On March 15 2010 01:25 Stim_Abuser wrote:
and stop being a ufc nut hugger
gsp is fighting fucking dan hardy. bj is fucking fighting frankie edgar & anderson is fucking fighting damian maia.
not really on either side here but who would you like them to fight outside the UFC that could challenge any of those 3 champs
@ lw - aoki, alvarez, kawajiri. hell grey maynard deserves a shot more.
@ ww - kos paul daley or paulo thiago. all pose more intresting threats than hardy. if youve followed hardy youd know he basically lost to gono ( easily in my opinion )
@ mw - i understand with the vitor injury that things go messed up so ill let this slide. though maias striking is so basic hes gonna get murdered. i think if he even gets guard silva will tko him. id rather him be facing chael sonnen, hendo, jacare
and its gonna be even more of a joke if brock ends up fighting mir in 3 of his first 6 fights.
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Mar 15 2010 15:59. Posts 7499
i agree that soon fedor will run out of opponents after werdum/reem. but currently hes had a good streak of top competition. at the time he fought sylvia & arlovski there were no better opponents out there at hw trust me. people wanted him vs randy. i honestly think randy would of gotten brutally obliterated. if you think he should of been facing better heavyweights at the time please name them.
and like my boy raiden said. at the time he fought rogers his resume was as good as anyones in the ufc maybe besides brock & jds. plus his top 10 win was better than that of cains & carwins at the time.
other cans he fought. he fought lindland at the time when almost everyone had lindland in their top 10 p4p rankings. sure hes a mw but he was about the same size as fedro in the fight. sure it shouldnt mean a whole lot at heavyweight but it was still a good matchup.
all rankings and everything aside i think there are only 3 legit exciting threats left for fedor in mma. brock lesnar, cain velasquez and overeem. yes i wanna see him in the ufc after he beats the reem but i got bad news. its not gonna happen. fedor doesnt care about legacy. he doesnt care about rankings. i dont think he cares about money. i think he just wants to fight and make those close to him happy. that means making m-1 happy. m-1 is not going to let fedor fight in the ufc unless they co-promote. the ufc is never going to co-promote.
i agree this sucks ass. but its fedors life. how can you blame someone for making the decisions they feel are best for them?
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Funktion   Australia. Mar 15 2010 16:24. Posts 1638
Well if it makes anyone feel any better I don't rate Carwin either. Mir vs Carwin I don't think does much if anything for Mir. In my opinion I think of Carwin and Rogers as pretty much the same as far as rankings go. I mean Carwin in his last fight was out on his feet in the first 30 seconds and looked basically terrible imo.
I don't really blame Fedor for decisions because I think he pretty much leaves it up to Finkelstein. Who is pretty much all about building up M-1 atm.
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Funktion   Australia. Mar 15 2010 16:59. Posts 1638
On March 15 2010 14:13 Jamie217 wrote:
not really on either side here but who would you like them to fight outside the UFC that could challenge any of those 3 champs
@ lw - aoki, alvarez, kawajiri. hell grey maynard deserves a shot more.
@ ww - kos paul daley or paulo thiago. all pose more intresting threats than hardy. if youve followed hardy youd know he basically lost to gono ( easily in my opinion )
@ mw - i understand with the vitor injury that things go messed up so ill let this slide. though maias striking is so basic hes gonna get murdered. i think if he even gets guard silva will tko him. id rather him be facing chael sonnen, hendo, jacare
and its gonna be even more of a joke if brock ends up fighting mir in 3 of his first 6 fights.
Everyone you listed for WW is in the UFC...and do you really think any of those 3 will challenge GSP? I'd rather stick with Hardy, it's pretty much the same almost. Just because Kos whines 24/7 that he should of had the shot instead of Hardy doesn't mean its true. Last time he spent 3 rounds on his back vs GSP. GSP is like 20 times better since then, I've seen no great improvement in Kos since then. Daley is 2-0 in the UFC over at least 2 competent opponents so your saying 2 fights and you get a title shot now? Weren't you against Lesnar? Maybe Thiago deserves it most but then he has lost to Fitch and Fitch got mauled by GSP and also looked unimpressive vs Volkmann and only average vs Swick. Anyway I look at it all 3 of those will get destroyed by GSP.
Silva is only facing Maia and not Sonnen because Sonnen is on medical suspension until whenever. Maia is also on suspension and has to be cleared (he may be already but I haven't heard). Maia beat Sonnen also so it's not like him getting the shot is out of no where. I think Hendo deserved another shot though and would of liked to of seen that fight.
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JonnyCosMo   United States. Mar 16 2010 15:36. Posts 7292
Kind of funny how Mir has hyped himself up to be MMA's saviour in his journey to take down Brock Lesnar. Almost makes me want to root for the douche bag
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Mar 16 2010 15:46. Posts 7499
On March 16 2010 14:36 JonnyCosMo wrote:
Kind of funny how Mir has hyped himself up to be MMA's saviour in his journey to take down Brock Lesnar. Almost makes me want to root for the douche bag
meh i hate him and brock equally. its pretty gay that this winner gets the title shot. honestly is there anything either of them could do that would impress you more than what cain velasquez has done at this point?
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scgamer80   United States. Mar 16 2010 21:11. Posts 2
War GSP & MIR
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PplusAD   Germany. Mar 16 2010 21:36. Posts 7182
On March 15 2010 14:45 Cro)Deadman wrote:
GSP > Hardy
Mir > Carwin
Alves > Fitch by MDK
<3
Dont know the hate on Mir by many of u guys.
Frank mir is an excellent fighter who came back from a serious motorcycle accident.
He has very good BJJ and decent stand up + lots of heart and a mission in his life ( brock lesnar)
U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)
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PplusAD   Germany. Mar 17 2010 12:29. Posts 7182
pretty nice official hype video
U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)
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DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Mar 17 2010 12:45. Posts 8623
How did Carwin get hyped? At least Hardy and Mir has personality.
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Jamie217   Canada. Mar 17 2010 12:54. Posts 4351
in that video did dana really say dan hardy's standup is perfect loooooooooool
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LikeASet   United States. Mar 17 2010 13:50. Posts 2113
Yeah White says some pretty dumb shit to hype up fights. People hate Mir because he sounds like a cocky motherfucker all the time. Dan Hardy's strat of "Yeah I will be taken down but he will eventually get caught" is so stupid. Anyone who has a strat of "I'm gonna hit him sooner or later" is an idiot and doesn't deserve to be champion, let alone a title shot.
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PaleMan   Russian Federation. Mar 18 2010 11:35. Posts 472
LOL
This totally looks like Dan Hardy imo (from ROFL thread):
Whatever floats your boat
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Jamie217   Canada. Mar 18 2010 13:11. Posts 4351
On March 17 2010 12:50 LikeASet wrote:
Yeah White says some pretty dumb shit to hype up fights. People hate Mir because he sounds like a cocky motherfucker all the time. Dan Hardy's strat of "Yeah I will be taken down but he will eventually get caught" is so stupid. Anyone who has a strat of "I'm gonna hit him sooner or later" is an idiot and doesn't deserve to be champion, let alone a title shot.
yeah its just retarded, ok dana if dan hardys standup is perfect lets throw him in K1 and see what happens
and yeah very good gameplan
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JonnyCosMo   United States. Mar 24 2010 05:27. Posts 7292
On March 17 2010 11:54 Jamie217 wrote:
in that video did dana really say dan hardy's standup is perfect loooooooooool
yea my drink came through my nose on that one...
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SfydjkLm   Belarus. Mar 24 2010 05:48. Posts 3810
On March 17 2010 11:29 PplusAD wrote:
pretty nice official hype video
couldnt watch it, what a farce, even gsps stand up is way way better then hardy's
*wink wink*
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SfydjkLm   Belarus. Mar 24 2010 05:49. Posts 3810
On March 17 2010 11:45 DustySwedeDude wrote:
How did Carwin get hyped? At least Hardy and Mir has personality.
his size lol. they were hyping him as some sort of bob sapp with skills who cuts to 265.
*wink wink*
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Baalim   Mexico. Mar 24 2010 06:22. Posts 34312
why do we have to talk about Fedor being or not being the best P2P in the world?
Well realistically there can only be 2 contenders for that title and that is Silva and Fedor, people bitch that he hasnt fought any though competition lately which is ridiculous if you compare it to Silvas fights i mean who really really though has Silva fought lately? Griffin? i mean he is like +240 againt Rogeiro now for ffs...
I dont know who do people want Fedor to fight against (besides obv Lesnar), sorry to burst your bubble but Werdrum and overeem are way superior than the whole heavy weight division in the UFC