    HachiRoku4u shows a pair of Tens
RunawayDJ shows King Queen high
HachiRoku4u wins the pot ($16.59) with a pair of Tens
Summary Total pot $17.77 | Rake $1.18
Board:    
Seat 1: krab1ce folded before the Flop
Seat 2: RunawayDJ showed and lost with King Queen high
Seat 3: -Diogo-Rego-BR (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: HachiRoku4u (small blind) showed and won ($16.59) with a pair of Tens
Seat 5: JSDieu (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: vettloffah didn't bet (folded)
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Full Tilt Poker Game #28292682215: Table Papyrus (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:45:03 ET - 2011/02/17
Seat 1: Nizseman ($10)
Seat 2: PokerProTM23 ($10)
Seat 3: CurtVanVort ($10)
Seat 5: HachiRoku4u ($12.04)
Seat 6: what a nit ($6.53), is sitting out
CurtVanVort posts the small blind of $0.05
HachiRoku4u posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #2
Holecards(Odds) Dealt to HachiRoku4u 
Nizseman folds
PokerProTM23 raises to $0.30
CurtVanVort calls $0.25
HachiRoku4u raises to $1.30
PokerProTM23 has 15 seconds left to act
PokerProTM23 has requested TIME
PokerProTM23 raises to $2.80
CurtVanVort folds
CurtVanVort adds $0.30
HachiRoku4u raises to $12.04, and is all in
PokerProTM23 calls $7.20, and is all in
HachiRoku4u shows 
PokerProTM23 shows 
Uncalled bet of $2.04 returned to HachiRoku4u
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $20.30)
 
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $20.30)
  
River (Pot : $20.30)
    HachiRoku4u shows a pair of Aces
PokerProTM23 shows a pair of Kings
HachiRoku4u wins the pot ($19.30) with a pair of Aces
Summary Total pot $20.30 | Rake $1
Board:    
Seat 1: Nizseman didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: PokerProTM23 (button) showed and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 3: CurtVanVort (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: HachiRoku4u (big blind) showed and won ($19.30) with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: what a nit is sitting out
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DONKEYLUVIN   United States. Feb 18 2011 00:57. Posts 292 | | |
Wow, stop doing this to yourself, this is terrible. |
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vasoline73   United States. Feb 18 2011 01:02. Posts 810 | | |
My eyesssssssssss!!! They burn!!! dqdkaljdqpowoeibbb |
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superfashion   United States. Feb 18 2011 01:05. Posts 918 | | |
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shoving here as a bluff at 50NL is like explaning calcalus to a 6 month old cat wtf are you thinking - TalentedTom | |
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UN4   Canada. Feb 18 2011 01:06. Posts 61 | | |
Yeah, I figured that out after losing 2k. Looks like you realized sooner, good job. |
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tsasaobao   United States. Feb 18 2011 01:06. Posts 73 | | |
I was watching the 5/10 tables and saw a guy 4bet/calling with low pocket pairs. I thought I would try it too... |
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Arirang   Canada. Feb 18 2011 01:27. Posts 1673 | | |
It's obviously working out for you, you should keep doing it. |
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Gim   . Feb 18 2011 01:29. Posts 41 | | |
All of these hands look pretty standard. I don't see the point... |
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handbanana21   United States. Feb 18 2011 02:17. Posts 3037 | | |
entertaining hands
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Spicy   United States. Feb 18 2011 02:31. Posts 1027 | | |
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traxamillion   United States. Feb 18 2011 03:05. Posts 10468 | | |
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K40Cheddar   United States. Feb 18 2011 03:37. Posts 2202 | | |
| On February 18 2011 00:06 tsasaobao wrote:
I was watching the 5/10 tables and saw a guy 4bet/calling with low pocket pairs. I thought I would try it too... |
LOL at trying to play .05/.10 like 5/10. You don't understand that game. Few people do. |
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Gigabeef   United Kingdom. Feb 18 2011 03:56. Posts 111 | | |
I absolutely adore the way that you said that you are 4bet bluffing and then calling after they shove regardless :D
True balls imo. |
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CruiseR   Poland. Feb 18 2011 04:48. Posts 682 | | |
| On February 18 2011 02:56 Gigabeef wrote:
I absolutely adore the way that you said that you are 4bet bluffing and then calling after they shove regardless :D
True balls imo. |
after u put in a 4bet its very hard to fold a hand unless its super garbage, considering odds |
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Gigabeef   United Kingdom. Feb 18 2011 05:26. Posts 111 | | |
If you are just going to ship anyway you might as well not bother 4betting and just push (if you are bluffing) to maximise your f.e?
I mean like in the 1st hand... with 33, when you get in its either a flip or wtf crushed. We need 38% just to break even, and against a range of TT+, KQs, AJs+ and AQo+ we only just are around that number, and this is a pretty optimistic range for preflop shoving at 10nl most of the time. In the hands we can see above, only one not bought in full fish shoved with T7, the rest are TT+ and AK which is more realistic.
So I'm not sure if I agree totally, but if the 3bet was bigger I can see what you are saying. |
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gawdawaful   Canada. Feb 18 2011 10:14. Posts 9012 | | |
did you just decide to 4b everytime someone 3b you? |
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Senti   Poland. Feb 18 2011 10:41. Posts 57 | | |
LOL. Q8o seems funny to me now, but if you had done this to my KK I would have punched you in your face through my lcd, seriously. Going over the top of someone else's 4bet with 97o is also godly. |
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Three7MTL   Canada. Feb 18 2011 15:39. Posts 597 | | |
if it's a level, well done, if it's not... I guess you realized you can't do that at nl10, neither can you at any of the micros afaik, lol |
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rS.Wisdom[9]   United States. Feb 18 2011 16:15. Posts 1288 | | |
4 betting is for champs. however... you forgot to fold after you get caught :D |
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NewbSaibot   United States. Feb 18 2011 16:52. Posts 4947 | | |
It took you 10 tries to realize this? |
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Fudyann   Netherlands. Feb 19 2011 04:12. Posts 704 | | |
If you're going to 4b bluff to a commiting amount just ship instead what the fuck
Better 4b smaller and fold to a shove. And only do it vs people that 3b bluff. That does not include fish who overplay their hands thinking it's 3b for value. You need them to fold a lot to be profitable.
Anyway, considering the biggest leaks of your opponents are A) not putting enough pressure B) calling too much it's showing a very poor sense of exploitative strategy to want 4b bluff these guys. |
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Sanity   United States. Feb 19 2011 07:03. Posts 1076 | | |
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